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Abolition of industrial work>
Admirable, but tragedy of the commons is a bit of an issue
Which is understandable but communism is absolutely unstable
Syndicalists do have a bit of a point, I'd contend
Union-run, some some officials, but...
Well, democracy has its issues
In my opinion, at least
leftism is apart of status quo
Leftism isn't
Liberalism, sure
A fine, but important distinction
Nah it is
Thatโs mostly why i am a Fascist. It advocates against Communism while maintaining a strong economy. Assuming that the Government is shit at economy.
It's been commoditized and everything already
What's your economic position, mongol?
What do you mean?
Who should own the means of production?
Ohhh boy
@Deleted User Yes, I am fellow fascist.
Good to see another clerical.
Do you read Codreanu.
>Unitary state
Ew
Means of production should be dually controlled by the Government and worker. Workers/Entrepreneurs should be empowered to make successful businesses and innovate technology. While the Government should pay workers for industrial jobs in which they make military equipment, roads, etcetera.
I, too, love being incredibly susceptible to the deaths of individuals and any widespread disaster
>state
Ew
As
People naturally make states
In a way i think both the state and the worker should be in control.
If you're having entrepreneurs create businesses, it's not worker controlled
Give the Entrepreneurs enough power to where they can innovate and excel
@Light constant insurrection, state will exist on paper but it's not enforced
Constant war and revolution sounds lovely
Also, rebel organizations are already "states"
I don't see African rebels effectively governing anything
Iโm saying that we should somewhat suppress entrepreneurs so they canโt make disgusting things like porn norโ control the workers. In that way they have control over the system.
By owning businesses, they inherently control the workers
@Deleted User Never heard of Codreanu. Enlighten me, please.
Capital is social power
Capital is economic power
Capital is, simply, power
@Light Yet they should be supressed
Romanian fascist, ended up upsetting both the Romanian monarchy and communism via a method of clerical fascism through the Iron Guard party.
Businesses must be allowed to exist for the purpose of technological innovation.
Without doing something about their ownership of capital, you can't quite do that
This was him.
Innovation isn't just the result of business/capitalism
It mostly is.
In the pharmaceutical and medical field, for example, most advancement is the result of government funding
Look at japan breh
It's the result of industrialization
It's really just funding, to be honest
>shoots a policeman at his trial
>ends up being found not guilty
They have massive technological advancement due to businesses
<:lmao:588490785029226548>
LMFAO
Did he really?
Based
Yes
C h a d
Iโm gonna have to read on him
Use a source other than Wikipedia.
Itโs got โraging Jewโ all over it.
I think its commonly agreed that the police are one of the worker's true enemies
Will do.
I need to buy more books but i know iโd never actually read them
Fugg :DDDD
Wikipediaโs good for things such as the sciences but is absolutely abysmal at politics relating to WWII in terms of clinical/neutralized tone.
Read: Not supporting your worldview
>Implying science is even ok
I outright reject all science except physics, mostly due to physics being separated from all opinions.
Based
How is chemistry subject to opinions?
How is biology subject to opinions?
Mongolite is like one of the coolest people here wtf
@Light Chemistry makes meth
Meth bad
Lmao
Nah but not all sciences are bad, but a lot of them are inflated with political shit from liberals
Not really, honestly
A lot of science is based upon fringe views on life, and are not easily proven by scientific method.
Some are just developing fields, or more fragile
Scientific method cannot prove all things. Thatโs why i respect people like Einstein because he understood this.
Howso?
Physicists are truly the most chad scientists
Theoretical stuff, I suppose
But even then, in theory, it could still be proven
@Light I mean, you can more or less distinguish who writes what between the two categories of my aforementioned topics. The former is typically written by a science student or graduate who incorporates 10+ footnotes in a single paragraph supporting the facts of which, the latter sounds more like the raging boner of some soy who somehow manages to make an even longer article have less citations.
Thereโs a very clear distinction in quality.
"aforementioned topics" being "hard" and "soft" sciences, I presume?
