Behold your mother is profound as well

Ignore all the <:virgin:402360028528377868> Bergolio books

Are any of you guys able to read and write in latin?

@DavidTheSlumpGod douay Rheims

Lol i was ABOUT TO ASK

Is any one here a douay rheims only cath?

The virgin kjvo Baptist vs the CHAD dro Catholic

didn't want to keep it at just chesterton

Awesome

O poop my audio books too

I recommend the fourth cup by scott hahn as well

beter get real books and bibles

cause all that shit is toast when the grid goes out

>penguin classics
<:cringe:402359483117862932>

yes i am building both libraries but becuase im in the military and cant pack all the books i want i have to compromise some

bro i gotta make do okay, I already spend too much on books

gonna save up for latin-english translation though

those are 25 a piece so it takes a while

For anyone wanting to convert to Catholicism, try to do it through an SSPX parish or even FSSP if you can

you'll avoid lay-taught and modernist RCIA programs, and instead receive a much more orthodox theological and spiritual instruction by a trained priest

Eh SSPX is....problematic....to put it very charitably but ill support FSSP parishes

I'm from an FSSP parish, can definitely confirm this. My catechism is amazing.

First ever sessions even went into the whole philosophy and aside from that you have to read like 1950 instructions. They make sure it's before V2

What is SSPX and FSSP

Super basic intro: SSPX split from Rome because they wanted to keep the Latin Mass and ordain their own bishops. FSSP split from SSPX because they wanted to keep the Latin mass but remain with rome

i read some stuff earlier

they are not really split in some sense

but it is indeed complicate3d

its not a schisiim

or so some would say

yeah I know, it's still better to stay away until it's settled imho

both are great

if u can only find novus ordo parishes and services this will suffice and if you have no other options dont not feel bad about going to them

Full autismo version: the SSPX is a priestly society that was founded with the full approval of Rome by Archbishop Lefebvre, he did so to preserve the full integrity of the Catholic faith against the modernist forces of Vatican II. In the years following Rome tried to force them to accept modernism and perescuted them by pulling their ordinary jurisdiction when they refused. Since then they have continued to administer the sacraments under supplied jurisdiction

Without the SSPX the traditional Latin Mass would be virtually non-existent today

Eh. Benedict was a thing so thats probably not accurate

In fact i think the separation of SSPX from ordinary parishes helped modernists cast aside the true Catholics instead of SSPX helping with returning normies to traditions

Cowards ran when there was a fight. I have parisioners who returned from SSPX to FSSP parishes because they realized SSPXis infiltrated by sede cucks and leading many astray.

I get the SSPX argument and canon law etc. But i think its just wrong. The church didnt schism during the Arian heresy. People stood and fought and were persecuted for the truth even when the popes and emporers were interfering.

we may have a debate in the near future sedes vs non sedes on the daily braap

this isn't a sede debate

No sedes here

The SSPX laity were just Catholics who refused to accept the novus ordo and doctrinal abiguities of VII

But i want the blood of the martyrs to run the streets

they couldn't exactly force diocesan parishes to continue the TLM

I want to see excommunication of lefebvre

So people wake up

But instead he slinked away quietly and with a whisper not a bang. You get what im saying right?

i meant we would have some discussion about this issue on the show

the daily braap possibly next saturday

with classical theist

and maybe simon the sede

but simon is no where near as educated as classical

He was (falsely) excommunicated and he fought for the faith agressively when he was alive

I'd watch, though theist is hard to listen too imho.

His fight was well intended just on the wrong battlefield

Is my point

Anyone want to give their thoughts on the Borgias?

Aka

yeah but if theist is with other people

he will be way more bearable

he will be with me and others

Pope Alexander VI

i read lefabrve wasnt actually excommunicated

he wasn't validly, because the reason was ridiculous and uncanonical

Again the primary reason he founded the SSPX was to continue administering the Mass and sacraments to the faithful under the traditional pre-VII form, which would have been impossible any other way

faithful laity who were in a spiritual crisis without that

ok serious quesytion how am i supposed to celebrate all these amazing feast days

FSSPers wouldn't have their fssp and summorum pontificum if he hadn't done it

probably true

If you have a 1962 missal it has dedicated prayers for all of the feast days

True, it's more about the future now. FSSP is growing whilst the SSPX situation seems to only be done right by a conservative pope. Kinda waiting for that so things get cleared up. I just don't want people to fall for sedes.

