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2018-07-01 16:43:20 UTC

Look I have to say people like Jay Dyer and his acolytes have given me a much more negative opinion of Orthodoxy then I used to have.

2018-07-01 16:43:22 UTC

Why is it not enough to follow the teachings of Christ, the morals and the Bible and call it a day? Will someone who believes in Christ and follows his teachings to a T go to hell if he's not a Catholic or if he doesn't like Catholicism?

2018-07-01 16:43:41 UTC

@DOAN You believe in a fundamentally Protestant view of Christianity.

2018-07-01 16:44:43 UTC

@DOAN it's like this. The path has been painted for you by the wisest men of their century. Do you want to follow them or man with thin arms who claps hands like girl

2018-07-01 16:45:25 UTC

Lmao but wasn't Luther pretty redpilled on the JQ

2018-07-01 16:45:37 UTC

Both Orthodox and Catholic hold that the deposit of the faith is the sacred tradition and not the Bible.

Protestants believe that the Bible is the deposit of faith and it dovetails nicely with their anti-clericalism.

2018-07-01 16:45:55 UTC


2018-07-01 16:46:04 UTC

Because if you can go straight to the Bible and read it yourself and interpret doctrine like that you don't need a hierarchy

2018-07-01 16:46:17 UTC

In fact at that point the hierarchy become gate keepers

2018-07-01 16:46:53 UTC

Is protestantism the root of western degeneracy?

2018-07-01 16:48:04 UTC

A lot of people say it is

2018-07-01 16:49:08 UTC

I don't like chasing the original vampire. But you can certainly say that the Protestant Reformation was the point at which Christendom began to fracture.

2018-07-01 16:49:52 UTC

There's always been heretical and proto-Protestant movements in Europe but they were suppressed until that point where it got out of control with Luther.

2018-07-01 16:50:55 UTC

I think western degeneracy is an original sin problem fundamentally

2018-07-01 16:54:59 UTC

When in doubt, blame it on demons

2018-07-01 16:56:59 UTC

God takes from you what you don't deserve to have

2018-07-01 17:01:03 UTC

Is that why Martin shrekli is in prison?

2018-07-01 17:02:09 UTC


2018-07-02 02:37:53 UTC

no its litterally a fucking fact

2018-07-02 02:38:42 UTC

You can trace nearly every problem the west has now to the reformation, which birthed enlightenment thought, which then evolved into both marxism and the epic democratic liberalism we got now

2018-07-02 04:30:28 UTC

@Deleted User Nothing is new under the sun

2018-07-02 04:51:15 UTC

Was Communism a gift from God to Eastern Europe or the work of Satan?

2018-07-02 04:52:44 UTC

God works in mysterious ways, as they say. I couldn't say for sure if it was overall good or bad. I think it was evil, but good can come from pain.

2018-07-02 04:53:08 UTC

We'll see in another few decades if it was worth it.

2018-07-02 04:55:16 UTC

Eastern Europe is much more Christian then we are today. They had many martyrs under communism, and it was hard to be Christian. Perhaps more souls went to heaven under communism then capitalism

2018-07-02 04:55:51 UTC


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maybe communism was divine chastisement

2018-07-02 04:56:29 UTC

But really, if you look in the Bible, there are a lot of stories of groups getting persecuted only to have a golden age afterwards.

2018-07-02 04:57:01 UTC

that's what Augustine said of the sack of Rome

2018-07-02 14:25:37 UTC

guys take it outside of chrsitian posting

2018-07-03 03:19:29 UTC

I was raised as a heeb but have rejected it, is catholicism the way to go?

2018-07-03 03:19:40 UTC


2018-07-03 03:30:37 UTC

Catholicism is always the way to go

2018-07-03 13:21:53 UTC


2018-07-03 19:50:07 UTC

begome cadolig

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2018-07-04 02:06:24 UTC

fregin heretic

2018-07-04 02:25:43 UTC

@Joe the boomer We have the most beautiful mass in all of Christendom!

