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2018-01-15 09:04:59 UTC

Serious political discussion/stories

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Sincere Question: How could we appropriately and feasibly solve Japan's withering national fertility rates, and repeal the post-war limitations on their military?

2018-01-15 09:06:27 UTC

> how do we solve japan

2018-01-15 09:06:29 UTC

> we

2018-01-15 09:07:29 UTC

I left 4chan for a reason, queer. It's an actual question. I just want opinion solutions on a problem I think plagues a nation. In the same way I would ask about Sweden's shitty political mindset.

2018-01-15 09:08:04 UTC

I remember reading a tweet where they subsidized childbearing in a town in japan and fertitlity doubled

2018-01-15 09:08:07 UTC

so there's your answer

2018-01-15 09:08:20 UTC

It was today or yesterday too

2018-01-15 09:08:21 UTC

But if we're reduced to America, then how do we increase nationalistic sentiment in The Rust Belt?

2018-01-15 09:08:43 UTC

@🎭🎵 WrathOfGnon?

2018-01-15 09:08:48 UTC

better local communities through stronger churches/governments

2018-01-15 09:08:55 UTC
2018-01-15 09:12:45 UTC

Follow Wrath if you don't, one of the absolute best timelines on twitter

2018-01-15 09:33:50 UTC

it was

2018-01-15 17:21:06 UTC

Japan is going to have the constitution reform in 2 years.

2018-01-15 17:21:14 UTC

Repeal Artical 9

2018-01-15 17:21:33 UTC

So it will be remilitarized

2018-01-15 17:21:36 UTC

Soon

2018-01-16 05:28:28 UTC

El Salvadors government says that return of TPS illegals would benefit their economy
http://elmundo.sv/bcr-retornados-de-ee-uu-beneficiarian-a-la-economia/

Liberals should agree since they thing illegal immigrants boost wages and create jobs instead of lowering and taking them

2018-01-16 05:35:21 UTC

@Huge Brain Oliver yes, new emperor in 2019

2018-01-16 05:35:55 UTC

<:banzai:285623226409943040>

2018-01-16 06:08:01 UTC

@Phallogos @Huge Brain Oliver What are the odds that the new emperor will be a cuck? As I understand it Akihito has had a great deal of reverence for his position. Will the next in line be Prince Harry-tier?

2018-01-16 06:09:46 UTC

the emperor is not relavant because the monarch does not have real power

2018-01-16 06:09:55 UTC

the people is awakening

2018-01-16 06:10:03 UTC

nationalism is rising

2018-01-16 06:10:28 UTC

abe administration is stable

2018-01-16 06:10:37 UTC

with high approval rate

2018-01-16 06:10:51 UTC

I understand, but in terms of the cultural Identity of Japan he is crucial no? Wouldn't a countersignaling emporer basically be similar to Pope Francis for catholics?

2018-01-16 06:10:57 UTC

abe has the will to reform the constitution

2018-01-16 06:11:15 UTC

*emperor

2018-01-16 06:11:23 UTC

japanese monarch does not show attitudes about policies

2018-01-16 06:11:23 UTC

hyping up the emperor is just a meme

2018-01-16 06:11:41 UTC

and japanese monarch is not cucked as european ones

2018-01-16 06:12:45 UTC

But would not an emp that aligned with Abe's positions give him more political power than he already has?

2018-01-16 06:13:29 UTC

japanese society is pretty conservative due to the residual of pre-Meiji fedual structure

2018-01-16 06:14:23 UTC

except the leftist intellectuals, artists, journalists and teachers which are worse than western left

