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Well if markets influence culture, that which we cannot know what is, then we cannot discuss it
too little knowledge
Free Markets mean corporations will always attempt to make as much money as possible
Not necessarily, again, workarounds can exist
A free market can exist without the free exploitation of resources
This means they will inevitably drift towards consumerism, greed, unethical marketing, etc
Can you show me a real example of one?
Which has been tested by time?
don't have to, i said they can exist.
Im talking realistically
me too <a:shruganimated:421995622346784768> , a lack of imagination or insight is not an argument
Here let me copy paste my economic policy so you understand where im coming from
i've laid out the concept
Ah shit i dont have it, hol up let me write it.
In summary, private industry is allowed to exist but if they in any way act against the intrests of the state or betray the people (price hike, artificially limiting supply, unethical marketing tactic, promoting moral degeneracy, poor working conditions, not keeping wages up with inflation and buying power, etc etc) then the CEOs are executed and the company nationalized.
No company would want to exist in that hellhole
Except you're wrong
war-time germany
I said want. Being coerced with force is not free choice
And even if they didnt, social polarization would lead to a point where it's either that or the communists completley cease all private property and industry
Who cares about what they want?
Markets.
I dont care.
The intrestss of the state and people come first.
a culture is influenced by things such as politics and economics as well as history, if your from lets say the USSR in the 1950 you have the history of being a socialist revolutionary, but if you reject socialist doctrine and you reject there economics and culture that is dialectical and historical materialism you are not really part of that culture are you
Everything that makes up a culture is subject to change
EVERYTHING
I mean the west used to be pagan, and I think it is fair at this point to say it used to be christian, all of which caused MASSIVELY different cultures
by default since a culture is subject to change
and a culture can change because people in the culture change, this means peopel alter culture and change how they think and thus people can adopt different cultures.
@Maksim
How do you respond?
@Chief Rocket Designer Yea and?
Not caring is not an argument. Besides, you just basically laid the foundation for an authoritarian system, not whatever culture is, so it has no relevancy to the actual discussion
if you accept what i say you can't be an ethno-nationalist
@Chief Rocket Designer Wrong
Say in one sentence how it has relevancy
@Maksim why ```and thus people can adopt different cultures.``` This means culture is not tied to race
@Clincoin Because since i dont care, that ends the argument about care of the markets -the market's input on the matter is irrelevant.
So you negate the entire discussion because you say you don't care. Then why pose it in the first place
@Chief Rocket Designer No, its the same culture and people that change in of themselves
waste of my time smh
Of what they want
Not caring is not an argument. Besides, you just basically laid the foundation for an authoritarian system, not whatever culture is, so it has no relevancy to the actual discussion
Say in one sentence how it has relevancy
Who said it isnt?
https://discordapp.com/channels/587015719141507090/587028275918929925/662481169551720482
This is where the discussion is at
Now prove that concept is feasible, how would it work.
@Maksim where is my logic wrong
@Chief Rocket Designer Where is your logic correct
I mean
I am making a case I view as logical
I dont view it as logical
and substanitated by basic history
Gonna need a source
I am asking where it went wrong
I gave one
Free Markets, even those limited to national borders (which then isnt a free market, but thats besides the point) will not pay regard to moral code
The change of europe from pagan triablism to statist paganism to statist christianist to statist secularism
@Maksim It's a statement, it assumes it is feasible. If people claim ownership or limitations then sure, it is doable <a:shruganimated:421995622346784768>
@Chief Rocket Designer What does that have to do with anything?
for the sake of charitability one doesn't debate like that... i'm off, peace
So I have to assume your plan is feasible? Lmao no
That is not how debates work
hello
@Maksim are you illiterate? If this change in culture happened then that means the people can change there culture they subscribe to in there life, thus culture is not ethnically inherent
@Chief Rocket Designer They changed religion not the culture itself
A culture is a collection of many things do you mean to unironically suggest that tribal european culture of around 1000 BC is at all similar to modern european culture?
