@Flameoguy why

@Flameóguy#9736 why r u so cringe

@Flameóguy#9736

?unmute @Riley

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yayo

anyone wanna vc

No

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we can have epic chats!

@Deleted User what is your argument for god

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anon i saw you typing

i want 2 know the justification for god

lol

I am Christian

I can give you mine if you'd like

@Deleted User ok

If you don't believe in god then your only role should be like other creatures to mate and eat and survive that's it so why do we have morals if there is no god

morals do not exist

@Deleted User

How so

How so

We have morals

Well I don't

Why not

Most non sadists have morals

Edgy

No I'm seriously a sadist

😨

kinky

Addie what the fuck dude

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@Riley prove god is real

bet u cant

Kate bush is epic

@Deleted User

"If you don't believe in god then your only role should be like other creatures to mate and eat and survive that's it so why do we have morals if there is no god"

That suggests a shallow understanding of evolution

Survival is a joint effort which requires social interaction, and because social interaction exists, a desire for social acceptance and self-fulfillment come along with this

@Deleted User OK 13 year old

@Shiba Inu Dis guy right

Social interaction and participation has made us and other social/eusocial animals the most successful on earth.

@DrRisen idc

Uh

Evolution isn't real so...

True

@lachlan 🥀

Lenin+

Leninist bastard

Anti-logic bastard

Me?

How so?

It’s 2019 and people still believe in science

You and the commie

My god

Me and a commie what?

And *the* commie

Who's the commie?

H+?

The Leninist.

Ahhh

Who is leninist

H+ is

What’s that

He talking about h+

Both you and H.

How is my logic flawed?

Because it relies on the rejection of it.

Dude what logic are you talking about

@DrRisen "Evolution isn't real"

Idealist "feels not realz" nonsense.

Absolutely no clue what page your on?

Ok, explain the logical steps you go through to reach the conclusion that evolution as a theory is false?

He didn't

He's relying on Biblical text, starting at the answer then working his way back to the question.

Shush. Give him a chance.

If survival of the fittest is to be believed then why do chimps or gorillas still exist

Might as well have an open mind.

Nah, I'm tired of tradlarpers and wignats in these circles

@Deleted User Because their way of survival is also viable.

When the other evolutionary "links" don't

Star or u die

I starred

I started anon

Starred

I love how fascist have this "debate me, debate me, debate me" subculture but when they feel challenged they just run

Blight just stop

@Shiba Inu star u anti Ukrainian faggot

That has nothing to do with the debate

Wake up and people are still right wing

Damn that’s crazy

Well, rather they block your argument and plug their ears.

Yes

and it does

@Shiba Inu star now

How so

We're talking about religion

Not politics

You threatened to block me for calling something you said ridiculous, and I pointed out a common trend

I was talking about science.

But ok.

It's about evolution now since you said it's not real

also
>taking debates on discord seriously

There are other anti evolution arguments

Nibba this platform is a shitshow.

Everyone is here to insult you and vice versa

Like people say that wales used to be land animals and that there "hips" are left over from evolution

That's a massive oversimplification

Anyways, as I was sayin I think you misunderstand how evolution works. The chimps are not our ancestors. They are our cousins. @Deleted User Clear?

When in reality they use those bones to mate

That's not really the basis for the theory

Whales share a number of similarities with mammals, being mammals themselves

They are the odd ones out in the ocean in a lot of ways

Yeah

They're very different from other aquatic life

I'm not denying them being mammals

Even down to their movement

they don't swim like other aquatic life do either

I know

Dinosaurs are fakes

Other fishes tales go side to side

@lachlan 🥀 Your dad is fake.

Yea he is outside drinking whiskey and smoking right now

While wales go up and down

Like I said, totally fake.

Well your dad is terribly unhealthy

So basically fake

^

dude whales have foot bones

lol

evolution is real

I mean he’s as good as gone anyways, so basically fake.

Yep

@el pebble Shut up commie. Big kids are talking.

how can anyone defend the idea that evolution is fake

Yep

I can

I said shut up commie.

