they take away your social and economic freedoms

yes

and you actually trust them?

It's better to let your citizens starve than to intervene

10/10

I trust governments I like.

I trust no government

I currently don't like any governments though

All authority should be questioned.

If I can take care of myself, I do

Well that's you.

You don't have a family you have to feed living off of $1 a day.

and I go to my community, not my government, for support

yOU rEALLY hAVE tHAT mUCH fAITH iN yOUR cOMMUNItY?

fuck off @Dyno

I somewhat understood your views until you brought the community bullshit up

Your views aren't consistent

The government should be a natural extension of the people.

Call me a fascist, but that's what it should be.

I do, there is a difference between people being genuinely kind and a bureaucracy

Who said anything about a bureaucracy?

Democracy is essential.

Nah

Yah

democracy is retarded

always leads to minority suppression

if you are in the minority, your voice will never be heard

and letting people lead themselves blindly is just stupid

not to mention, if everything goes to Hell, you can never find who to blame for the atrocities committed

Nah

yeah

The people know what they want

they do

they don't know how to get it

and never have

Yes, you should definitely follow the one person that shares no opinions with anyone else.

you share an opinion with nobody else

nobody is exactly the same politically

and pure democracy is probably the worst form of government

I know

Nah

because the will of the people can change on a whim

The people know what they want.

and people are generally stupid

again, they may know what they want but that doesn't mean they know how to get it

They should elect local representatives to represent them locally. Those local representatives should elect regional representatives. Those regional representatives should elect national representatives who make decisions for the whole nation.

Exactly.

The government can't be 100 million people yelling blindly.

but it can be 100 people yelling blindly

which makes the government no better

Yes, but that's much better than 100 million.

Yes it does

how?

What do you propose? A fucking dumbass king no one even likes?

No, a mix of a republican form of government along with a system in which someone who has been trained to rule from birth ceases the throne

government needs balance between the two

you cannot have pure absolutism or pure democracy

a true balance of powers is key

Nah

The people know what they want

I can't support this, and I don't think we'll find common ground to argue on

that's so stupid, what do you mean the people know what they want? Most of the time they don't have any idea of what they support and have no idea what they want. Of course there is no common ground when your entire argument is just "the people know what they want" which is just completely untrue.

I don't want to continue this debate

Yes

I didn't want to start it

A rich king who hasn't worked a day in his life definitely knows what would be the best for the people.

I know. I made a mistake in starting an argument like this lol

We don't have to continue this. I don't see it going anywhere.

These are normally fun. lol

ok

Democracy is retarded tho

Nah

@Deleted User ok retard

>today at 2:56am

@Deleted User Thats kind of my concentric republic model lol.

but yeah concentric regions with elected representatives is a good model particularly if empeachement is and can be made at any time granted 65% or something vote for, causing elections to happen immediately otherwise these people can rule until deat h

So im making an activist server for artists, writers movie makers etc. Or activists in general
https://forms.gle/MwpMU9tCUtSzPA887

and I need some votes on the logo and name

@Bogatyr Bogumir Apollo's wolves is a good name

@Deleted User Currently i have 4 responses so fr Legionem Sacris is winning

and i need to see which symbol is

option 1 and 2 as awell

oof

https://youtu.be/XhvbCs7PDZM

HOLY FUCK

this is back

HOLY FUCK

HOLY FUCK

what

@Deleted User u okay?

what the fuck is that titan

@Deleted User yeah I've just waited for this moment for a long ass time

what moment

i am confusion

This server being back

Also give me Ukrainian role lol

didnt make one

fuck

brb as i make one

F

K

smh

^

Slava Ukraina

gheroim slava

?whois @Deleted User

<#588488489658482699>

ugh

@Deleted User you dmytro?

do we have dyno yet

Idk

no i thought you were for a sec

Bruh

Nah I was friends with him

I don't remember you

But he was the one who sent me a beautiful video

Give me american role

ew

is tha

t

Cause I am based cheeseburger

https://youtu.be/8Dlt0ImZ0TA

roblox

Yes don't ask

disgusting

?kick

ugh

@Deleted User I don't know you either

Lol

It's a game

based mutt

No need to lose your mind over it

Don't kick jake

He cool

its a childrens game, and the fact you are in an army group in it and even set your discord profile to it shows you are no older than 12

Lol hes 15

Who

Cares

and since we abide by discord ToS, we must not let anyone under 13 on the server

The fact that you are fantasizing over it shows your age

I am not much older than 12 and can be fairly mature

im 15

I'm 13

eh idrc

on thin ice, buddy

Who?

Who?

I made TRC when i just turned 13

so

idc

both of you

well

Why?

if we know we have children here

Why?

now im 15

and don't do anything

we could get in trouble

Yeah but we're not breaking tos

13+

Plus you're also 15

yeah but 15

not 12

I am not 12 though

Did I say I was 12?

I stated clearly I am 13

lie

Think again

oOf

you are 12

Who?

u

I said not much older than

Proof?

he's saying he is 13 not to get banned

bet

exactly

@Deleted User I have known Jake for a while he is 15 I'm I'm a vc with him rn

He does NOT sound anything like 12

then hes a retard lmao

I will literally get in a voice chat

^

Oh nice

im not home

Insult me

Like that proves your point

@BowlPatrol im going to make that into an emoji after i edit it

Shows how much of a troglodyte you are

ooo nice big words

very smart

Jake calm down

He's just being skeptical

Ffs

what is a troglodyte

fancy words

@Deleted User

these are already emoji size

@(Ian) Charlemagne join vc

im waiting

He will, he said he has to brb

(I'm I'm a vc with him rn)

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<:lmao:588490785029226548>

nah

idek if the levelling system works

that kid sounded black

dyno is down

idk

wait nvm

?help

@BowlPatrolhe ain't black lol

it won't respond to me though

he ain't white

@Dyno is offline

he's German Norwegian descent...

ugh

oy vey

he appeared online for a sec

@BowlPatrol

prob under maintaince

that's not what a white american sounds like

it was offline all day yesterday wasn't it

anywhere

he's not from europe

He's american

yeah

and he doesn't sound white

White American though

no

he

is

a

56

Percenter

There

My arm

WHATT TEH FUCK IS THAT

AHAHAH

That skeptixal

YOU HAND IS HUGE

@Deleted User

IS THAT A ALIEN

thats not my hand

wtf

not you