Yes
How
Tales, figures, customs
@Maksim I challenge you to write a response that is > 100 words
@Chief Rocket Designer how can you be liberal and conservative at the same time
also libertarians are liberals
@Deleted User Liberal as in enlightenment Liberal
@Maksim intellectual cowardice personifed but ok
@Deleted User wait are you seriously that otto guy??
they are still liberals
From league of politics?
no
lmao why'd you leave
i am not otto
jewcord did not ban me
under the Liberalism defintion yes but then conservatives are as well
@Chief Rocket Designer I am under no obligation to write over 100 words.
libertarians are not conservatives
they are liberals
founding fathers were libtards
Yes that is why I said under that defintion of Liberalism yes, and American republicans are also Liberals under that defintion I am saying I am a combination of those positions
@Maksim I mean sure, but you are not actually responding to me your just saying stuff so if you don't want to have a serious conversation stop
they are neocons so they are liberals
paleocons are not liberals
@Chief Rocket Designer I don't have serious discussions with dishonest and lying people.
Name one lie I have told
if you can't you are lying about me being a liar
which is ironic actually
"and substanitated by basic history" - no source
"all of which caused MASSIVELY different cultures" - no source or evidence that a majority of the culture has changed
"makes up a culture is subject to change" - dishonest and irrelevant point, attempting to make an irrelevant claim that is disingenious
Alright ima go eat
I gave evidence, "The change of europe from pagan triablism to statist paganism to statist christianist to statist secularism" I mean under your defintion of culture things changed, I am not sure what else you want
```the customs, arts, social institutions, and achievements of a particular nation, people, or other social group.``` Is your defintion of culture, the nations of tribal europe no longer exist, the people of tribal europe also don't exist ethnically anymore really, the arts have ABSOLUTELY changed for example modern art is very different to roman art, social institutions changed, instead of sacrificing animals we went to christianity, and furthurmore paganism was not really allowed under christian rule, and then we went to secularism, finally customs changed because you know tribal government is very very different that modern european burecratic government
wig history
nothing is linear
nothing worth looking at, anyway
drawing a straight line between two things is a good indication that your conclusion is wrong
because nothing is linear
@sporus your right nothing is linear, I am simpily saying that we can look at time and realize how is culture has changed and is not dependent on race
*Youโre
different races made different societies
new races immigrating into new territories assimilate into the native race
or else conquer the natives
ok?
they are not assimilating into a native race they are assimilating into a native state
Culture is just selectively curated anyways
The United States themselves don't have a prevalent culture, because the country was created by many different people, with many different cultures. Throughout the ages, some cultures merged, people adopted other cultures, thus these cultures disappeared from the USA, etc. In the 21st century, there are few people who have customs, and that's because of Christianity. Thanks to progress and capitalism, America's most prevalent culture became consumerism, one could say. While a few people continue to have customs, it's not only customs that make up a culture, but ย isย made upย of the values, beliefs, underlying assumptions, attitudes, and behaviors shared by a group of people.ย Cultureย is something like the behavior which results into some generally unspoken and unwritten rules that the members of this culture follow, and which "dictate" the way they act. That's why many people say that Consumerism is the modern American Culture. But if you think about it, this modern American culture is very blur, and not like the other European, or Asian, or African cultures. In Africa, for example, the people's culture dictates how they act, behave, live, etc. In America, not at all.
So apparently there is a modern American culture, but it's too blur, and of the surface, and that's why many people deny its existence.
In my most humble opinion.
โค๏ธ
@Koninos American culture is complicated yes I don't deny that, but to suggest we don't have a culture at all is delusional just because it has not been developed over the course of thousands of years does not mean it is not a culture, we check most of the boxes of a culture
>American
>Culture
Pick one
@Deleted User what
Why can people here not make an arguement that is longer than 100 words
Because America has no defined culture and is just a cluster of several cultures mashed together
Different regions have different cultures
@Chief Rocket Designer It's not complicated. It's blur and of the surface, with no depth, thus no complications. Too simple and too small when related to other cultures. And it has been developed. From the European cultures that had been once carried from Europe to our country, now, only Consumerism and a few customs remain, most of which are thanks to Christianity.
Also arguments need to be to-the-point, not necessarily paragraphs of more than 100 words.
@Koninos I was refering to this
```>American
>Culture
Pick one```
This is not an arguement
anyways
I again did not say that america had the most developed culture, but I fail to see how we lack one
what points are we missing
Yes, I know. There are many edgy and retarded people in here, you'll have to get used to it if you are to stay in the server.
In reality, we don't lack a culture. But many say we do, mainly because they follow a culture of depth, instead of ours, which is of the surface. We don't have a defined one though. Certain regions have different cultures.
Sure but that is the same for all cultures
all cultures can be infinitly reduced to the individual
I mean northern germany is different from bavaria
and bavaria has town cultures
and town cultures has various other things
etc
same with the USA
Yes, that's true. But if you take Eastern European nations as an example, or Asian and African ones, you will see that culture plays an extremely major role in one's life.
