>lmao

According to whom

Read channel name

The common law of history

?

History has proven right to conquest

A nation has a right to invade, and a nation has a right to defend

So I guess it’s ok to burn people at the stick cuz that’s what people in the past did?

Depends on the crime

Excuse me wat?

You want to burn people

Depends on the crime

On the stick

Depends on the crime

Why?

For crimes such as murder or child rape, burning at the stake is an option

Why tho?

But I prefer torture until death of pain

Why not just shoot em?

What’s there to gain from torturing them,

?

Making them feel the pain they caused by raping a child or murdering someone

Well then why not rape them in turn?

And not only of the victim's pain, but of their family member's pain of losing a loved one for example

Because raping them would be equalivant

They must be punished 10 fold

Ok

Why that number?

Being skinned alive hurts more than being raped I'd assume

Random number I pulled, it's the point I'm driving across the the specifics

we should have torture farms for pedophiles and rapists
torture them for decades

Decades is eh

Ok back to the Orginal topic

make them carry out endless backbreaking labour
use them as slaves

A week and then just drown them in their own blood

You against legal immigration as well or just illegal one?

@Gromp Against both, but for legal it depends where from

we should enslave criminals tbh

make them repay their debt

I would ban immigration from everywhere except Europe

@Spergerger nono

Why?

Gladiator

Gladiatorial fights should return @Spergerger

Unironically

would be fun to watch tbh

with no animal cruelty doe

Imagine the crowds it'd pull

Yea ik

only reprobates fighting each other

Death row inmates pitched against each other

@Gromp Preservation of culture and identity

What’s so valuable about current ones?

And a belief in fundamental European supremacy

@Gromp wdym

Brb

5 min

What’s so valuable about American or European values

They seem pretty shit to me

american values gay

only european values

@Gromp
American values I disagree with. They are inheritly flawed. Americans culture dosent particularly exist either, an American is simply someone from Europe living in the U.S.

European values are of Christianity, nationalism (not American Nationalism, but the actual definition of a nation - a cultural group) and social Traditionalism.

So what’s so valuable bout them? Also nearly all Latinos and many African Americans are Christians so ya’ve got that covered

They have fundamentally different cultures. As for what is valuable about them - it boils down to fundamental belief, as is with most ideas.

Boo hoo

Cry me a river

Whites are gonna be a minority

?warn @Asdrubal read channel name

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So what are those fundamental beliefs?

@Gromp Belief in european traditional culture, the concept of nations and nation-states, and christianity

I'll be back I'ma eat

why are they valuable?

because they are true ig

????

@Gromp Do you know what fundamental is

They are fundamental beliefs

Just because something is deeply rooted doesn’t make it right

Mean the belief in the flat earth was pretty fundamental in medieval Europe

Doesn’t make it right

That isnt a valid argument nor is it my point

It has proven over thousands of years it works, thus it is good

What is "right" to you may not be in line with what is right to me

So has slavery

Or feudalism

You wanna bring that back as well,

Feudalism wasnt bad

?

Slavery only has stigma due to American slavery

Well mean going from history hunter gatherer lifestyle was the one which lasted the longest

Anprim gang

You are strawmanning

I’m not

You can’t just cherry pick when it comes to history

"A straw man is a logical fallacy which occurs when a debater intentionally misrepresents their opponent's argument"

You literally just misrepresented my argument

And yes I can, that is history.

You’re saying values have inherent value if they stick around long nuff

I can pick a specific time period and say that is better than other time periods

By that logic hunter gatherer should be the optimal way to handle society

No, I am not

That is not my argument

What is it then?

That the values i mentioned are fundamental - and i don't mean "deeply rooted" by history - but deeply rooted in culture and that historically is proven to have worked. I can absolutely say that one time had better beliefs in my view than another time period, this is not cherry picking.

Just because something is deeply rooted doesn’t mean it’s valuable or efficient, the Chinese Empry lasted for 2 millennia

Look where they are now

The people were tired of them so they disposed of them

It worked.

For 2000 yearsd

Longer than most systems

Not forever tho, when the Qing got overthrown they were stuck in the past

Humiliated by other powers

Simply because they didnt industrialize

Yea because they saw it as a threat to their power

And?

And it was as seen with the Kuomintang

What's your point here

The values they held were fundamentally opposed to industrialization

Hence they engineered their own downfall

What values did they hold that were fundamentally opposed to industrialization?

Social Traditionalism is not in conflict with industrialization.

It is tho, you can’t have space travel whilst believing the earth is flat

Believing the earth is flat has nothing to do with social traditionalism, and you are over exasperating and bringing in irrelevant points with the earth is flat thing.

I’m bringing up an example, fundamental Christian beliefs of the Middle Ages are an example of that.
As with the Qing the industrialization also brought in values like democracy and parliamentarianism which they opposed

Believing the earth was flat was *not* a fundamental Christian belief.

It was? They believed that for millennia

You take the meaning of fundamental and apply it to something that isnt fundamental, fundmental is something that must be there

Like belief Christ is the son of God

That is fundmanetal

Because changing that would change everything

It was? The earth not being flat changed everything because it proves the heliocentric worldview and that the earth is not the center of the universe

That is not fundamental to Christian belief

It was a scientific dispute, not a theological dispute

Galileo was an adamant Christian, if it was fundamental he would've left the faith.

He didnt.

1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.”
Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ...”
Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ...”
Psalm 104:5: “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.”
Isaiah 45:18: “...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast..

The first one, has a very differnt meaning when in RSV

Translation has a big part of how you interpret it.

