Pedophiles should be shot

They should

Shooting is too quick. Can we hang them?

Shooting is efficient

You'd be surprised how many there are

my dudes, make them work ard labor in inhuman conditions

keep them alive by force

when their sentence is up have them dig their own grave and then shoot them

Labour camps

I like you

I agree with you

Get all the epic gamers and game end all pedos

SJWs believe that the act of being a man is sexist

i mean they now say the APA does as well...

they are both wrong

@everyone **Debate Topic**

🔘 What is your opinion on slavery? American Slavery versus Traditional Slavery where slaves has protected rights

Bad

only good as a punishment

What about the slavery where slaves had protected rights

both are bad

The issue is what is the slavery for, is it simply ownership or punishment

American Slavery was good

Roman slavery for example

Slaves had rights

Why the hell was American slavery good?

slaves in rome were simply I think the lowest class of individuals no?

Slaves? An outdated term. We now call them Prison Labourers and Chinese Children

It benefited my ancestors @Deleted User

I'm American

generally I find that forced labor, for crimes for example is absolutely justified

So don't use that against me

Traditional slavery is better

it is paying repreation to the society, and it is penance and it will also be better at actually making sure people stay outa crime

Slavery bad

I agree with Bogatyr

I destroyed all arguments against slavery

still my issue is that is a form of punishment but isnt that kind of punishment akin to slavery? more I guess roman style

For*

Even those criminals should have protected rights

essentially so that they will be able to eat, and survive after their sentence ends

Yes

We won't even need prisons at that point

Fuck prisons

Replace prisons with community service for minor offenses and (traditional) slavery for major crimes

of course

I dont see much wrong with that

They should be kept under watch however

Privatised slavery is dumb

no shit

Duh

We should nationalize slavery

No one's argued for private slavery dumbass

2 years cumposlery community service after high school

Uh no

2 years military service after 18

I believe that we should have 2 years of military or community service after high school

@Deleted User maybe for a country like Ukraine but the United States has no need for that

@Deleted User Yes it does

every country needs that

end of story

Obesity will plummet I gurantee you

I can only see it useful for building character

That too

2 years military will turn any fat ass into a Chad

Maybe 2 years military and 1 year community

Sounds reasonable

I believe either 2 years military or 2 years community

2 years military would be better

Privilege 2 years military though

Israel has low obesity they do the same thing

I'd divide citizenship into 3 tiers

Don't

Caste system = inefficient

We’re debating fucking slavery?

yeah

Workers
Military
STEM
Clerics
Leader

It's actually productive-

So is hanging yourself

And murder

But yknow, dignity

@Mew we're not talking about Americanized slavery

I was referring to the debate

not actual slavery

Ok

We came up with a solution for prisons

Roman slavery is more of it

Where slaves had protected rights

You has to feed them good and give them proper housing

You could not kill them

Was it a choice?

What do you think slavery is boy

Exactly

We suggest slavery to replace prisons

Replace prisons with community service for minor offenses and (traditional) slavery for major crimes

Personally, forcing people to do shit for no reason is bad

That’s more of a valid point

But it’s not for “no reason”

We have a reason

@Mew You're forced to pay taxes so what

They're going through repentance to society

Usually it’s cuz their a prisoner of war, thug or debt slave

^

Criminals mainly

You don't enslave innocent people

What do you think “that’s a valid point” means

Who owns the server

Calm your tits

@Tankard why

I believe Annon does

Huh?

Anon unfortunately

but I'm not sure

Oh

Make inn info > innfo

inn announcements > innouncements

Just kidding

Thoughts on ethnostates?

White ethnostates

No ethnostates

Basically certain European countries are white ethnistates

yeah

maybe

My polish friend told me his story of seeing a black man for the first time

Lol

...

wow

Anyway

I don’t see a real pint to ethnostates

point*

iPad is hard

agreed

It makes me think of those royal families that tell their children to breed with each other to keep the gene pool clean

ethnostates keep their gene pool clean from other ethnicities and that’s about it

yeah

What is your opinion on monarchies?

Modern monarchies?