2018-07-04 02:30:05 UTC

alot of retards in the comments

2018-07-04 02:42:13 UTC

i noticed haha

2018-07-04 02:42:38 UTC

the reference to peter as rock in John does not proceed a confession

2018-07-04 02:42:41 UTC

so that polemic is shit

2018-07-04 07:24:31 UTC

@Ben Yeah but you have to be the Roy Cohn kind of jew


2018-07-07 02:13:03 UTC

@leopirate Does man have the right to sin?

2018-07-07 02:15:04 UTC


2018-07-07 02:16:13 UTC

@Scooter2000 God gave man the gift of freewill. Man condemns himself with sin.

2018-07-07 02:16:35 UTC

I'm working on a video series that showcases the fruits of sin:

2018-07-07 02:18:29 UTC

@leopirate Does man have the right to sin?

2018-07-07 02:21:59 UTC

No, man does not have the moral or legal entitlement to transgress God's law.

2018-07-07 02:23:48 UTC

@leopirate Then man does not have any right whatsoever to freedom of his conscience

2018-07-07 02:24:55 UTC

The capability to sin is ever present, meaning freedom of conscience does exist.

2018-07-07 02:25:19 UTC

Being able to do something does not mean you have a right to it. Man has no right to Blasphemy for example.

2018-07-07 02:25:30 UTC

But it's not under God's law, it's under Satan's law

2018-07-07 02:25:45 UTC

"The law of sin" as the Apostle Paul explains

2018-07-07 02:26:08 UTC

So we should permit the law of Satan?

2018-07-07 02:26:14 UTC

And give deference to it?

2018-07-07 02:27:02 UTC

No. We should expose the error and death caused by Satan's law, and not put people to torture chambers for inquiring about it.

2018-07-07 02:27:31 UTC

Did anyone propose torture chambers?

2018-07-07 02:27:46 UTC

The Catholic Church did in its enforcement of "God's law"

2018-07-07 02:27:57 UTC

God didn't smite Satan when he fell from heaven. Instead, God let the angels observe what he has done to mankind through the ages.

2018-07-07 02:28:19 UTC

Why would you advocate for a freedom you know immoral?

2018-07-07 02:28:55 UTC

Conscience is thought. It has not yet become action. I believe in criticizing ideas, not burning them.

2018-07-07 02:29:10 UTC

You believe in the tolerance of error

2018-07-07 02:29:14 UTC

By your definition so does God, with his handling of Satan in the great controversy between him and Christ.

2018-07-07 02:29:57 UTC

Should we have any laws based on morality?

2018-07-07 02:31:22 UTC

God does not tolerate error. He exposes it so it is not repeated, showcasing all of the death that comes from it.

2018-07-07 02:31:48 UTC

So should we have any laws based on morality?

2018-07-07 02:32:00 UTC

I mean do we have any duty to govern even our own behaviour?

2018-07-07 02:32:13 UTC

As said by the Apostle:

2018-07-07 02:32:32 UTC

"For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: **for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men**."
Paul the Apostle, 1 Corinthians 4:9

2018-07-07 02:32:46 UTC


2018-07-07 02:32:49 UTC

Yes or no?

2018-07-07 02:33:13 UTC

Yes we do have the duty, however we cannot do it in fully in our sinful state. We must let God's Son do it for us.

2018-07-07 02:33:25 UTC

Which means what

2018-07-07 02:33:58 UTC

By letting Christ's divine character manifest in your actions, speech, personality, etc. you will reflect the character of God -- who has never sinned.

2018-07-07 02:34:08 UTC

Which means what

2018-07-07 02:34:41 UTC

I'm not sure what you're asking.

2018-07-07 02:34:49 UTC

I'm asking you what that means practically

2018-07-07 02:35:10 UTC

I get that it's a conveniently flattering position to hold rhetorically

2018-07-07 02:36:11 UTC

If you're not Christian, it seems like rhetoric. But if you do believe in the Gospel, you understand Jesus was the Passover Lamb for the Jew and Gentile. Meaning, by believing in the merits of a crucified and risen savior, you can overcome sin through Christ. Not your own works.

