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2019-12-31 05:04:07 UTC

Abolition of industrial work>

2019-12-31 05:04:11 UTC

Admirable, but tragedy of the commons is a bit of an issue

2019-12-31 05:04:12 UTC

Which is understandable but communism is absolutely unstable

2019-12-31 05:04:27 UTC

Syndicalists do have a bit of a point, I'd contend

2019-12-31 05:04:35 UTC

Union-run, some some officials, but...

2019-12-31 05:04:43 UTC

Well, democracy has its issues

2019-12-31 05:04:51 UTC

In my opinion, at least

2019-12-31 05:04:53 UTC

leftism is apart of status quo

2019-12-31 05:04:59 UTC

Leftism isn't

2019-12-31 05:05:01 UTC

Liberalism, sure

2019-12-31 05:05:12 UTC

A fine, but important distinction

2019-12-31 05:05:23 UTC

Nah it is

2019-12-31 05:05:31 UTC

Thatโ€™s mostly why i am a Fascist. It advocates against Communism while maintaining a strong economy. Assuming that the Government is shit at economy.

2019-12-31 05:05:42 UTC

It's been commoditized and everything already

2019-12-31 05:05:48 UTC

What's your economic position, mongol?

2019-12-31 05:05:59 UTC

What do you mean?

2019-12-31 05:06:09 UTC

Who should own the means of production?

2019-12-31 05:06:31 UTC

Ohhh boy

2019-12-31 05:06:39 UTC

@Deleted User Yes, I am fellow fascist.

2019-12-31 05:06:47 UTC

Good to see another clerical.

2019-12-31 05:06:55 UTC

Do you read Codreanu.

2019-12-31 05:07:12 UTC

>Unitary state

2019-12-31 05:07:13 UTC

Ew

2019-12-31 05:07:36 UTC

Means of production should be dually controlled by the Government and worker. Workers/Entrepreneurs should be empowered to make successful businesses and innovate technology. While the Government should pay workers for industrial jobs in which they make military equipment, roads, etcetera.

2019-12-31 05:07:45 UTC

I, too, love being incredibly susceptible to the deaths of individuals and any widespread disaster

2019-12-31 05:07:50 UTC

>state
Ew

2019-12-31 05:08:01 UTC

As

2019-12-31 05:08:05 UTC

People naturally make states

2019-12-31 05:08:10 UTC

In a way i think both the state and the worker should be in control.

2019-12-31 05:08:28 UTC

If you're having entrepreneurs create businesses, it's not worker controlled

2019-12-31 05:08:47 UTC

Give the Entrepreneurs enough power to where they can innovate and excel

2019-12-31 05:08:51 UTC

@Light constant insurrection, state will exist on paper but it's not enforced

2019-12-31 05:09:17 UTC

Constant war and revolution sounds lovely

2019-12-31 05:09:28 UTC

Also, rebel organizations are already "states"

2019-12-31 05:09:53 UTC

I don't see African rebels effectively governing anything

2019-12-31 05:09:55 UTC

Iโ€™m saying that we should somewhat suppress entrepreneurs so they canโ€™t make disgusting things like porn norโ€™ control the workers. In that way they have control over the system.

2019-12-31 05:10:18 UTC

By owning businesses, they inherently control the workers

2019-12-31 05:10:43 UTC

@Deleted User Never heard of Codreanu. Enlighten me, please.

2019-12-31 05:10:55 UTC

Capital is social power

2019-12-31 05:10:58 UTC

Capital is economic power

2019-12-31 05:11:02 UTC

Capital is, simply, power

2019-12-31 05:11:07 UTC

@Light Yet they should be supressed

2019-12-31 05:11:12 UTC

Romanian fascist, ended up upsetting both the Romanian monarchy and communism via a method of clerical fascism through the Iron Guard party.

2019-12-31 05:11:27 UTC

Businesses must be allowed to exist for the purpose of technological innovation.

2019-12-31 05:11:30 UTC

Without doing something about their ownership of capital, you can't quite do that

2019-12-31 05:11:46 UTC

This was him.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587015719141507102/661436316872867840/image0.jpg

2019-12-31 05:11:48 UTC

Innovation isn't just the result of business/capitalism

2019-12-31 05:12:19 UTC

It mostly is.