Or monarchies is general?

just monarchies in general

I'm a Monarchist

Brb gotta order a guitar case

Penal slavery gang

i mean ethnostates are teh most stable states

hell even switzerland is basically 3-4 states

ethnostates are tbh the natural state, however in the past it was a natural consequence of the fact that its god damn hard to migrate

the issue of ethnostates only has arisen because of ease of migration in modernity

I was about to drop a bomb but the last message was cool

I don't have a personal problem with slavery. The issue is typically a conflation between chattel slavery, voluntary slavery, and penal slavery, and their various applications. Chattel slavery where the slave has no rights or say in ever having become a slave is pretty much universally immoral. I think voluntary slavery made sense back in the day. Whether it be by indentured servitude, being an in-home servant to a Lord, or what have you. Or military service nowadays. Penal slavery has pretty much always been a thing. Still happening now. People don't seem to mind it that much.

Also that military idea, i agree with that I however think 6 months could be enough however 2 years + continued education wouldnt be a bad way to go

for example incorporating the service to say your choice of study or apprenticeship

so its not wasted time and strenghtens the mind as well

Ahh, apprentice slavery was another things back in the days.

That's why it was, quite literally, *master* and apprentice.

You were your master's slave in the hopes of learning the job and becoming a tradesman yourself in the long-term payoff.

I mean depends, the apprentice wasnt exactly a slave however his qualifications were dependant on the masters will to pass him

as often that reflected on the master, if he was teaching at all

meanwhile he got fed, had citizens rights, etc. You could say they were perpetual students stuck in a system that prevented them from ever graduating regardless of skill

Maybe

But apprenticeships could work

But in the modern Capitalist system no

Because they would abuse the fuck out of it

And just say "sorry u didn't meet my qualifications"

@Deleted User I think that Monarchies can vary in success. A limited monarchy would be the best form, one where the monarch still has significant power but a constitution and a parliament of sorts exists.

ye

If your people are nationalists and patriots, it’d work better. But countries like that don’t really exist anymore

They fell after WW1 where nationalism and imperialism basically started the war, and people began to see that of everyone whips out their dicks and the measuring tapes, bad shit happens

I mean nationalism resisted the imperialism of other countries, WW2 again happened because of imperialism and nationalism again resisted. The issue it seems of those two wars is nationalism lost both times before the war got started

hell hitler had nationalist natsoc's telling him dont do it

@everyone Debate Topic

🔘 What is your opinion on tarrifs? How should we tarrifs goods and countries? Should certain goods be exempt to taxed at a higher rate?

^

Suck your mum

They're good

Protect items made in our country

establish ultimate economic aggression

tariff anything that is a threat

big bucks

besides the kek memes

its a good thing

necessary

lmao

I would say that it's an excellent way to exert force and economic pressure to influence other nations in your countries' interest. If one's country can handle short term pain that is.

@everyone Debate Topic

🔘 How Authoritarian/Libertarian do you want a government to be? Which is better?

🅱ibertarian preferably

Absolute authority, no questions asked. Anyone who questions the state must be shot, active rebels must be hanged publicly to send a message

i am being unironic

except we are the rebels tho

Epic．

@Nerthulas are u a lolbert

Authority is the only way to establish order

With liberty and "muh freedom" people become degenerate

I know this first hand

Authority must be strict and punish anyone who strays even a little severly

bruh

I'm not a lolbert lol

I'm just saying we are in the position of rebels/dissidents rn

the state is not ultimately the most important thing, but the spirit and initiative of the people

the state is an instrument

which can be wielded by a noble leader for good

We must take control of the government

And establish absolute rule

Any dissidents will be shot

In order to have any sort of liberty or freedom you need order, tradition, and a virtuous people

Otherwise you don't have anything holding the country together

I believe that there must be strict authority, yes, but I believe in the right to free speech and the right to own a gun, just not to the point where the free speech is being able to subvert American and White Tradition that we see today.

I think that pedos and other sex offenders should be seriously punished.

I think that murderers should be killed.

Its something very close to what Hitler said in Mein Kampf. He wanted every German man to bear arms and to defend themselves.