2018-07-07 02:36:34 UTC

Yeah well again that's convenient rhetoric

2018-07-07 02:36:50 UTC

Because that doesn't actually tell me anything

2018-07-07 02:36:59 UTC

Relevant to the question

2018-07-07 02:37:48 UTC

"Christians" are those who follow Christ -- the anointed one. Practically, your life should resemble the life of the Son of God.

2018-07-07 02:37:58 UTC


2018-07-07 02:38:10 UTC

Cause I could give you an extremely clear answer

2018-07-07 02:38:14 UTC

You don't seem capable of that

2018-07-07 02:38:20 UTC

Living in accordance with the Ten Commandments.

2018-07-07 02:38:25 UTC

Ok good.

2018-07-07 02:39:08 UTC

I apologize if I'm not being clear. I assumed you knew the character of Christ already. And how he never sinned, and fulfilled the law.

2018-07-07 02:39:19 UTC

If you don't know these things, then yes what I said earlier may have seemed like rhetoric. It's not.

2018-07-07 02:39:29 UTC

I do know these things

2018-07-07 02:39:42 UTC

This is how people who don't have answers speak - sanctimoniously

2018-07-07 02:40:16 UTC

If there is a moral law which we know and man has no right to error then why would we enthrone as good, right and desirable policies which oppose that moral law?

2018-07-07 02:40:18 UTC

Jesus kept the ten commandments. Those who follow Christ do as well.

2018-07-07 02:40:22 UTC

"Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."
Revelation 14:12

2018-07-07 02:40:48 UTC

For the same reason God didn't smite Satan.

2018-07-07 02:40:55 UTC

He rebuked Satan

2018-07-07 02:41:07 UTC

he was cast from heaven
removed from the life of grace

2018-07-07 02:41:14 UTC

He will smite Satan, but only after he has fulfilled his purpose: Exposing evil to the angels who never knew sin.

2018-07-07 02:41:15 UTC

he was clearly punished

2018-07-07 02:41:40 UTC

we know from sacred scripture that at the final judgement Satan will be punished and those who reject God will also be punished

2018-07-07 02:41:48 UTC

See what I said above

2018-07-07 02:41:56 UTC

And so justice is clearly a virtue

2018-07-07 02:42:02 UTC

I agree

2018-07-07 02:42:07 UTC

So why should we not follow that virtue

2018-07-07 02:42:59 UTC

Because you can say that God allows evil to persist for his own providential ends (which I agree) but he also clearly desires the salvation of man and Christ warns those who would corrupt the faith of others

2018-07-07 02:43:32 UTC

And he does that through his servants, who observe the sixth commandment.

2018-07-07 02:45:06 UTC

What the government does should be based on the well being of the state. Letting crimes go unpunished is detrimental to the state. That is separate from what individual Christians should do.

2018-07-07 02:45:30 UTC

How can what is good for individuals be bad for the State

2018-07-07 02:47:43 UTC

Followers of Christ should leave the enforcement of laws to the earthly and heavenly governments, as Jesus did while he was on earth.

2018-07-07 02:54:12 UTC

Off topic, but I wonder what church the Apostle Paul was talking about here? 🤔

"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; **Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats**, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth."
Paul the Apostle, 1 Timothy 4:1-3

2018-07-07 02:54:51 UTC

What denomination forbids its ecclesia, priests and nuns, from marrying? And that thing called Lent? Hmmm 🤔

2018-07-07 03:10:10 UTC

"Followers of Christ should leave the enforcement of laws to the earthly and heavenly governments, as Jesus did while he was on earth"

What about Christians make up the civil authority?