2018-01-16 07:15:12 UTC

my innitial take aways from the Wohl vs. Fuentes debate:
1. I think Wohl enjoyed himself - enjoyed the challenage
2. He was consulting some resource from his computer
2b. But because he did not know Nick's position prior to the debate & because many of the points Nick used were never broadcasted on his show there is no way he prepared the resource himself
2c. I suspect the consulted resource was some ADL talking points to argue popular (((conspiracy theories)))
3. I don't think Wohl is aware of ZOG
3b. There were some things (like the nuclear program) that he might know about but I don't think he knows the full extent of it
3c. Because Wohl believes honestly that anything Nick suggests is unsubstantial he is confident that the debate will go in his favor
4. It looked like Wohl heard anti-Israel points he had never heard before
4b. Might have the effect of red pilling Wohl on Israel if even a little bit
5. Trump has met Wohl personally so via grape vine there is a chance that Trump might see the debate or at the least hear about it

2018-01-16 10:06:10 UTC
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2018-01-16 12:43:51 UTC

(((Schakowski)))

2018-01-16 12:43:55 UTC

fuck off shlomo

2018-01-16 14:24:44 UTC
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2018-01-16 14:27:52 UTC

what

2018-01-16 14:28:01 UTC

@epic blaze is a brainlet

2018-01-16 14:28:32 UTC

I am much smarter than him

2018-01-16 14:28:42 UTC

'he screwed up the timeout role

2018-01-16 19:56:46 UTC

Immigrants are more likely to have a university degree than natives, but, according to data from the OECD college-educated immigrants have skills much closer to those of natives who *just finished high school*.
https://nces.ed.gov/surveys/piaac

2018-01-16 20:11:47 UTC

if immigrants who has a university degree should be let in no matter what, then it becomes "anyone has graduated from a college in the world can become us citizens"

2018-01-16 21:54:51 UTC

@Huge Brain Oliver Imo the best way to argue for lower immigration is to promote high skill immigration instead of low skill immigration. You have to consider our interests and politics of immigration as it stands currently.

More wealthy immigrants are less likely to have replacement level birthrates. So the indian guy who comes here on an H1-B visa is less likely to have a kid than a Mexican coming here through and H2-B visa or coming in illegally.

If we were to put our support behind things like the RAISE Act (https://www.cotton.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=765) we would be able to cut immigration levels in half, and be able to mitigate the effects of demographic replacement of whites, while at the same time protecting white blue collar workers from a loose labor market

2018-01-16 21:56:25 UTC

yes raise act

2018-01-16 22:00:21 UTC

I mean high quality immigrants still have assimilation problem and we cannot have too many

2018-01-16 22:13:55 UTC

if it gets to the point where our doctors are getting replaced by foreign doctors that's a problem that is BIGGER than anyone taking a lowskilled labor job

2018-01-16 22:14:57 UTC

the law should let people in based off of demand for people for whatever sector, they have predictons for which sectors are going to grow and which ones arent. They can also forsee a need for more people in x field, as we see now in a demand for computer science and eldery care

2018-01-16 22:24:21 UTC

@🎭🎵 You have to understand this though, there's always going to be a high demand for foreign labor if that labor is cheaper than the native alternative. Like with H2-B's for instance, there isn't a massive shortage of labor supply in the H2-B sector, yet there is such a high demand. The reason why? Nine of the top 10 sectors occupied by H2-B workers have had stagnant or declining wages for the past two decades

I'd also argue that low skill natives being replaced and having their wages fall is the worst thing that can happen, low skill workers are generally low income earners as well. If you take away their source of income or diminish it, you're hurting people who need it the most. As opposed to a middle or upper class white collar worker who has a fairly good income

2018-01-16 22:29:27 UTC

a limited amount is ok but importing a master class will be worse

2018-01-16 22:31:13 UTC

especially many newcoming investement bankers, doctors, silicon valley elites, media personals have more allegience to their own tribe/country of origin than America

2018-01-16 22:31:28 UTC

not only economy matters

2018-01-16 22:33:42 UTC

I agree, my end goal is to end immigration entirely, but you have to cut the branches before you cut the whole tree.

Immigrants of all classes have allegiance to their own group, it's just low skill immigrants who have more children, i.e. creating more democrat voters.

2018-01-16 22:40:51 UTC

We could have a payment-based soft eugenics program to breed more high-IQ whites to serve those roles.

