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Russia is likely the last front for Europe in my opinion
bruh
@Spergerger than why are you arguing me on this point?
I don't give a fuck xD
?deport @Deleted User
**@Deleted User** has been thrown into the gulag.
@Maksim first of all you used the 2nd not first defintion of culture which is
```the arts and other manifestations of human intellectual achievement regarded collective``` This can be adopted by anyone so nice give away there, 2nd
```the customs, arts, social institutions, and achievements of a particular nation, people, or other social group.``` The USA has had, and still has customs, and arts that are specific to the USA, we also have social institutions as well as a common history
@Wally u seem not to understand the significance of Jewry relative to its size
@Chief Rocket Designer You're wrong
It isn't relevant.
Prove me wrong then
you can't just declare it
fucking stupid lithuanian @Wally
your not god
no matter what you say
It doesn't change ether fact that slaves were exchanged through European countries and the United States.
It's stupid to focus on that to begin with lol
can you move your convo somewhere else
slavery was good for black people @Wally
Bruh
your an idiot
XD
Suuuure~
Keep telling yourself that lol
Then you should let black people take over europe in a white genocide right? Since slavery is good for the slaves- Idiots logic
That is very backwards logic.
Whatโs going on in here.
@Maksim are you done now?
@Spergerger is claiming that slavery was good for black people.
letting white people do that is good
when blacks do it its gay and retards us @Wally
we civilised them
idiot
XD
We shouldโve just left them to kill eachother in the barren Bantustans, to be honest.
*civilized*
<:absoluteretardation:591182455885660178>
slaves we bought wouldve been better off in africa?
were they were likely already slaves, and were more likely to be castrated?
@Spergerger yes
whoa, they were more likely to be castrated! so it was good we enslaved them
the smugness of liberal idiots is palatable
Slavery was Jewish
you're such a chad @Spergerger
Being slaves in a foreign country is better than being a slave in your home country huh?
yes? @Nugatory Cognizance
i think i understand why you have your user now
I take it Maksim has left the convo
I' not a liberal genius lol
70%+ of American slave owners were Jewish
<:luv:591451841045463041>
DA JEWS
I just think that everything you as an authright, are saying on this is stupid xD
blacks have demonstrably better outcomes today thanks to slavery
this is just facts
I would like a study on that
And this is based on....???
''i would like a study on the fact that US and european blacks are better off than african blacks''
really?
absolute retards
"Its common sense bruh"
@Spergerger one had literal colonialism for 100 additional years
@Chief Rocket Designer your retarded for not having blind faith in his statement.
@Spergerger that's ad hominem by the way.
Libertarians always engage in ad hominem, lmao.
Nice AdHom
He simply asked you for source and you call him a retard.
ok so?
colonialism helped blacks for the most part anyway
and that doesnt change the fact that US blacks are better off than african blacks
literally not an argument
@Deleted User this statement itself is an ad hominem. You are still not addressing any part of the argument.
he is literally asking me to prove that africa is poorer and worse off than america
he does not believe this
I donโt care about your argument, Iโm observing the pace.
bruh
I did not say that
@Spergerger no, he is asking you to prove your point and now you are strawmanning the discussion because you cannot.
Intellectual Cowards
do u seriously believe that blacks living in africa have better life opportunities and wealth than US blacks? @Wally @Chief Rocket Designer
No you illiterate idiot
Are you saying those are the only deciding factors on how much a person values life?
Success in an economy.
i didnt say it was a heavenly experience lol
i said it was demonstrably better for them in terms of material outcomes
I am heading out I am not going to debate intellectual cowards
Material outcomes aside, how can you prove this?
I am still lost on the topic of this argument, so Sperg is stating that Africans are better off in the EU and US, than compared to Africa?
which u then asked me to provide evidence for better standard of life than africa in the US
i cant bro too fuckin dumb
He is stating that slaves benefitted from the slave trade.
yes they did
They did. They never would've come to the US if they weren't enslaved
Their descendents fid
@Spergerger Colonialism didnt though
HOLY SHIT
HAHAHA IM RICH
it did for the most part @Asdrubal
IM RICH
@Asdrubal colonialism gave blacks cars
IRAN WAR TIME
@Sentient23 Shit, heโs gone?
not perfect
needed tweaking from mosley etc
yep
Goddamn it.
but alas we never saw that world
@Deleted User modernization and industrialization arent benefits
Neither should they be praised
ig we fucking up iran now for the glory of israel?
Dude imma be rich
@Asdrubal industrialisation is a benefit
US oil fund is gonna skyrocket
@Deleted User its not
@Asdrubal i run primitivists over in my colonial steam engine nibba
Industrialization is a benefit for an individuals life?
futurism gang we got shootas out here
@Asdrubal my gun would beat your club
Industrialization ruined the father-son relationship
@Asdrubal arent you a communist
why are u happy of becoming rich
asdrubal is a lovely man but he is bluepilled on colonialism
Well, time to get my selective service billet ready.
what a shame
In lieu of the Shadow Commanderโs death.
we should move back to chat now tbh
debates fizzled out
@Sentient23 anti capitalist =/= communist
bro you have the communist role
Transhumanists > technocrats.