2018-07-07 03:10:34 UTC

"What denomination forbids its ecclesia, priests and nuns, from marrying? And that thing called Lent? Hmmm 🤔"

It was the Judaizers who kept the old temple laws

2018-07-07 03:10:59 UTC

Judaizing was the first heresy and St. Paul devotes a lot of his writings toward combatting it

2018-07-07 03:12:25 UTC

The Roman Catholic Church didn't exist in the Apostle Paul's time. So if you read the full verse, particularly when he says: "that in the **latter times** some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and **doctrines of devils**"

2018-07-07 03:13:10 UTC

He did fight against Judaizers. However, he is speaking about practices after his day. Mainly the current practices of the Catholic Church.

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2018-07-07 03:13:20 UTC

In this letter to Timothy

2018-07-07 03:13:29 UTC

Clearly not

2018-07-07 03:13:52 UTC

How do you interpret "latter times"?

2018-07-07 03:14:04 UTC

There were plenty of gnostic sects that actually applied these rules universally that fulfills these doctrines much more clearly.

2018-07-07 03:14:11 UTC

I don't interpret the Bible

2018-07-07 03:14:27 UTC

of course, leave that to people who know what they're actually doing

2018-07-07 03:14:27 UTC

Do you have any other goal posts you want to shift?

2018-07-07 03:14:46 UTC

haha are you seriously saying I'm shifting goal posts while you appeal to authority?

2018-07-07 03:15:03 UTC

We were talking about freedom of conscience

2018-07-07 03:15:15 UTC

and like you did with Nick this turned into a general assault on the Church

2018-07-07 03:16:09 UTC

Prayerful study of the bible reveals more than the interpretations of pedophiles in fancy long robes.

2018-07-07 03:17:02 UTC

"What about Christians make up the civil authority?"
They can make their arguments for legislation by using secular evidence. Their world view can still be formed by the Word of God, but when it comes to enforcing it, they need empirical evidence.

2018-07-07 03:17:10 UTC

It is always the last resort of people who have no argument to engage in slander

2018-07-07 03:17:28 UTC

"They can make their arguments for legislation by using secular evidence. Their world view can still be formed by the Word of God, but when it comes to enforcing it, they need secular logic and evidence."


2018-07-07 03:20:16 UTC

I don't see how I'm dodging your questions. You can reach the same conclusions the infallible Word of God makes with empirical evidence. Take for example in Proverbs how it speaks against alcoholism. When a Christian civil servant wants to endorse laws for the minimum age of drinking, he should point to the biological effects alcohol has on a developing individual. He can point to real world examples of underage drinking leading to societal problems, etc.

2018-07-07 03:20:50 UTC

This doesn't make any difference

2018-07-07 03:21:26 UTC

hahaha earlier you were saying I was shifting goal posts and on my "last resort"
now you say it doesn't make any difference lmaoooo

2018-07-07 03:21:28 UTC

What is the end result? Civil laws based on the moral law of the Church

2018-07-07 03:21:36 UTC

Stop being a child.

2018-07-07 03:21:39 UTC

it makes ALL the difference

2018-07-07 03:21:44 UTC

it makes no difference

2018-07-07 03:22:09 UTC

What difference is it if you ban gay marriage based on explicit observance of the moral law or ban gay marriage from a secular argument

2018-07-07 03:22:34 UTC

Well I should say making a secular argument while holding private religious intentions

2018-07-07 03:22:37 UTC

once you say the laws should be informed by the Catechism, you're no different than a theocratic state, which Jesus was against (Mark 12:17)

2018-07-07 03:22:51 UTC

I deny this allegation

2018-07-07 03:29:22 UTC

We would say that Christ rebuked the pharisees for their denial of the legitimacy of his ministry not because they worked in concert with the state. Your position forces you into contradiction where you must uphold the legitimacy of immorality (which you even allied with Satan directly) for the public while holding a private position congruent with morality.

2018-07-07 03:30:20 UTC

(which you even allied with Satan directly)
"He will smite Satan, but only after he has fulfilled his purpose: Exposing evil to the angels who never knew sin."
I have no idea what you're going on about

2018-07-07 03:30:36 UTC

I never said to have a private or public opinion

2018-07-07 03:31:05 UTC

You clearly did

2018-07-07 03:31:34 UTC

"...your life should resemble the life of the Son of God."