2018-01-16 22:51:34 UTC

Get rid of the visa program

2018-01-16 22:51:34 UTC

smh

2018-01-16 22:51:40 UTC

cmon fella

2018-01-16 22:51:47 UTC

people are having to retrain their replacements

2018-01-16 22:51:50 UTC

its horrible

2018-01-16 23:12:04 UTC

@Gregory Malchuk An open eugenics program in the United States is highly unrealistic, the public still associates anything with eugenics to nazism

@🎭🎵 I'm for cutting immigration worker programs as much as possible, at the current rate though we take in around 1.3 million immigrants a year. Only 1 in 15 are here because of their skills, it's better to take in high skill immigrants with low birth rates than to take in low skill ones with high birth rates

2018-01-16 23:30:40 UTC

SOFT eugenics. Like child payments scaled based on the IQ of the parents.

2018-01-16 23:36:22 UTC

@Gregory Malchuk You really think government officials would allow that though? You've gotta have your policies grounded in reality here.

2018-01-16 23:37:09 UTC

It is aspirational. A longer term goal.

2018-01-16 23:44:48 UTC

immigration law should be based on a fliexible set of rules instead of something set it stone

2018-01-16 23:45:05 UTC

which I mean it kinda is, I just dont like the idea of a bill not adapting to changing times

2018-01-16 23:45:35 UTC

if the bill says to take in doctors 10 years before and now our doctors are getting displaced we should be able to retweak who we let in withoutr having to pass a bill through congress

2018-01-16 23:45:48 UTC

which I think is already the case consitutionally it just isnt done

2018-01-17 15:17:51 UTC

boys, obviously we know trump being “mentally unstable” is a meme (stable genius). but my boss, chairman of state republican party, was at white house for christmas dinner and was waiting in large mob of people to say hello to the president. when he finally got up there my boss introduced himself and trump immediately recalled the names of each senator in my state and governor that was up for re-election this year and was genuinely interested in how they’re looking. he also offered to fly out and have a rally here on behalf of our governor. shows me he is engaged, focused, and devoted.

2018-01-17 21:19:35 UTC

@bress222 Based, you should take you boss' place

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2018-01-18 19:48:24 UTC

@everyone GET THIS GUY ELECTED TO CONGRESS https://dillinghamforcongress.org/

2018-01-18 19:51:29 UTC

Good dude

2018-01-18 20:52:12 UTC

@Thomas rather you use the here command just makes more sense

2018-01-18 20:52:22 UTC

I thought normies couldnt use everyone

2018-01-18 20:52:25 UTC

normie uprising

2018-01-18 20:52:25 UTC

oof

2018-01-19 05:24:32 UTC

@everyone attending the March For Life tomorrow, 1/19, I wish you the best of luck. We must defend our unborn brothers. A society that cannot protect the defenseless will fall to degeneracy. I pray that any attending may have success and bring others to our side

2018-01-19 05:29:24 UTC

@Broseph I really really wanted to attend this year, good luck man

2018-01-19 05:29:34 UTC

Hopefully i will be there next year

2018-01-19 07:02:09 UTC

What about nigger babies

2018-01-19 07:02:16 UTC

Can we still abort them

2018-01-19 07:02:20 UTC

And beaners

2018-01-19 07:15:07 UTC

Obviously the death of any innocent is a tragedy, and should not be treated as truly a tangible viable solution in a civilized state. What concerns me is that we're presently reaching the point where it has become a moral conundrum as to whether or not we would like these people (who are almost our racial enemies in many ways and facets of society) to kill their children so that they do not replace us. If I'm totally honest with myself and others, I have to admit I am quite literally at a moral crossroad when it comes to this.

2018-01-19 07:25:48 UTC

Here’s the facts. Over 40 million white babies have been directly aborted or had the conception negated through abortive contraceptives. There is your population replacement

2018-01-19 07:26:01 UTC

Abortion is completely correlated with white genocide

2018-01-19 07:27:13 UTC

Fair enough to me.

