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Iโm well educated on this
Air conditioning
Everything
A big dude with a big army burnt the city to the ground
Iโm REALLY well educated on this
Same as anything, corruption.
That's the main one
Iโd say hedonism and laziness.
The empire was fine under Marcus Antoninus.
However, An emperor named Commodus pulled up
Rome fell due to degeneration of the people physically and spiritually, and then a series of restorative movements rose up attempting to stop this each failing to truly redeem the Roman people.
Lazy, ineffective ruler
Who was unpopular
He was assassinated and the throne fell into chaos
In 193; there were 5 claimants for the throne and Septimius Severus ended up claiming it
All was gucci until 211 when he died and Geta took the throne.
His own brother killed him in his momโs arms.
He was one cruel bastard ngl
So it was the 3rd Century Crisis?
Burned down Alexandria when they dissed him
@Florida Man yeah.
Big Barbarians
Not even barbarians
After Caracalla was assassinated a string of emperors came up
And also the murder of the greatest Roman emperor at the time
Resulting in 20 years of like 17 emperors
Oh yeah Caracalla
Isnโt he Severusโs son
It was ok from 263 when Gallienus was in power
โOur siresโ age was worse than our grandsiresโ. We, their sons, are more worthless than they; so in our turn we shall give the world a progeny yet more corrupt.โ --Horace 1st century BCE
The empire somehow recovered; but weโre not done here
Diocletian ended up making a tetrarchy by 284
That was fine; worked out ok
Enter 337 CE; constantineโs death
The empire did super well under Cinstantine
Constantine
The G****rms and H****ns
It was then split under his three sons
RIP the legend Constantine
G*rms and H*ns
One was a faggot; the other quiet, and another rebellious
*H*ns
*H*n
Ew faggot
The faggot killed the rebel; and a usurper killed the faggot
That is not good
All was fine till Constantius I died in 261
So the quiet one?
Julian the Apostate pullednup
What happened to him
Yeah the quiet one reigned for a bit
Old age got to him
Alas
The yearโs like 375
Emperor Valentinian I dies of a burst blood vessel from rage
After meeting with quadi diplomats
Damn
He was mad
A bunch of mediocre emperors take ground; but otherwise itโs fine
Iโd say the real downfall was in 395 AD
Excellent emperor Theodosius I divided the empire into Two
The problem was
Honorius inherited the West side
Honorius was fucking pathetic
An empire divided cannot stand apparently.
Does Byzantium count as Roman?
He killed off his best general; Stilicho, and in 410 when rome was plundered by barbarians
Hereโs what he said
The Jews
@โงโฝ ๐น ๐ ๐ ๐ถ ๐ ๐พ ๐ ๐ โพโง surprised how long it took for somebody to say that in this server.
Me too honestly
I took initiative and stepped up
Nยกgger lol!
Heil Stalin
My phone died.
Mb
Honorius was told that Rome was lost.
Lmao Avery is officially the most based
And at that moment; Honorius was fucking livid
Why?
Because his chicken was named rome and thought he got lost
Mmm no particular reason......
When he was corrected that the City was lost he was relieved
Spineless emperor.
Bruh
The east was OK basically
Arcadius was weak; but Theodosius II came in and ruled for 50 years
In the West some bloke named Valentinian III came along
He was powerless and controlled by anyone around him
Ended up being convinced to kill his best general; Flavius Aetius
He was assassinated in 455 AD.
His successor wasnโt better and got stoned to death by a mob
From there, the west was falling terribly
A general named Majorian tried his best to recover territory and succeeded
Except in the early 460s, a despot general named Ricimer killed him.
Rome fell in 476 AD shortly after.
The east on the other hand was fine.
Leo I The Thracian and Marcian handled the Huns and barbarians well
Then came along a homie named Zeno in 476
His own brother in law convinced him that his life was in danger and nicked the throne while he was gone.
Basiliscus was killed in 477 in Cappadocia.
Zeno promised to not shed his blood so he left him and his family to die in a cistern.
Zeno ruled until his death in 491?
All was ok; an old emperor came to throne; Anastasius I Dicorus
Anastasius completely filled up the NOW Byzantine treasury
His time came by; and for his successor Justin I
Then came Justinian I
People see him as great; and yeah; sure.
He conquered territory
But he let the Nika Riots go by and drained the treasury
Not amazing, but he was a good emperor overall
His successor Justin II his nephew was a bit insane.
Died after a short reign
His successors were fine souls; coming up to a lad named Maurice
Maurice was on the danube frontier in 602 when a Centurion named Phokas overthrew him and executed him
People say phokas was miserably terrible, but Iโll explain later
Phokas had a lot to deal with since the Sassanid emperor named Khosrau declared war on the Byzantine empire, and there were Slavs in the west.
Phokas was quite unpopular, but he ended up doing OK. Sort of better than his successor
Heraclius was the next in line who had him killed in 608.
maurice from king julien
Heraclius held off the Sassanids pretty well for 30 years until trouble brewed in the Levant
Something happened in 632 AD, anyone know what?
Muslim
AllahuAkbarman died
Aka Muhammad
So; Moslems began erupting
The sassanids and byzantines went to fight them
In 636, at the mouth of the Yarmouk river
The Arabs completely smashed an army that outnumbered them
Heraclius was broken, and he died years later. Poor soul, all he worked for was destroyed
His successor did his best to hold off the Arabs and did perfectly fine.
Constans II Pogonatos became unpopular towards the end of his reign in 668.
He was killed in his own tub by his chamberlain with a bucket.
Whoops!