My view on it is that the conclusion part of the scientific method can be altered with opinion
Soft sciences are still valid
They're just more fledgling fields, and significantly easier for laymen to interpret
No, I was referencing to my previous claim.
Well before this discussion on the sciences.
Ah, wikipedia stuff
As iโve said, John Money, the creator of Gender abused two biological boys because he believed on could be turned into a female through social changes. He considered it a success, yet both boys ended up committing suicide.
I mean, a handful of sources make sense in some cases
David Reimerโs story was absolutely awful.
He suffered.
Scientific method is not always the solution to problems
Especially if you're looking at individual stuff
John Money... what?
@Deleted User May he rest in peace. Lord knows he deserved none of what was brought to him...
John Money has been criticized in recent times
Quite a bit
He also wasn't the "creator"
Rightfully so
of said fields of study
Also, John Money's "study" wherein some boy was forced to transition...
He was the creator of Gender. But he is also a pedophile and child abuser.
Failed
John Money is, in summation, a pedophile and a prominent peddler of the โgender spectrum.โ The study of which ultimately blasted back into his face after Reimer decided to turn back.
As a consequence, it arguably *proves* that gender identity is innate
I feel so fucking bad for Reimer
It only goes to show that men like him deserve to be shot/hung/burnt alive
There are a lot of ways to kill a man, but he deserves them all
And, as people are trans, I'd continue, *proves* that people aren't always born to the correct gender
Brings me solace that horrid men will be brought to their appropriate layer of hell
Not really, the spectrum is on par with the absurdity of creationism, which is peddled and promoted less by scientists and actual geneticists, than by social โscientistsโ who hardly earned the distinction of their baccalaureates.
Thatโs because actual geneticists will be refused by the media
There is no genetic evidence to suggest that there is more than one sex
It depends on what you define as "gender"
In the common language, gender being sex
Gender is a fallacy in the first place. I refuse to use the term.
Well, besides intersex people - sure, two sexes
nobody's going to disagree with you
Intersex people are just malfunctions from the birthing process
What do you want to use instead, then?
So they canโt really be registered
To discuss expression of characteristics associated with sexes
In social and physical senses
The word sex is appropriate in all of the terms
So, sex expression?
Is that good?
You either are or you arenโt. To be or not to be.
One may pretend to be female, but he is never truly.
The entire โgender spectrumโ play is derived from a combination of mental gymnastics and pseudoscience.
It is a lie that he has told himself a thousand times over, just to ensure that he wonโt doubt himself,
Not really
People express themselves in different ways
People have different notions of "self"
That doesnโt make them not male or female
You cannot escape your true self, no matter how much you pretend to be someone else.
You cannot change your sex through any mechanics. End of story,
In terms of sex, sure
But we're not talking about sex, Mongol
Neither in gender.
"Gender" refers to identity, to self-identification, to expression, to perception
Gender is a product of capitalism to sell us shit and fight communism
^
Gender was made by bathroom companies to sell more bathrooms
Somewhat based
I need to sleep. Goodnight.
Gender existed before capitalism but okay
Also, let's not even get started on how the sexual spectrum exists
BECAUSE IT DOESNโT EXIST HAHA
(It does)
As countless studies have proven
Everyone's a tidbit bi
Some moreso than others
Not really, thatโs just a bunch of flamboyant personalities or โquirksโ claiming to be unique by attempting to subscribe to some niche psychology that has neither received scientific verification nor recognition.
Literally just used to sell us shit
Enkrum, gender is defined by society
Inherently, sure, it's just personality, it's just self-expression in some manner
But as society has determined the gender of certain clothes, activites, etc.
It's thus part of gender expression
- which largely, if not entirely, derives from and correlated to biological sex.
Thatโs about on par with neglecting the genetic aspect composing a 60% influence in socioeconomic factors.
Do you consider someone wearing lipstick, a dress, with a lovely manicure done, going shopping as masculine as someone with... I don't know, a battleaxe aloft over their head, wearing nothing but the furs of animals they've personally hunted and wrestled, @Deleted User ?