2019-12-31 05:12:24 UTC

In the pharmaceutical and medical field, for example, most advancement is the result of government funding

2019-12-31 05:12:25 UTC

Look at japan breh

2019-12-31 05:12:29 UTC

It's the result of industrialization

2019-12-31 05:12:29 UTC

It's really just funding, to be honest

2019-12-31 05:12:39 UTC

>shoots a policeman at his trial
>ends up being found not guilty

2019-12-31 05:12:41 UTC

They have massive technological advancement due to businesses

2019-12-31 05:12:41 UTC

<:lmao:588490785029226548>

2019-12-31 05:12:47 UTC

LMFAO

2019-12-31 05:12:51 UTC

Did he really?

2019-12-31 05:12:55 UTC

Based

2019-12-31 05:12:55 UTC

Yes

2019-12-31 05:13:03 UTC

C h a d

2019-12-31 05:13:13 UTC

Iโ€™m gonna have to read on him

2019-12-31 05:13:31 UTC

Use a source other than Wikipedia.

2019-12-31 05:13:41 UTC

Itโ€™s got โ€œraging Jewโ€ all over it.

2019-12-31 05:13:42 UTC

I think its commonly agreed that the police are one of the worker's true enemies

2019-12-31 05:13:43 UTC

Will do.

2019-12-31 05:14:04 UTC

I need to buy more books but i know iโ€™d never actually read them

2019-12-31 05:14:09 UTC

Fugg :DDDD

2019-12-31 05:14:33 UTC

Wikipediaโ€™s good for things such as the sciences but is absolutely abysmal at politics relating to WWII in terms of clinical/neutralized tone.

2019-12-31 05:14:50 UTC

Read: Not supporting your worldview

2019-12-31 05:14:55 UTC

>Implying science is even ok

2019-12-31 05:15:26 UTC

I outright reject all science except physics, mostly due to physics being separated from all opinions.

2019-12-31 05:15:33 UTC

Based

2019-12-31 05:15:53 UTC

How is chemistry subject to opinions?

2019-12-31 05:16:00 UTC

How is biology subject to opinions?

2019-12-31 05:16:00 UTC

Mongolite is like one of the coolest people here wtf

2019-12-31 05:16:10 UTC

@Light Chemistry makes meth

2019-12-31 05:16:12 UTC

Meth bad

2019-12-31 05:16:15 UTC

Lmao

2019-12-31 05:16:45 UTC

Nah but not all sciences are bad, but a lot of them are inflated with political shit from liberals

2019-12-31 05:17:21 UTC

Not really, honestly

2019-12-31 05:17:29 UTC

A lot of science is based upon fringe views on life, and are not easily proven by scientific method.

2019-12-31 05:17:43 UTC

Some are just developing fields, or more fragile

2019-12-31 05:18:06 UTC

Scientific method cannot prove all things. Thatโ€™s why i respect people like Einstein because he understood this.

2019-12-31 05:18:21 UTC

Howso?

2019-12-31 05:18:28 UTC

Physicists are truly the most chad scientists

2019-12-31 05:18:43 UTC

Theoretical stuff, I suppose

2019-12-31 05:18:54 UTC

But even then, in theory, it could still be proven

2019-12-31 05:19:37 UTC

@Light I mean, you can more or less distinguish who writes what between the two categories of my aforementioned topics. The former is typically written by a science student or graduate who incorporates 10+ footnotes in a single paragraph supporting the facts of which, the latter sounds more like the raging boner of some soy who somehow manages to make an even longer article have less citations.

2019-12-31 05:20:16 UTC

Thereโ€™s a very clear distinction in quality.

2019-12-31 05:20:31 UTC

"aforementioned topics" being "hard" and "soft" sciences, I presume?

2019-12-31 05:20:38 UTC

My view on it is that the conclusion part of the scientific method can be altered with opinion

2019-12-31 05:21:00 UTC

Soft sciences are still valid

2019-12-31 05:21:12 UTC

They're just more fledgling fields, and significantly easier for laymen to interpret

2019-12-31 05:21:13 UTC

No, I was referencing to my previous claim.

2019-12-31 05:21:23 UTC

Well before this discussion on the sciences.

2019-12-31 05:21:28 UTC

Ah, wikipedia stuff

2019-12-31 05:21:39 UTC

As iโ€™ve said, John Money, the creator of Gender abused two biological boys because he believed on could be turned into a female through social changes. He considered it a success, yet both boys ended up committing suicide.

2019-12-31 05:21:49 UTC

I mean, a handful of sources make sense in some cases

2019-12-31 05:21:52 UTC

David Reimerโ€™s story was absolutely awful.

2019-12-31 05:21:56 UTC

He suffered.

2019-12-31 05:21:57 UTC

Scientific method is not always the solution to problems

2019-12-31 05:21:58 UTC

Especially if you're looking at individual stuff

2019-12-31 05:22:11 UTC

John Money... what?