Not saying SSPX is sede to clarfiy. But even in my parish voices are heard. We have to be careful.

true but the sspx is anti-sede too

^^

yeah dont have that

a missal

Just because we dont know what wouldve happened doesnt mean lefebvre and others made the best decision for the future of the church

We dont know what a little more laity and a little more clergy would have done to support Benedict. But instead his allies chastised him and seperated themselves as SSPX. Its possible that the St Gallen Mafia would have been defeated for good. But now we have a Francis Pontificate. And i think it vouod have been avoided if more Faithful remained to support her Papa Emeritus in the fight against modernism

But we will never know either way UNLESS i see "significant" numbers indicating SSPX priests or faithful slowly returning to the church. Due to whatever. Then i would cacnonize lefebvre lol

Ratzinger/Benedict was a slightly less liberal modernist, and regardless I’ve been talking about the 1970s in the immediate wake of VII.

We're talking about a time when high altars and altar rails were being physically torn out of churches, and clown masses/'new sacraments' being forced on the laity

Then this is just a misunderstanding lmao. There is indeed a big difference between then and now. My own archbishop removed the table himself as sign of what is to come.

It really is a misunderstanding

Yeah man them clown masses were real af

And the scandal of all those nuns becoming defacto whores and stuff

JMJ

Times had a magazine with that on the cover

Scandalous

YO

Yo*

Anyone want to give me a brief summary of the Borgias?

id like to hear some takes as well

I'm watching the Borgias

On Netflix

And so far

It's a great show

its a good show but its hollywoods takes ]

its scandalous and does not give one custody of the senses

All SSPX priests now are ordained under the authority of Rome, and they even organize the mass at the Vatican occasionally. I dont see how it could be seen as problematic

Maybe under the assumption of heresy against the church during the time lefebvre was excommunicated because all the people he ordained were considered invalid but its way different now.

^^I think the SSPX are for the most part fine rn, I'd personally rather go to FSSP mass if I can but it's sacraments aren't illicit anymore I don't think

@jabbatheshlut Thanks for the book recommendation yesterday my dude, Answered so many questions I didn't know I even had

Even better that it came from an ex-calvinist so a lot of the issues he originally had were the same as mine

Okay this is epic

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are exorcisms legit?

are demonic nibbas real?

yup

demons are real

so are eucharistic miracles

How could you see modern liberalism and not believe in demons

Are ordodox welcome here :D

Borbobox :DDDDDDDD

https://twitter.com/remnantnews/status/1046789865784971268

@cry☧☩icKiwi isnt it crazy how he starts off the "it is finished"...understanding 1st centure hebrew culture and expressions gives true context to the scriptures...i also like his take on the Gospel of John and how its sort of out of place as its not "synoptic" but its rather meant to explain throughout its entirety that Christ is our Passover. Beautiful.

Yeah, I really feel like it made my understanding of the life of Christ as a whole so much more complete

I'd always just assumed "it" was just his time on earth originally

Did you finish the whole thing?

Yeah

Listened to it over the past two days while studying

Dank. Yeah glad you took the recommendation.

Glad you recommended it!

Thanks big guy

O and the description of how the jews would roast the lamb. And the visual that gave

I think the book as a whole highlights why you can't just remove all "human tradition" and sacraments from religion in the way Calvin tried to do. Even if you ignore the fact that the Eucharist is the new covenant, the fact that all this information (The reverence towards cups that were used to carry the blood of christ, the opinions of the desert fathers etc) was either ignored or forgotten about by the Reformed churches shows the need for a great deal of attention to be given to the early church and its founding.

I unironically feel similar to King Josiah after hearing about the correct ancient religious scrolls at this point

Catholics rise up lol

Veronica didn't wear a veil to mass today when will we catholic gamers stop being oppressed

My 2 year old wears a veil to mass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lwwfCpvXnc

i never knew how ridiculous some of steven andersons ideas are

I'd heard the thing where he tells gays to kill themselves before, it's a good meme especially with him being on such a left wing state propaganda network, but horrible advice

Vaticancatholic is a heretic

Hes like cancerous af stay away from other than keeping him in your prayers

@Inquisitor of this Flavortown yes demons are real and so are exorcisms https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiYh96TrITE&ab_channel=TheReelDeels

Rippperger is a real Chad

DIMOND BROTHERS ARE FUCKING JEWISH SLAVES

scares the ever loving hell out of me

I found out my priest was taught by fr. Ripperger in seminary.