Lol of course you would be here troll
Coming around to uhh
700 AD
The emperors were fine off
Some bloke named Justinian II came up
Dont waste your time
Florida man is a troll
Heโs not even disrupting my flow of words
I donโt mind
He doesnt debate and only uses rhetoric if he loses
Bro
Iโm not debatin
My mistake
Iโm recapping the entire roman history
From empire to 1453
The church?
Not only.
Alas
Justinian II was a well meaning ruler
Ah
Until, 698 when a general named Leontius overthrew him and cut his nose off
Now normally, mutilation means you canโt be emperor
People would be blinded, have their balls or nose cut off
Etc
Oof
F
An anarchy continued until 712 when someone was back
Justinian II was back with a golden prosthetic on his nose and he was pissed
His second reign lasted a short time before he was executed
Credits to Leo III the Khazar for fixing the anarchy
Otherwise the Byzantines would have collapsed earlier
Most of the 8th Century onward was a bit quiet since nothing was happening due to ok emperors
Constantine V The dung named was good; despite his name which was given by hostile historians
Enter Constantine VI?
His own mom had him blinded and exiled.
He died soon after.
She was kicked off the throne by a Financial Administrator named Nikephoros I.
In 811 AD, Nikephoros was on a campaign in Bulgaria
He brutally murdered a townโs population with no mercy, and the Tzar Krum was pissed
In 811 AD by the Pliska pass, Krum ambushed Nikephorosโ forces and decimated them all
His son Staurakios died too; the future emperor
Well
Staurakios was mortally injured but he reigned for 4 months before dying
His successor Michael I was ineffective, ruling for 3 years
Everything was pretty fine; till Michael III the drunkard came in
People call him the drunkard because he was lazy and ineffective
He was actually pretty good contrary to what was branded upon him
The byzantine made a lot of territorial gains
Overall, approaching the 9th century the byzantine empire was faring off pretty well.
Basil I the Macedonian ruled until 886? AD after him.
Basil was good. Great financial administrator and conqueroror
Died in a hunting accident after getting dragged by a deer for 16 KM.
The empire was fine for many years after basil died under Constantine VII Porphyrogenitos and Romanos Lekapenos
Enter 960.
The empireโs all fine and dandy, but Romanosโ successor Romanos II is ineffective.
When he dies, a lad named Nikephoros II pinches the throne
Nikephoros was an ugly person, but one of the best military conquerors.
He was eventually killed after a 6 year reign after a conspiracy from a minister that he demoted for ineffectivity
His successor John Tzismiskes was great too, excellent conqueror until his untimely death in 976 from the plague
Then came the best Byzantine emperor
Basil II Boulgaroktonos.
Basil expanded the Empireโs territories all the way to the danube and was a brilliant financial admin. All was great at that time.
His successors were poorly chosen men who were husbands of the Empress Zoe, except for Constantine Monomachos who was fairly good
Then a bloke came along by 1060~ named Constantine X Doulas
Doukas
What about the Great Schism?
Doukas was pathetic, destroyed the army, and economy
Oh the schism?
Iโll get into that later
His successor Romanos IV diogenes suffered a horrible defeat at Manzikert in 1071 to the turks and all was in shambles since he was taken captive
His successors werenโt great either until a certain fellow named Alexios I Komnenos came along
Until 1185 the Komnenids were good and competent rulers who held the empire upright
Alexios John and Manuel were all good and well meaning.
Manuel too, except in 1176 towards the end of his reign
He suffered a defeat to the turks at Myriokephalon.
Whoops! And in the early 1180s when he died, his successor was his 14 year old son.
Johnโs cousin Andronikos I Komnenos had the youth strangled and took reign
Andronikos was cruel.
He was eventually killed after a week of public torture
Coming around the late 12th century we see the most spineless rulers
The Angelids.
Isaac II Angelos was a pathetic ruler who did almost nothing
His relative Alexios III Angelos wasnโt better at all. Cruel and lavish, he emptied the treasury on personal items and dismantled the army
The issue here was the crusaders
Alexios was expelled by the crusaders and Isaacโs son Alexios IV Angelos was put into power
Alexios IV was a pederast according to his father, who he freed from prison as they joint ruled
Isaac was blinded on orders of Alexios III bte
Btw
The Crusaders here were horrible. Ruthless pillagers who forgot the main mission to recover the holy land
Eventually, on Feb 8 1204, the two Angelids were killed by Alexios V Doukas Mourtzuphlos who tried to handle the crusaders
He was executed in 1205 by being thrown from the column of theodosius.
The Crusaders handled Constantinople for 50 years.
Meanwhile in exile, the Byzantine was the Nicean Empire
Theodore I Laskaris held power for a while, and he was pretty decent
Holding off Turks and expanding territory
His successor John III Doukas Vatatzes was even more better
A pious emperor who made territorial gains and was canonized as a saint in Christianity later
His son Theodore II Laskaris lasted 4 years; albeit he too was brilliant in his own sense. The previous two emperors were epileptic
Despite his epilepsy, John III and Theodore II managed to keep the empire going on
They handed their throne off to John IV Laskaris, Theodoreโs 8 year old son who had a regent for 3 years.
On his 11th birthday, he was blinded and exiled.
The man who ordered this was Michael VIII Palaiologos
He was brutal but an ok emperor
Not great
But he did reconquer constantinople by 1260.
His successors werenโt amazing.
Andronikos II Komnenos had a long reign but he was ineffective.
A lot of lost territory happened during his reign
In 1320, his grandson Andronikos III ended up accidentally killing his own brother
And Andronikos IIโs son, his Co Emperor John IX died of grief
Andronikos ended up disowning his grandson and a civil war happened
The latter won and he ruled for a bit.
His son, John V was pathetic
A spineless ruler who completely lost territory around the empire
He didnโt know when to give up
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