2019-12-31 05:22:19 UTC

@Deleted User May he rest in peace. Lord knows he deserved none of what was brought to him...

2019-12-31 05:22:31 UTC

John Money has been criticized in recent times

2019-12-31 05:22:34 UTC

Quite a bit

2019-12-31 05:22:38 UTC

He also wasn't the "creator"

2019-12-31 05:22:40 UTC

Rightfully so

2019-12-31 05:22:46 UTC

of said fields of study

2019-12-31 05:23:09 UTC

Also, John Money's "study" wherein some boy was forced to transition...

2019-12-31 05:23:10 UTC

He was the creator of Gender. But he is also a pedophile and child abuser.

2019-12-31 05:23:11 UTC

Failed

2019-12-31 05:23:13 UTC

John Money is, in summation, a pedophile and a prominent peddler of the โ€œgender spectrum.โ€ The study of which ultimately blasted back into his face after Reimer decided to turn back.

2019-12-31 05:23:25 UTC

As a consequence, it arguably *proves* that gender identity is innate

2019-12-31 05:23:30 UTC

I feel so fucking bad for Reimer

2019-12-31 05:23:55 UTC

It only goes to show that men like him deserve to be shot/hung/burnt alive

2019-12-31 05:24:08 UTC

There are a lot of ways to kill a man, but he deserves them all

2019-12-31 05:24:30 UTC

And, as people are trans, I'd continue, *proves* that people aren't always born to the correct gender

2019-12-31 05:25:26 UTC

Brings me solace that horrid men will be brought to their appropriate layer of hell

2019-12-31 05:25:37 UTC

Not really, the spectrum is on par with the absurdity of creationism, which is peddled and promoted less by scientists and actual geneticists, than by social โ€œscientistsโ€ who hardly earned the distinction of their baccalaureates.

2019-12-31 05:26:17 UTC

Thatโ€™s because actual geneticists will be refused by the media

2019-12-31 05:26:35 UTC

There is no genetic evidence to suggest that there is more than one sex

2019-12-31 05:26:40 UTC

It depends on what you define as "gender"

2019-12-31 05:26:47 UTC

In the common language, gender being sex

2019-12-31 05:26:56 UTC

Gender is a fallacy in the first place. I refuse to use the term.

2019-12-31 05:26:56 UTC

Well, besides intersex people - sure, two sexes

2019-12-31 05:27:01 UTC

nobody's going to disagree with you

2019-12-31 05:27:22 UTC

Intersex people are just malfunctions from the birthing process

2019-12-31 05:27:23 UTC

What do you want to use instead, then?

2019-12-31 05:27:34 UTC

So they canโ€™t really be registered

2019-12-31 05:27:36 UTC

To discuss expression of characteristics associated with sexes

2019-12-31 05:27:46 UTC

In social and physical senses

2019-12-31 05:27:51 UTC

The word sex is appropriate in all of the terms

2019-12-31 05:27:58 UTC

So, sex expression?

2019-12-31 05:28:00 UTC

Is that good?

2019-12-31 05:28:05 UTC

You either are or you arenโ€™t. To be or not to be.

2019-12-31 05:28:34 UTC

One may pretend to be female, but he is never truly.

2019-12-31 05:28:47 UTC

The entire โ€œgender spectrumโ€ play is derived from a combination of mental gymnastics and pseudoscience.

2019-12-31 05:29:02 UTC

It is a lie that he has told himself a thousand times over, just to ensure that he wonโ€™t doubt himself,

2019-12-31 05:29:03 UTC

Not really

2019-12-31 05:29:10 UTC

People express themselves in different ways

2019-12-31 05:29:22 UTC

People have different notions of "self"

2019-12-31 05:29:31 UTC

That doesnโ€™t make them not male or female

2019-12-31 05:29:49 UTC

You cannot escape your true self, no matter how much you pretend to be someone else.

2019-12-31 05:29:52 UTC

You cannot change your sex through any mechanics. End of story,

2019-12-31 05:29:52 UTC

In terms of sex, sure

2019-12-31 05:30:01 UTC

But we're not talking about sex, Mongol

2019-12-31 05:30:03 UTC

Neither in gender.

2019-12-31 05:30:23 UTC

"Gender" refers to identity, to self-identification, to expression, to perception

2019-12-31 05:30:27 UTC

Gender is a product of capitalism to sell us shit and fight communism

2019-12-31 05:30:36 UTC

^

2019-12-31 05:30:38 UTC

Gender was made by bathroom companies to sell more bathrooms

2019-12-31 05:30:42 UTC

Somewhat based

2019-12-31 05:31:05 UTC

I need to sleep. Goodnight.