(The answer is no)
You're recognizing gender expression in that moment
You're recognizing gender
Generally, expression and identity correlate, unless an individual is suppressing themselves, in which case, there might be a departure
But, in a Hagelian way, we seek to make others view us as we view ourselves
"gender" is just a term to solidify "gender expression" and "gender identity", it makes no comments on sex
We've got other terms to do that
Arising from latin, of course
trans-*, and cis-*
like 99% of people (or thereabouts, I don't know the number), are cis
But, there's those few instances
Mind you, few instances adds up to "millions of people"
Since we're discussing in terms of hundreds of millions to billions of people
Anecdotal evidence to support your argument doesnโt particularly help when there is evidenced, underlying preferences utilized by both sexes that ultimately contributed to our preconceived notions of what a man prefers versus that of a woman.
If youโre attempting to quote or derive from the philosophy of Virginia Prince, who utilized virtually no scientific citations, nor was even engaged in the sciences, in her novels on attempting to challenge those established notions, then, as stated before, ultimately perpetuating the same absurdity as that of a creationist.
I'm sorry, what?
That didn't address anything I discussed
We see concepts of "gender" throughout history, across societies...
It varies a tidbit, mind you
I'm not arguing that the idea of "gender" isn't in part from certain characteristics of the corresponding sex, if that's what you presume I'm saying (albeit, even when there is a correspondence, it's often exaggerated to an unrealistic degree)
But my evidence isn't at all anecdotal
My clarityโs slipping out and itโs turning late; potentially I misread or whatnot.
Fair enough
Are you familiar with the Reimer incident.
I am - and I'd argue it proves my point
wow
that website is not reputable
at all
Iโll clear that up.
And get a new variant.
Ahhhh, here is the ASU page: https://embryo.asu.edu/pages/david-reimer-and-john-money-gender-reassignment-controversy-johnjoan-case
I did not see the sidelines of that one, kek.
Reading the wiki story, it seems like a bit of a stretch to actually draw tons of conclusions based upon gender identity from this...
There are likely other citations which derive, but this in particular was a landmark case.
Unfortunately, Reimer blew his head off.
So we cannot get a direct account from him anymore.
True
But...
There's various... compounding factors
He apparently had a slurry of financial issues, a failing marriage, and some other property issue in his last days.
Namely sexual abuse, divorce, financial issues, and...
well, the list goes on
Suicide of his brother, too...
It's not simply "gender"
Also, case studies 'n' all
The twin brother also had schizophrenia, so...
We can discuss this in the morning.
I need to head to bed, I got something important to attend around 10.
Alright - ttyl
California is trash
It should sink into the Atlantic tbh
So like
Is @Flat Earth Subgenius serious, or...
<:dynoSuccess:314691591484866560> ***Flat Earth SubGenius#3090 has been warned., advertising***
?deport @Deleted User
**@Deleted User** has been thrown into the gulag.
Vc
I got sick yesterday (feels like the flu) and like an idiot stayed up until 3.... I didnโt get much sleep. I wonder if Iโll be able to make it and watch the ball drop or if Iโll be ZZZzzing by then
@Deleted User Could you link me the Path of Gods discord?
@Ater Votum Starve yourself for about a day or two. Viruses need food just as much, so if you starve yourself you are effectively starving the virus.
@everyone
if you play the new zealand shooting video at exacting 11:57pm on new years eve and get to start the year off seeing a muslim getting killed ๐
in minecraft
as a joke
@Deleted User don't think viruses work like tapeworms
They really do
Cause what viruses do is take over cells in the first place, so if you starve those cells of nutriment theyโll die
how far do yuo go with killing yuor own cells
@Ater Votum you kill yourself
No cells anymore
No viruses
No
until yuore skinny twink mode maybe
Wdym this is a foolproof anti-viral strategy
Actually if we literally destroy the planet all problems facing humanity will cease to exist
Mine is better
@Ater Votum I suggest not eating for 2 days and then start eating
Go in intervals
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