And, I would like to add on to Shalopy's statement. I agree with him. Liberty, the way school children are taught, is not liberating. It may be liberating to your lust for comfort and self-leisure, but it is not liberating for your body, your people, and your country. One of the best things about Facism is that you are proud of your nation and your people, therefore, you would do anything to help the nation and its people, like instead of taking a nap on the couch, you would go and help water the plants for an old lady on your block.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEp3LlaxU9c An actual fascist, not a retarded edgelord talks about what fascism is.

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Shit tier memes

Oh wait, Wikitor is a nazbol, based and redpilled.

not memes

i was just saving them to download them on my phone and add them to my servers

anon add these emotes

l8r

dont fucking post them in <#587028275918929925>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tlFwTmTWMw Learn about your past, learn about your tradition, learn about your culture. Fight cultural Marxism with folk culture.

I'm not a doomsdayer like a lot of the left is, but I do feel like environmentalism is fundamentally a conservative topic (conserving the environment that helped foster and sustain your culture) and the right's (or at least the mainstream right's) trigger response to reject climate concern because the leftwing has adopted a misanthropic form of it is idiotic and shortsighted.

It's a big reason why I hate the American Republican party and when retards say *oh you're right wing you must be a republican lmao*

I agree ^

The right basically went the opposite way because they realized they agree on something and this is where mainstream conservative fail and expose themselves. They hate the topic of eco friendliness because its full of lefties, however the reason they do so is because it exposes how truly lefty they are themselves but dont want to admit to it, because they know trad and propagationalism are true and just, but they dont live up to it.

but yeah the left goes eco commie about it going vegan etc. and basically lowering the bar for humanities existence in theri eternal quet to be free form literally everything and anything, including morality

@Classy Also Id add to the poll "climate change is real regardless of what humans do"

But yeah generally a better reason to be eco, worry about climate, is because of local pollution

clean streets, trad streets, good streets

@Bogatyr Bogumir I added it, thanks.

👍

@Classy polarization is a big problem

It’s reached the point where politics isn’t a matter of “what do we believe in” but rather “what does my opposition believe in.”

@L0GAN It's true, and this is the fundamental issue with party politics. It's like LGBTQIAAP+-whatever-the-fuck: the more you single out a certain group of people for their ideas it necessitates having more groups for more types of people, these groups will start being defined by their differences primarily. Democrats are the "progressive" party, the "blue" party, and that definition overrides any individual ideological views within that party.

Like

The parties aren’t even left and right anymore

It’s just who claims a side on an issue first

Either you need hundreds of individual parties to pick up everyone's ideology or you need zero parties. The alternative is having this heavily dichotomized political system like in the US.

My mother, who has been here for over four decades, saw that I was conservative and immediately and without any forethought meant that it was synonymous with Republican—she couldn't even conceptualize the idea of being conservative and NOT being Republican.

So whatever slight lean you might have instantly gets you swept up in the inferno of what the party that leans that direction believes.

*Oh, you lean left?* (pulls out card with talking points) *So you believe in abortion, feminism, gay rights, pro-union, you hate Christians and you want to open the borders, like the Democrat party, right?*

the issue is also that people do in fact think that way

i am left/ right

therefore i accept and fervently believe these things

there is a minority like us here that actualyl have self defined boundaries and align with a aprty based on overlap

rather than simple association

Yeah, and nobody even sees the flatness of the political "spectrum" in the mainstream US. It's more like a political string, where you are either dialed to on extreme -X or another +X. There is no Y axis at all, just normie "conservative" points and normie progressive ones.

I mean eventhe previous 2 axis model IMO is pretty damn inancurate

hell modern conservatives and liberals are really both the same

they are truly "left" in a more formal sense

its basically the left arguing with itself

as they both support enlightenment principles and are derived from them

ultimately they believe the same things but carry them to theri logical conclusion or assume thelogical conclusion to be, for the current day, too extreme however thats just conservative retardation

true conservatism should be in fact entrist

on the social scale

i call something propagationalism when it takes tradition and propagates it, adapting it to mdern material reality