2019-12-31 05:31:09 UTC

Gender existed before capitalism but okay

2019-12-31 05:31:23 UTC

Also, let's not even get started on how the sexual spectrum exists

2019-12-31 05:31:41 UTC

BECAUSE IT DOESNโ€™T EXIST HAHA

2019-12-31 05:31:45 UTC

(It does)

2019-12-31 05:31:53 UTC

As countless studies have proven

2019-12-31 05:31:58 UTC

Everyone's a tidbit bi

2019-12-31 05:32:07 UTC

Some moreso than others

2019-12-31 05:32:46 UTC

Not really, thatโ€™s just a bunch of flamboyant personalities or โ€œquirksโ€ claiming to be unique by attempting to subscribe to some niche psychology that has neither received scientific verification nor recognition.

2019-12-31 05:32:55 UTC

@Light dont care

2019-12-31 05:33:06 UTC

Literally just used to sell us shit

2019-12-31 05:33:07 UTC

Enkrum, gender is defined by society

2019-12-31 05:33:17 UTC

Inherently, sure, it's just personality, it's just self-expression in some manner

2019-12-31 05:33:38 UTC

But as society has determined the gender of certain clothes, activites, etc.

2019-12-31 05:33:45 UTC

It's thus part of gender expression

2019-12-31 05:35:02 UTC

- which largely, if not entirely, derives from and correlated to biological sex.

2019-12-31 05:35:36 UTC

Thatโ€™s about on par with neglecting the genetic aspect composing a 60% influence in socioeconomic factors.

2019-12-31 05:35:42 UTC

Do you consider someone wearing lipstick, a dress, with a lovely manicure done, going shopping as masculine as someone with... I don't know, a battleaxe aloft over their head, wearing nothing but the furs of animals they've personally hunted and wrestled, @Deleted User ?

2019-12-31 05:36:12 UTC

(The answer is no)

2019-12-31 05:36:57 UTC

You're recognizing gender expression in that moment

2019-12-31 05:37:13 UTC

You're recognizing gender

2019-12-31 05:37:36 UTC

Generally, expression and identity correlate, unless an individual is suppressing themselves, in which case, there might be a departure

2019-12-31 05:37:57 UTC

But, in a Hagelian way, we seek to make others view us as we view ourselves

2019-12-31 05:38:52 UTC

"gender" is just a term to solidify "gender expression" and "gender identity", it makes no comments on sex

2019-12-31 05:39:00 UTC

We've got other terms to do that

2019-12-31 05:39:07 UTC

Arising from latin, of course

2019-12-31 05:39:11 UTC

trans-*, and cis-*

2019-12-31 05:39:32 UTC

like 99% of people (or thereabouts, I don't know the number), are cis

2019-12-31 05:39:39 UTC

But, there's those few instances

2019-12-31 05:39:56 UTC

Mind you, few instances adds up to "millions of people"

2019-12-31 05:40:10 UTC

Since we're discussing in terms of hundreds of millions to billions of people

2019-12-31 05:41:01 UTC

Anecdotal evidence to support your argument doesnโ€™t particularly help when there is evidenced, underlying preferences utilized by both sexes that ultimately contributed to our preconceived notions of what a man prefers versus that of a woman.

If youโ€™re attempting to quote or derive from the philosophy of Virginia Prince, who utilized virtually no scientific citations, nor was even engaged in the sciences, in her novels on attempting to challenge those established notions, then, as stated before, ultimately perpetuating the same absurdity as that of a creationist.

2019-12-31 05:41:16 UTC

I'm sorry, what?

2019-12-31 05:41:42 UTC

That didn't address anything I discussed

2019-12-31 05:41:57 UTC

We see concepts of "gender" throughout history, across societies...

2019-12-31 05:42:02 UTC

It varies a tidbit, mind you

2019-12-31 05:42:32 UTC

I'm not arguing that the idea of "gender" isn't in part from certain characteristics of the corresponding sex, if that's what you presume I'm saying (albeit, even when there is a correspondence, it's often exaggerated to an unrealistic degree)

2019-12-31 05:42:40 UTC

But my evidence isn't at all anecdotal

2019-12-31 05:44:55 UTC

My clarityโ€™s slipping out and itโ€™s turning late; potentially I misread or whatnot.

2019-12-31 05:46:00 UTC

Fair enough

2019-12-31 05:49:00 UTC

Are you familiar with the Reimer incident.