The 2nd one has nothing to do with flat eath

Neither does the 3rd one

Neither does the 4th

It calls the earth immovable

It’s referring to it as a forced object

No physically, not once does it refer to earth immovable as physically immovable

It is talking about God's reign over earth

that it will never be moved

That earth was created, and it will never *not* be earth

Christians held that belief however, it comes from Ptolemy which was deeply ingrained in European culture

So was their brilliant understanding of medicine

Christians held that belief does not mean it was inherently a Christian belief.

This was a scientific endeavor, not a theological one.

It was scientific belief, not a Christian belief.

Anyways i must go, @Gromp feel free to respond and ill respond once im back.

Nice Chat.

Spook discussion I see

yeh as far as im aware the belief in the flat earth was never part of christian doctrine and those bible quotes as maksim explained, do not say the earth is flat or that heliocentrism is wrong, the belief in the flat earth was fringe within christianity

from what i know flat earth and geocentrism is based in ancient astrology and mysticism

Flat earth thing was a dumb protestant thing

Catholics and Orthodox knew the earth was actually round

yeh it was classic prot stuff tbh
''um i dont understand this greek stuff so im just going to form my own interpretation''

@Spergerger But didn’t the Flat Earth myth primarily derive from a mathematical dispute occurring between Columbus and the royal government?

Specifically, the dispute was focused on the distance that it would take to get from Southern Europe to India.

no

@Zoltanous Depends on what you mean when you say "Protestant"

@Enkrum No

not even close

nearly all scholars and aristocrats knew the earth was round since Pythagoras from 500 BC

@Maksim Galileo was not really christian

thats like calling Hitler a christian

Galileo was very deep in occultism (which is forbidden in Christianity)

k

Yeah Galileo was put under house arrest for being a freak

@Fed#4895 bruh

@Fed#4895

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Labour death squads now

They’d probably end up feeling so guilty they’d shoot themselves.

"Why has the oppressed proletariat not come to its senses and joined you in your fight for world liberation? [...] [Because] they know that your antiquated styles of protest – your marches, hand held signs, and gatherings – are now powerless to effect real change because they have become such a predictable part of the status quo. They know that your post-Marxist jargon is off-putting because it really is a language of mere academic dispute, not a weapon capable of undermining systems of control..."

There should be a channel for polls that anyone can make

there should also be a more comprehensive and long role list

LETS FUCKING GO BROS

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/584089481410510860/654114994384011265/15760235617397323535959830323660.jpg

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Virginia-There-s-Battle-Lines-Being-Drawn/5-2278351/

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Virginia-Representative-Worried-About-Civil-War/5-2278460/

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/One-of-the-better-speeches-from-Bedford-County-Virginia-last-night/5-2278543/

BOOGALOO

Oy vey

@Asdrubal @The Desert Fox V Get Codreanu and the Iron Guard on the ethereal phone, we’re going on the wide fields today.

DUDE

FAIRFAX ALREADY FORMED A MILITIA

@Enkrum

Hohohoho.

Get your guns and radio ready boys

Dont forget to spread the word lol

You got a live coverage of their formation? @Asdrubal

VA thread on pol

Plus gun forms

We might not have much time, but let me stress this

Get access to ham radio and some kind of firearm

https://radiofreeq.wordpress.com/2016/02/09/patriot-radio-channels/

Whiskey warrior proved how easily they will knock out communications

@Asdrubal something feels off, horseshittery is coming.

We’re in for some climatic boogaloo

8000 man march/rally on Richmond lol

I get the uncertainty

But this is the closest thing we are gonna get to a full on boogaloo

@Punished Nada Sounds like he’s so chocked up in his guilt that he’s completely circumventing every argument Nick is establishing so that he can try to retain as clean of a public image as possible to the mainstream view.

Videos like that are good

They push people towards us

People think it's just strawmanning (which it is) and so get angry at the left.

People will investigate stuff that they're told is bad but doesn't seem bad as well.

The more the Jewish media slander you the better of the job you are doing

^

As Hitler said in Mein Kampf "If you do not read about what you have done the previous day being slandered by the Jewish media then you did not do good the previous day"

Just remember "one day we'll close their dirty mouths"-Joseph Goebbels

I'm paraphrasing slightly

"Why has the oppressed proletariat not come to its senses and joined you in your fight for world liberation? [...] [Because] they know that your antiquated styles of protest – your marches, hand held signs, and gatherings – are now powerless to effect real change because they have become such a predictable part of the status quo. They know that your post-Marxist jargon is off-putting because it really is a language of mere academic dispute, not a weapon capable of undermining systems of control..."

Based

@Asdrubal who said that?

Obama

Honestly, communism in the west is a fucking joke. If any commie party was a real threat they'd be cracked down on hard.

Nadia C.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/nadia-c-from-crimethinc-your-politics-are-boring-as-fuck

@The Desert Fox V

I get you guys dont like Anarchism

But it's still based af

@Asdrubal An equally based answer would be to tell the author to “fuck off.”

Give it a read

It's not the typical "destroy the state" BS

anarchists r dumb

^

Anarchists like penis too much

Muh freemdom

https://time.com/5747261/person-of-the-year-2019-reader-poll-results/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/greta-thunberg-named-time-magazines-2019-person-year/story%3fid=67639965
The memes are right, ironically. She lost the POTY poll.

Wtf what bout Keanu

Meanwhile in Virginia

@VICTOR117 What do you think, will an armed standoff actually occur.

I wish VA was that based

Although the KKK does meet in a field one county over.

Same place a local pentacostal church does their easter morning services.

lol looks like azov
the adidas gives away slavic identity