2018-07-07 03:31:48 UTC

I'm saying to justify enforcing laws you should use the evidence from man, not authority from God. Rendering things of Caesar to Caesar, and things of God to God.

2018-07-07 03:32:26 UTC

Now, you can find evidence by using the Word of God as a starting point, which many of the greatest scientists of mankind did

2018-07-07 03:32:52 UTC

Why is it moral to make a law based off of completely irreligious appeal to consequences and why is it immoral to make a law based off of religious doctrine

2018-07-07 03:33:56 UTC

Jesus never established a theocratic state, so I have no idea what you're suggesting by quoting me with "...your life should resemble the life of the Son of God."

2018-07-07 03:34:25 UTC

It means you are supposed to live in imitation of Christ

2018-07-07 03:35:20 UTC

And Christ never said the government should be informed by scripture. He instead explained how the life of righteous individuals will follow the law, by accepting his sacrifice.

2018-07-07 03:36:17 UTC

Imitation of Christ means following Christ's conduct, how he lived, what he taught etc. Why would we do this in everything but our civil law?

2018-07-07 03:43:29 UTC

Because civil law is not the same as individual life. It involves enforcement of punishments from the state on others. Since civil laws will be applied to those who are not Christian, it shouldn't only be based on the morality of God.

Take for example gay marriage. I believe it shouldn't be allowed because Genesis defined marriage between man and woman. Jesus recited this in his arguments with the pharisees. When it comes to enforcing it, you can point to how allowing gay marriage destroys the functional purpose of the institution: the production of offspring for the state.

2018-07-07 03:44:04 UTC

"Because civil law is not the same as individual life. It involves enforcements of punishments of the state on others. Since civil laws will be applied to those who are not Christian, it shouldn't only be based on the morality of God. "

This is to imply that morality is dualistic.

2018-07-07 03:45:41 UTC

I believe in absolute moral truth from God. Man-made governments are not of God, they are of man.

2018-07-07 03:46:00 UTC

Should all men not conform themselves to truth?

2018-07-07 07:26:47 UTC

Can Mormons post here?

2018-07-07 07:27:08 UTC

or are they too closely tied to the freemasons?

2018-07-07 09:02:03 UTC

mormons aren't Christian!

2018-07-07 14:26:39 UTC

is leoprirate a prot fag ?

2018-07-07 14:26:47 UTC

if so he needs tyo be removed

2018-07-07 14:58:28 UTC

Say what you will about Mormons but Utah is a great state and BYU is probably a good college to get a trad gf at

2018-07-07 16:58:40 UTC

Which of the mormon colleges has the fuck hueg rape stats?

2018-07-07 18:34:30 UTC

@Joe the boomer 7th day adventist

2018-07-07 18:44:24 UTC

@Ben We could definitely learn a lot from Mormon social organization I'll say that much.

2018-07-07 18:47:38 UTC

i member mr fuentes saying that catholics are actually lower in child abuse than people usually claim

2018-07-07 18:47:41 UTC

anyone have source on that

2018-07-07 18:50:19 UTC

@zimthomas the clergy or families

2018-07-07 18:50:37 UTC

clergy i think

2018-07-07 18:51:06 UTC

i'll ask around

2018-07-07 18:51:13 UTC

big thank from big zombo

2018-07-07 18:51:58 UTC

i've heard that myself

2018-07-07 18:53:09 UTC

from what I've been told (by smart and reliable people) that clerical abuse was basically isolated in the 70's-80's and petered out after that
today after the reforms of Benedict 16 (then Cardinal Ratzinger) the barriers to entry into the clergy are actually quite strict

2018-07-07 18:54:22 UTC

i see i see

2018-07-07 18:55:05 UTC

cant really take those claims seriously from liburuls anyway when they dont even know who aisha tbh tbh

2018-07-07 18:56:08 UTC

there is a distributist video where he talks about these stats...

