Kinda a prophet

he achieved enlightenment in this life then died and achieved nirvana

Yes

28 other people claimed to reach enlightenment

but he was the guy who kind told people about how to reach enlightenment

And the Dalai Lama is one that could reach nirvana on is death but keeps reincarnating to be a guide for others

As I know

I'm not an expert

no

he is not enlightened

Oh

he is actually quiet involved in the self

I remember something like this

But I'm wrong as it seems

the dalai lama is the leader of tibetan buddhism

So he is not enlightened?

My memory fools me

as far as i know, no

he could be

I remember that at his death he chooses a toy

yes and then a new baby is supposed to choose the same toy and if they do it is the dalai lama

Then other monks bring this toy among others to the houses of children born at his day of death

And yes

As you said

Anybody up?

@JADRO No

damn, I guess I better leave then

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Talk about aesthetics tho

I feel like people have been misinterpprating the name of Free Derry rather recently.

How so

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@Draško
Holy fuck what is wrong with them?

hehe, europe loosing culture

Europeans deserve this

@Draško Any source on this?

^

No they don't deserve this.

@Asdrubal Why do they deserve this?

Europeans are Magians

@Koninos Europe is the pit of modern society

My ass.

lol

americans legitimately think that they're more "woke" than europe

Most European countries have very interesting cultures and know how to retain them, unlike us Americans. @Asdrubal

We have no culture anymore. Put aside consumerism, which shouldn't even be considered as our culture, but well - look at where we've fallen.

what do you mean by culture? @Koninos

religion?

europe is very atheistic yet it's still a more pleasant and calm environment than urban america

new york city is literally the den of Satan

explain what a den of satan would be like @#

@Draško

youre thinking too highly of europe for some reason

i'm not thinking highly of europe, i think very low of it

maybe you could say i think too lowly of america

america is worse for sure

tranny parades and stds everywhere

just look at the shows the have in america, bill maury, 16 and pregnant, kardashians etc

https://tenor.com/view/not-the-father-maury-dance-gif-9617129

hahahah that's rich

imagine having to test a girl to see who the father of her bastard child is because both sleep around so often

CRAZY

are you muslim?

yes

oh boy

where are you from

i was born in america but i left when i was little

where are you from

serbia

are you christian?

been here my whole life

yes

why did you say oh boy?

what part of islam dont you agree with

i could go on about it for days

i doubt it

in short it's an invented religion

muhammad was a false prophet

ill go along

what message was he spreading?

everything bad about it comes from that central issue

he was spreading a message of sinfulness and heresy

and of arrogance

what part of it is sinfulness? worshipping the god of abraham? or not be a drunkard? or not to have sex outside marrige?

which part

>or not to have sex outside marrige?

thankfully muhammad allowed his soldiers to hire prostitutes during a very tiring siege

do you believe youre allowed to lie to attack islam? as a christian

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikah_mut%27ah

would you follow islam if it was the truth? @Draško

of course i would

but it isn't

ok atleast youre not saying no to that

O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm in justice, witnesses for Allah, even if it be against yourselves or parents and relatives. Whether one is rich or poor, Allah is more worthy of both. So follow not [personal] inclination, lest you not be just. And if you distort [your testimony] or refuse [to give it], then indeed Allah is ever, with what you do, Acquainted.

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be persistently standing firm in justice, witnesses for Allah, even if it be against yourselves or parents and relatives.

we shouldnt lie, nikah al mutah was allowed for a short period of time and it was a marraige not prostitution

nobody is lying

it's dodging

you said prostituion

and it's not?

you pay a woman so you marry her for a short time to have sex with her

does the ceremony negate the sin?

when youre married its not sin anymore

how is it not sin?

because youre married

you married her just for your internal pleasures

that is Sin

this is something that islam doesn't understand, because of course it's a fabricated religion

Sin isn't an act

it's a state of mind

that's sometimes expressed through acts

what do you mean sin is a state of mind

one who has commited adultery in his mind has commited it in practice

just like muhammad when he married zaynab

you deny that god put in you the love of women?

the wife of his own adopted son

there is no adoption in islam

yes, muhammad abolished the practice

so he could marry the wife of his son

zaynab

youre going on theories

ok lets talk theories then

it's all in the hadiths

if islam is fabricated then its from satan right?

if you're going to be really persuasive

Remember to keep it respectful.