I like his homilies on sensus fidelium

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

epic

Pray for me fellas im gonna be traveling

Going to some Catholic churches to see what they're about and learn what i need to do to join The Catholic Church , finna covert when i get back from vacation

If you can try to go to a latin mass

Yeah i will

@RetardO ExtremeO

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVdGX3N-WIJ5nUvklBTNhAw?&ab_channel=AscensionPresents

this channel is very helpful and can answer a good number of outside questions

father mike is awesome

Thanks based boomer

kisses for the homies

vaticancatholic is a heretic but he does have some informative things

What's vaticancatholic said that was heretical?

And also, father mike is probably the most helpful person I've seen on yt

hes a sede

If you like wamen Lizzie's answers is suprisingly solid and fairly mainstream apologetics

based and red pilled

"Catholic answers" always maintains to be a deposit of faith

Once you get your power level up you can get into Sensus Fidelium with ease

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PscwvMDR-t0

this was good

really wish she hadnt yelled the whole time

but ya know

wamen

whats a sede

sedevacantist

I told you it was decent content

I actually watched her prior to her being a catholic lol. If you listen to her errant theology and look at the comments Catholics were all over her saying JUST CONVERT ALREADY lol

are magicians posessed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fKrFeX8dRY ok they are

Holy shut

VATICAN CATHOLIC IS HERETICAL AF

Stay away from the Dimond bBrothers they are very ill and need prayers

listening to a woman nigga what

Why no cultural Christains ;-;

the bible is literally true

Even Genesis and Revelations big guy?

Those were metaphors

so was the book of Ezekiel

What's the point in cultural Christianity, either there's an absolute truth or there isn't, and if there isn't there's no point to Christianity

Peter was the first pope sorry if i offended you snowflake

Values and morale systems

cultural christianity is like having the teacher give u homework and tell you that its a good idea to do your homework, but then doesnt check at the start of the class if you've actually done your homework

Yes but cultural christainism is more pragmatic bc of that

????

there is no authority behind it

if you dont believe there arent any consequences to not living up to christian teachings

It influences political change and social change. Theres no authority itw more a binding of Christian values.

Influence is more important than punishment.

epic

Imagine having to explain to God before heaven you really liked the 'culture' he left behind.

Why would i explain an all knowing god something he already knows

Haha wow epic btfo. Totally doesn't miss the point.

whos gonna live a better christian life

someone with or without fear of god

thats the problem with cultural christianity

IT DONT WORK

Thats all i have to say.

So the onky reason you live a good life is out of fear?

no

what are u an atheist or what

Godless heathen smh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE5twWtQhRA What is this? Is this legit?

Yes but i believe religion is good for society.

out of fear?

out of love first

Thank you Joe

it shouldnt be about fear at least not priamarily

Ni🅱️🅱️er... NO CULTURAL CHRISTIANS ALLOWED

nibbas

listen

we have a catholic show this weekend

on the daily braap

this saturday

classical theist is coming on

I was really interested in the episode of Am First with him on it but found myself totally unable to pay attention

Idk if it was just his voice or what

well simon sasquatch is also gunan be on

and igf you have questions

you should call in

🅱️ossibly

do it

or write your questions down

and ill ask them

Send that server invite again my guy

is suicide not allowed under any circumstance by the church

or are there loop holes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/403686744421171211/497208653078855681/1518374613512.jpg

Death in battle or some other heroic end like martyrdom @Inquisitor of this Flavortown

@Inquisitor of this Flavortown
1. Become Pious as possible
2. Preach the true faith as loudly as you can out of a genuine love for God
3. Get stabbed by a leftist/muslim
4. Dab on them from heaven

>become as pious as possible

What does that actually look like? What are concrete steps to actually becoming more pious ?

literally deus vult

reclaim the holy land and reclaim the roman empire

study the saints dude, next to that, pray that God guides you.

pray a 15 decade rosary every day

@Christopher literally be a working neet who doesnt jerk off, eat too much, have sex (repetitive with the usage of eat i know), be envious, be overly angry, have no "friends" (most of your friends are degneerates who could care less about you), pray, and help nibbas out

idk about jesus's policy on anime tho

just dont watch hentai i guess

only watch Shonen

Ez

thanks for the pointers guys, I've started doing some of these things but I definitely have a long way to go

Self denial is key, staying away from drink isn't exercising temperance if you don't really like drinking anyway

But staying clear of takeout food is if you're into that