As for Germany it is at the same cultural level with the USA, if we are to accept this term.
I mean people take parts of culture seriously
Yes, depending on the culture.
And depending on the people.
sure but my point was that people can adopt any culture they want by the mere fact people can voluntarily affect and change the culture they live in radically or in small ways, and thus culture is not tied to race.
Yup, that's absolutely true.
all my responses from people have been one word big brain answers like no u
lmao
#dead chat
For now.
@Koninos Don't talk about being edgy because you are likely the edgiest person here
Your humor consists of shock value shit
@Deleted User You're the one who thinks that Hitler's world would be good, not me. You're the one with the edgiest beliefs between the two of us, yet can't speak for the entirety of the server, since it's full with edgy extremists.
Iโm talking about the consistency of your humor. World beliefs aside you just try to be edgy because it tickles your lack of intricate humor.
bruh
Hitlers world view is not good
The truth is everyone hates the subject, I donโt care if Iโm edgy, I just want to know the truth. And the truth is that every single claim of "edgy belief" is just a postmodern form of ridicule, shaming, gossiping and rallying.
^
Fascism is based.
Is fascism truth to you?
yes
Lol
Hitler sure was a funny guy.
Agreed. The ultimate pursuit of the truth is something that will forever be ridiculed, as Satan would disdain the world had it been showered in truth and purity.
The true and ultimate sin is the ignorance of the truth.
was killing the Jews the right thing Mongolite?
Yes
Lol, and you are a christian?
The Jews had betrayed Germany during WW1, and even funded several wars before that beginning from the Napoleonic era.
m8 like a 4th of the SS officers were jewish.
you've just been listening to the shills on /pol/
you know hitler had jewish blood right?
@Chief Rocket Designer Yes. And before you recall any Jewish trick you may have heard, in KJV it says that Jews are but ambassadors of satan.
thats not what it says.
@Deleted User so King David is an ambassator of satan?
Revelation 3:9
its says they are fake jews
^
idiot (mongolite)
@Chief Rocket Designer When I say the server's full of idiotic extremists, I mean it.
they pretend to be jewish but are actually satanists
^
literally illiterate
If you wanna offload all the blame onto the jews then you have no sense of nuance
@Deleted User so was King David and his line an ambassator of satan?
Idiot answer me
Lets be honest, Itโs just race. In homogenous polities it is class. In heterogenous polities it is race. The experiment is over. Democracy lost. National Socialism (fascism) won.
Thatโs the wrong version
Fuck
KJV is the only real version
Don't dodge
@Deleted User so was King David and his line an ambassator of satan?
stop being an intellectual coward
basically the same thing
and answer me
m8 that doesn;t say anything about the actual jews being satanic
I am not educated upon King David enough to understand it.
^
LMFAO
Bruh
โSynagogue of satanโ
Sure
are you an idiot
@Deleted User read the next 5 words
You disdain me for admitting a truth of myself
you are being intentionally obtuse are you not?
If i do not comprehend something enough i will not pretend as if i do.
@Deleted User King David was the king of Israel choses by God
fucking idiot
read your damn bible you illitereate fool
Ngl Mormons are cool
You are being egotistical
Fine i am
because your a fool
In any case, the topic of it was that Jews are of satan, and no more.
Mormons are kinda crazy but I'm down with polygamy
Fuckin hell
@Deleted User these jesus was of satan under your logic
since he was a Jew, by the line of David who was chosen by God
Upon when Jews were denied the covenant they wished to destroy Christians, and nothing mote.
Then Jesus was denied the coveneant
I am speaking of Religious Jews, not ethnic.
mongolite is either mentally ill and projecting or mentally ill and trolling.
Bruh
We are talking about ethnic
I am speaking of Religion
Polygamy is dysgenic.
lmfao
I care not of Genealogy, for that is a sin.
The fact is you should know who King David is dumbass
```989 Bible results for โDavid.โ```
Fuckin Hell
I know who King David is but iโm not educated enough to say much on it.
Get to your point anyways.
you don't think ethnic jews should be exterminated right?
Not based upon ethnicity, but based upon Zionism and Religion.
the satanists pretend to follow many religions.
Ok I mean we can address the other points but I wanted to make sure we are not claiming that on ethnic grounds
now why do you think they should be exterminated on religous grounds
Revelation 2:9
โI know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.โ
Fuck off RSV version
KJV for life
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