2018-07-07 18:56:49 UTC

@zimthomas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYdUDmSw3Tc

I'm pretty sure this is the video. I'll still look for the stats though.

2018-07-07 18:57:01 UTC

sweet cheers bud

2018-07-07 18:58:29 UTC

More required reading for all Catholics

2018-07-07 18:58:51 UTC

tldr Sacred Heart Nuns got subverted by psychologists in the 70's

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2018-07-07 21:21:57 UTC

pray for my mother shes in the ER shes a good catholic

2018-07-08 02:54:18 UTC

A prior pope once decreed that priests breaking their vows of chastity would result in execution. I think we need to revive the practice

2018-07-08 03:27:24 UTC

we will soon brother

2018-07-08 05:23:52 UTC

Beautiful melodies heavenly words

2018-07-08 05:50:15 UTC

seeing how unforgiving the world can be really shows how merciful god is

2018-07-09 02:36:36 UTC

I like the parable about the man who was forgiven 10,000 talents

2018-07-09 22:00:20 UTC

At this point why would anyone on our side still think it’s a good idea to pump atheism/paganism.

2018-07-09 22:01:39 UTC

Lmao get a load of this pagan


2018-07-09 22:01:47 UTC

Even if you’re someone that just can’t bring themselves to believe, what is the upside to taking people away from that

2018-07-09 22:01:57 UTC

Insane, lmao

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2018-07-09 22:03:06 UTC

I was listening to Enoch & Striker gleefully mocking Catholicism in some gay stream. They can only be doing this for their own egos

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2018-07-09 22:04:02 UTC

who won the debate

2018-07-09 22:44:32 UTC

ive just about had enough of pagans

2018-07-09 22:45:07 UTC

Anti 🅱agan Aktion


2018-07-09 22:54:08 UTC

as if things are not bad enough i have to deal with these degens undermining everything they are worse than white nationlists and natsoc larpers

2018-07-09 22:56:19 UTC

>Be in Christian west
>trying to appeal to last remaining conservatives
>these guys show up
>"hahaha kike on a stick my blood is magical"

2018-07-09 22:56:59 UTC

Nick is right to "divide" the movement i.e throw these clowns into the fire

2018-07-09 23:04:32 UTC

maybe nick isnt going far enough

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2018-07-09 23:08:34 UTC

Do 👏 it 👏 again 👏 Charlemagne 👏

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2018-07-10 21:22:11 UTC

parents called a 'mental health team' on me lads

2018-07-10 21:22:13 UTC

pray for me

2018-07-10 21:23:46 UTC

get a pfp

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why they do that

2018-07-10 21:29:08 UTC

what does that even mean parents claled a mental health team on you

2018-07-10 21:29:11 UTC

wtf r u talking about

2018-07-10 21:30:33 UTC

This is going to be bill in two hours

2018-07-10 22:25:08 UTC

Is it because you don't have a profile picture?

2018-07-11 11:34:50 UTC

This is now the official Gadolig Twitter water lol


2018-07-12 00:44:28 UTC

Hey, I have a question for anyone really, could someone tell me whether or not the Apocrypha is truly deuterocanonical or was it just like an epilogue added to the Old Testament by the church?

2018-07-12 00:52:59 UTC

I could like to know this as well but I'm new to all this so i have a limited understanding of the question itself though lmao

2018-07-12 00:53:14 UTC

It was used in the Greek Old Testament called the Septuagint

2018-07-12 00:53:27 UTC

This is the scriptures the Apostles and likely Christ himself knew

2018-07-12 01:06:00 UTC

Much obliged.

2018-07-12 15:36:06 UTC

@Akira Kurusu Whoa we're making the alt-right not gay anymore awesome!

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If you take away the fags from the alt right the alt right won't exist anymore <:lmaoJUST:402622080719519744>

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2018-07-12 15:55:07 UTC

I'm not /alt right/ lol I do think it needs to be replaced

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2018-07-12 15:56:08 UTC

This guy is actually right for the first time in his life

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