i can look up the verses

i know the verses

then you'd know i'm not going off of theories

the most credible islamic historians write these down

you said its fabricated and muhammad abolished them

there was adoption in the arab world before islam

Islam is a distraction created by Satan

muhammad abolished the act so he could marry his adoptive son's wife

As are all other so called religions that are not Christianity

zaynab

that's my claim

im talking to @Draško i dont want to answer multiple people and the point gets lost

Alright

@Draško if islam is fabricated then its from satan right?

well yes

you dont believe muslims are monothiests?

but could you counter the point we're currently talking about?

i believe muslims are monotheists

that doesn't make it less wrong

there are loads of "christian" denominations that are monotheistic but outright wrong

like jehovah's witnesses

@Draško incorrect

ok do muslims have practices that glorfiy satan or order sin

Mormons are not Christian

And cannot be classified as a Christian denomination

that's why i put christians in quotations

and i said JWs

i know when mormonism came around they didn't identify as christians

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@Deleted User the god you glorify isn't actually God

it's a demon posing as God

you dont believe muslims worship the god of abraham?

i believe you think you do

but you really don't

im asking you

sure

you don't

ok so if its a demon posing as god, what part of the doctrine is against god?

Rejection of Christ's divinity

charity? being chaste? praying? not being witnesses to a lie?

which part is it

@Deleted User Rejection of the Divinity of Jesus Christ

i will answer you im talking to him

i want to see what part he thinks is from a demon

Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.). That is purer for them. Verily, Allah is All-Aware of what they do.

i told you which doctrine is against god

you didnt

Muhammad changes the doctrine constantly to satisfy himself and his army

did the ancient israelites marry multiple women?

why can regular muslims marry four women, but muhammad had between 9 and 11 wives?

dont you believe prophets before married multiple women?

some did, but this isn't presented as the epitome of morality

the prophets weren't perfect men, like muhammad supposedly is

@Draško did the prophet die a rich man?

solomon had like a thousand wives, but this isn't a good thing

you keep switching arguments here

this is the second time

no im not youre saying hes changing the doctrine to satisfy himself. this would mean hes a liar, thief, immoral untrustworthy etc

so you have to be consistent

i don't know exactly how rich he was when he died

did he die a rich man? if that was his aim

no he died with no money

@Draško The ends don't necessarily justifying the means

At times

what exactly are you responding to

he even said prophets dont put down inhertiance

Telling you what to say

@Deleted User 1000 good deeds do not erase 1 bad deed

if abdullah is uncomfortable with this being a 2v1, i think we should respect him

i will respond to you after

i'll let you take over if you really want

Middle of a class, you're good

I'll watch from here on out

no im not uncomfortable, its just that points get lost when i respond to many people

its happened before

didn't mean that in a belittling tone

go on abdul

you will not find a single instance where the prophet was after wordly things like you claim

he didnt die a rich man, and didnt pass power to his children

i claim he was demonically influenced. he doesn't have to express every single sin to be demonically influenced

how do you explain something like the satanic verses?

what part of the doctrine is against what you believe is good?

wouldnt a doctrine from satan praise selfishness and immorality?

well of course, rejection of the divinity of Christ, and a corruption of the meaning of sin

in islamic theology sin is simply a deed, there's no deeper spirituality behind it

a sin is when you go against the commandments of god

as you explaind with your opinion on muhammad and his wives

and muslims and their wives generally

you can act out any disgusting perversions with your wife

but because she is by law your wife, this makes it not sin

no you cant do anything you want with your wife

i mean sexually

yes thats what i mean

you cant do anything sexually there are limits there as well

i'm gonna go eat. still don't see how you can explain the practice of "pleasure marriage" with this

feel free to type it out and i'll answer later

god created us with certain desires, wether its food, or loving to have property, or children, or being attracted to women

the only reason i have to being married is so i dont fall into fornication. your wife would be the halal way to fulfill the desire

@Deleted User You don't think that sex is meant purely for reproduction in a marriage?

this life isnt the real life, its just a test for what happense next

Sex is not about pleasure, and never should be

no its not @Maksim

sex is about pleasure as well

I disagree

your understanding is wrong then

Pleasure is a motivation of the flesh

We should reject it

who gave you flesh

What we lose here we gain 10 fold in heaven

who put that motivation in you

God created us perfect, but Adam and Eve sinned

Giving us the want for pleasure

God did not give us the want for pleasure

Satan did

you think too highly of satan

I don’t think the use of pleasure to mitigate suffering is the appropriate approach the everyday Man should face life with, and much to my chagrin, it often is the case.