No
Technocracy good
Transhumanism is gay
No
Teanshumanism bad
Transhumanism for the win :p
Alright, I' not even being serious anymore outside of that xD
most people are to an extent transhumanists
but these singularity nibbas make my skin crawl and should be killed tbh
I'm taking this to the other chat xD
Transhumanism is disgusting
Imagine not making do with what you have as an individual!
wearing a coat is a form of transhumanism
i like wearing coats
what
?ban @Nugatory Cognizance
that 2 inch pp won't do
aw
who wants to pleasure women? @Nugatory Cognizance
thats gay nibba
ok homosexual
just pump and dump
hold them in place with smothering patriarchy @Nugatory Cognizance
?warn @Spergerger Keep to channel topic
<:dynoSuccess:314691591484866560> ***Spergerger#9917 has been warned., Keep to channel topic***
?warn @Nugatory Cognizance Keep to channel topic
<:dynoSuccess:314691591484866560> ***Nugatory Cognizance#5586 has been warned., Keep to channel topic***
is that what you wrote in your fanfiction?
he brought it up @Maksim
Think i care?
rape happens, deal with it @Nugatory Cognizance
lmao who mentioned rape
cry more
it's like you have some ideas already imbedded in your head
like what if i was a fellow rape enthusiast?
what if i was raping you and you were not enjoying it? @Nugatory Cognizance
hahaha, we both know i'd be on top
silly boy
and i had a gun in ur mouth
that's perfect
pull the trigger
What the bloody hell is this.
i'm just seeing how spastic this dude is tbh
a serious discussion
allegedly
@Nugatory Cognizance ur gay
and cringe
and me
im epic
i'm not gay
and based
and repilled
but cringe i see
let me shitpost with you
you will be one day @Nugatory Cognizance
What is the topic may i ask?
No shitposting in <#587028275918929925>.
Move it to <#587015719141507102>.
By what definitions?
@Clincoin capitalism is a threat to culture
Depends on what culture you speak of <a:shruganimated:421995622346784768>
Replaces trad buildings with concrete monstrosities
yes
F WORD black culture
It replaces all cultures with copy pasted mcculture
I thought no shitposting in <#587028275918929925> was a thing...
im not shitposting im genuinely racist
Arguments, not statements
arguments are statements
statements are not arguments
Yes?
all statements are argument
s
@Clincoin he's just agreeing with me
What definition of argument are u operating under?
```im not shitposting im genuinely racist
``` Bruh
and arguments do in my book have to bear meaning or intent
What i said bears meaning and intent
not related to the question at hand
yes it is related to the question at hand since you sadi "depends on what culture"
oh wait
lmao
youre that guy who didnt ban the dude that posted gore on ur server
And that then banned me because i destroyed you with the argument from motion
lmao
nice stinking fish attack, evidence precedes claims
claims contain evidence...
it's also a red herring and an ad hominem. I do not take those as higher forms of communication. If you truly believe you "destroyed" someone i hope you used more valid arguments
Whats up with these r/iamverysmart lads who keep on misusing fallacies?
Fallacy Fallacy
Adhomining means insulting instead of addressing arguments
i addressed your argument
and i never insulted you
Claiming a fallacy against someone does not make their argument invalid
It is an insult to claim i got destroyed with an argument from motion.
under what definition of insult are you operating
fairly certain that if your claim was true, that you have interacted with me before, then you also know what you experienced as potential thumbscrews. I keep insults under the definition of untrue claims about another, used intentionally to offend the target
Your non-evidence based claims are insulting to me
How do you know i used it to offend you?
Mind reading is disingenuous
If you claim that i didn't ban a person that posted gore in my server, simply say their name and i'll give you the ban list <a:shruganimated:421995622346784768>
Holy shit you fucking 2 mongols, start from a clean slate.
Now
he's cringe i remember i debated him before
I dont care
clean slate
It's not the first time he has done this, i want him to provide evidence or realize he needs to stop this
So @Maksim What definitions of capitalism and nationalism did you use for your question?
Are you kidding me? Why would you expect me to still cling on evidence from more than 5 months ago of you not banning a dude that posted a picture of dead germans in ww2 to claim superiority as an american over germany
Then drop it.
And how do you expect me to have evidence that you banned me because i destroyed you, why would i screenshot my argument with you prior to getting banned? When i got banned i couldn't have collected evidence since i was banned
No
@Clincoin Capitalism being free-markets and consumerism.
Nationalism being the preservation and valuation of one's culture and moral code.
What type of free market, do you mean absolute free markets or with anti-monopoly action?
Also, what do you define as culture under nationalism? morals i get, but culture is very vague.
Either.
Culture is an irrational concept, one simply knows it can it usually cannot be quantified. One knows if he is in or out of it.
Why can't it be quantified
I just explained
well do it again
No
just ctrl-v
You can have free markets without allowing international markets to have influence in theory, so i'd say they can with workarounds definetely be compatible
But if you have free markets with outside influences then surely no
I'd figure either evaluated capitalism or mixed economics.
Classic Fascist
yes.
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