2019-12-31 05:49:09 UTC

I am - and I'd argue it proves my point

2019-12-31 05:49:24 UTC

wow

2019-12-31 05:49:28 UTC

that website is not reputable

2019-12-31 05:49:28 UTC

at all

2019-12-31 05:50:00 UTC

Iโ€™ll clear that up.

2019-12-31 05:50:04 UTC

And get a new variant.

2019-12-31 05:52:09 UTC

I did not see the sidelines of that one, kek.

2019-12-31 05:52:57 UTC

Reading the wiki story, it seems like a bit of a stretch to actually draw tons of conclusions based upon gender identity from this...

2019-12-31 05:53:22 UTC

There are likely other citations which derive, but this in particular was a landmark case.

2019-12-31 05:53:39 UTC

Unfortunately, Reimer blew his head off.

2019-12-31 05:53:47 UTC

So we cannot get a direct account from him anymore.

2019-12-31 05:54:35 UTC

True

2019-12-31 05:54:36 UTC

But...

2019-12-31 05:54:42 UTC

There's various... compounding factors

2019-12-31 05:54:49 UTC

He apparently had a slurry of financial issues, a failing marriage, and some other property issue in his last days.

2019-12-31 05:55:10 UTC

Namely sexual abuse, divorce, financial issues, and...

2019-12-31 05:55:12 UTC

well, the list goes on

2019-12-31 05:55:22 UTC

Suicide of his brother, too...

2019-12-31 05:55:29 UTC

It's not simply "gender"

2019-12-31 05:55:46 UTC

Also, case studies 'n' all

2019-12-31 05:56:36 UTC

The twin brother also had schizophrenia, so...

2019-12-31 05:59:08 UTC

We can discuss this in the morning.

2019-12-31 05:59:11 UTC

I need to head to bed, I got something important to attend around 10.

2019-12-31 06:01:46 UTC

Alright - ttyl

2019-12-31 08:12:09 UTC

California is trash

2019-12-31 08:12:16 UTC

It should sink into the Atlantic tbh

2019-12-31 08:53:46 UTC

So like

2019-12-31 08:53:52 UTC

Is @Flat Earth Subgenius serious, or...

2019-12-31 09:04:48 UTC

<:dynoSuccess:314691591484866560> ***Flat Earth SubGenius#3090 has been warned., advertising***

2019-12-31 11:05:53 UTC
2019-12-31 11:05:53 UTC

**@Deleted User** has been thrown into the gulag.

2019-12-31 11:37:22 UTC

Vc

2019-12-31 14:26:46 UTC

I got sick yesterday (feels like the flu) and like an idiot stayed up until 3.... I didnโ€™t get much sleep. I wonder if Iโ€™ll be able to make it and watch the ball drop or if Iโ€™ll be ZZZzzing by then

2019-12-31 14:27:16 UTC

@Deleted User Could you link me the Path of Gods discord?

2019-12-31 14:28:24 UTC

@Ater Votum Starve yourself for about a day or two. Viruses need food just as much, so if you starve yourself you are effectively starving the virus.

2019-12-31 14:43:46 UTC

@everyone
if you play the new zealand shooting video at exacting 11:57pm on new years eve and get to start the year off seeing a muslim getting killed ๐Ÿ˜„

2019-12-31 14:43:51 UTC

in minecraft

2019-12-31 14:44:06 UTC

as a joke

2019-12-31 15:39:26 UTC

@Deleted User don't think viruses work like tapeworms

2019-12-31 15:48:19 UTC

They really do

2019-12-31 15:48:50 UTC

Cause what viruses do is take over cells in the first place, so if you starve those cells of nutriment theyโ€™ll die

2019-12-31 15:52:40 UTC

how far do yuo go with killing yuor own cells

2019-12-31 15:52:50 UTC

@Ater Votum you kill yourself

2019-12-31 15:52:57 UTC

No cells anymore

2019-12-31 15:53:00 UTC

No viruses

2019-12-31 15:53:04 UTC

No

2019-12-31 15:53:17 UTC

until yuore skinny twink mode maybe

2019-12-31 15:53:22 UTC

Wdym this is a foolproof anti-viral strategy

2019-12-31 16:23:47 UTC

Actually if we literally destroy the planet all problems facing humanity will cease to exist

2019-12-31 16:23:53 UTC

Mine is better

2019-12-31 16:53:15 UTC

@Ater Votum I suggest not eating for 2 days and then start eating

2019-12-31 16:53:22 UTC

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