I have ben

Because of those differences, and because whales share more in common with land mammals than other aquatic life, the theory is presented that maybe their ancestors were land mammals that lived in aquatic environments and hunted in the water, and over time developed characteristics to help them adapt to the water, as opposed to them somehow coming from fish which makes no sense considering the countless differences

Someone buy me aperol

And Prosecco

And I will continue to do so

They *do* share more in common with land mammals than they do with fish

It's a fact

There's nothing wrong with the theory, it's just "they live in water, so how can you say they came from the land"

Just seems to be the only counter argument

No

theres no counter argument to evolution

?mute @el pebble 1h

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That wasn't the point I was making

I told you to shut up commie.

Thanks risen

He was getting annoying and I'm only a squire so I can't ban

No problem. I want the smartest possible people arguing for evolution. H+ is *not* the smartest possible people.

Why was h+ muted

He's a commie

He didn’t obey orders.

H+ is very smart man

He's a commie

He is like a Jewish professor but not a scam artist

You should unmute him

Karl Marx an educated Jew

#FreePebble

Anyways, I made my point and I don't see any real counter argument, and I'm looking at it as objectively as possible

There's a counter argument

There are 100s of possible counter arguments actually

Feel free to make one

@lachlan 🥀 His mute expires in an hour.

Too much

5 mins max

I made one @Shiba Inu

I responded to it

I meant I dont see a counter argument to my response

And

What response?

@lachlan 🥀 He has a right to appeal to the parliament if he so chooses.

Ok cut the autism larp just free the boy

What parliament

Ours moron. Didn’t you read the constitution?

Isn't anon an absolute ruler?

@Deleted User Check <#588218459872165888> for the constitution.

You said one of your problems with evolution was the idea that whales were believed to have once been land mammals, I explained why there's nothing wrong with it since whales share more in common with land mammals than they do with other aquatic life, they have to surface, their movement in the water isn't in line with typical aquatic life, and their bone/organ structure is also very similar to that of land mammals

Ok

Just because they are similar doesn't mean they are required to be from the same biome does it?

It suggests that they shared a common ancestor or branched off at some point, yes

I mean Indian elephants/Africa elephants

Whales have more in common with land mammals than they do with fish

I know they are same family

So it's just a coincidence that whales are mammals?

Yep

Pretty much

And most aquatic life isn't?

Yep

And their bone and organ structure being nearly identical is also a coincidence?

Uhh can I have a whale skeleton beside a cow skeleton please?

You might be right I'm just checking

What are your thoughts on the legitimacy of the fossil record? @Deleted User

I'm specifically referring to the structure of their fins, because it's the most obvious example

Versus the legs and arms of mammals

They have similar parts

For a long time platypus weren't considered mammals but they are

So?

Fossil record?

You mean making an entire animal from half a jawbone?

You don’t know what the fossil record is???

Free pebble

Put the mute on me and free him in my place

No

What did he do? @lachlan 🥀

He's a commie

Nothing

Look at the fin

He got what he deserved

Lmao sperm

minus no legs

Haahahahahahhahahahahhahaahha

Haahaahhhahahahhahahaa

How does this not resemble a land mammal?

Yeah similar

I,dyin

draw legs on it

Nigga said sperm

Hahahahahahahaha

it looks like a predator you would find on land

Doesn't automatically mean the same

It’s evidence.

Towards a theory

Yes, of which virtually everything is.

Science isn't based around automatically assuming it's the same, and scientific theories aren't crafted in the same way we would generically use the word "theory"

I can't prove intelligent design it's a theory

I'm just looking for you to accept you can't prove evolution

Also, "proof" doesn't really exist in science

There's no such things as proof in science

Then we're both wrong and have no idea how we were created

I don't think you know what that means though

So we can move on now right?

It means that science is based around evidence that builds up and *strongly* supports a theory, not that "This is right, it can never be wrong." That's all it means

Yes

I know

https://ucmp.berkeley.edu/fosrec/Scott1.html

@Deleted User This is sort of a “theories and evolution for dummies” page. You should read it.

But i believe in this particular theory is wrong

I'm not reading shit from UC Berkeley

Why not?

Most retarded school possible

Well aren’t you smart enough to sort the truths from the lies?

Yeah

Then why are you refusing to read it?