2018-01-19 07:32:27 UTC

If you think minority birth rates are a problem, abortion is not the solution. If we had kept immigration under control and kept the white birth rate up then it wouldn’t have happened. Increasing infertility, abortion, lack of family in whites, and bringing in more immigrants is what is replacing us

2018-01-19 07:32:41 UTC

Abortion must end for all our citizens

2018-01-19 07:33:17 UTC

Abortion doesn't hurt

2018-01-19 07:33:22 UTC

For now

2018-01-19 07:33:26 UTC

Much

2018-01-19 07:34:06 UTC

The contraceptive stat is ridiculous to use

2018-01-19 07:35:04 UTC

Not at all

2018-01-19 07:35:29 UTC

Over 60 million dead and 100s of millions prevented from surviving is no joke

2018-01-19 07:35:39 UTC

Communism is fine compared to abortion

2018-01-19 07:36:07 UTC

You don't get to use contraception for your numbers

2018-01-19 07:37:12 UTC

Why not?

2018-01-19 07:37:16 UTC

Birth control is the real white genocide

2018-01-19 07:37:31 UTC

Because it's a separate argument

2018-01-19 07:37:36 UTC

No it isn’t

2018-01-19 07:37:40 UTC

Abortion helps whites demographically

2018-01-19 07:37:43 UTC

Not abortive contraceptives

2018-01-19 07:37:48 UTC

Read about long term female fertility effects of hormonal bc

2018-01-19 07:37:50 UTC

It’s the same effect

2018-01-19 07:37:53 UTC

Abortive contraceptives?

2018-01-19 07:37:56 UTC

Yes

2018-01-19 07:37:59 UTC

Meaning

2018-01-19 07:38:14 UTC

Abortive contraceptive is an oxymoron

2018-01-19 07:38:24 UTC

As in pills you take that destroy the egg and sperm conception after conception

2018-01-19 07:38:32 UTC

It’s an ending of human life

2018-01-19 07:38:38 UTC

Oh yeah I count that as just abortion

2018-01-19 07:38:49 UTC

I thought you were talking about condoms

2018-01-19 07:38:49 UTC

Ok then abortion would be in 100s of millions

2018-01-19 07:38:55 UTC

Source

2018-01-19 07:38:58 UTC

Most don’t count that because it’s not recorded

2018-01-19 07:39:07 UTC

Sales of those products

2018-01-19 07:39:15 UTC

Sales don't imply use

2018-01-19 07:40:31 UTC

Abortions are massively over representative of blacks

2018-01-19 07:40:36 UTC

That’s why I’m only saying 100s of millions, not billions

2018-01-19 07:40:39 UTC

It’s an estimate

2018-01-19 07:40:47 UTC

>60 guaranteed

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100s probable

2018-01-19 07:40:54 UTC

According to what

2018-01-19 07:41:33 UTC

I'm not arguing that abortion is okay. I'm arguing the replacement thing you said. It's just completely wrong

2018-01-19 07:41:34 UTC

Planned parentheses stats and sales on post conception contraceptives

2018-01-19 07:41:41 UTC

It’s not

2018-01-19 07:41:44 UTC

Yes it is

2018-01-19 07:41:54 UTC

You're counting only the white abortions

2018-01-19 07:41:58 UTC

Lmao

2018-01-19 07:42:11 UTC

Immigration and the lowering of the white birth rate through the means I mentioned are the causes of white replacement

2018-01-19 07:42:51 UTC

So what abortion affects other races more than whites

2018-01-19 07:42:57 UTC

Without it demographics would be worse

2018-01-19 07:43:05 UTC

This is objectively true, and doesn't mean abortion is fine

2018-01-19 07:43:29 UTC

But the fact remains it's technically helping (to what degree I have no idea) demographics

2018-01-19 07:44:58 UTC

So you think if we had those 40 million white babies there would still be as much immigration as we had?

2018-01-19 07:45:15 UTC

There would be more black babies too lmfao

2018-01-19 07:45:24 UTC

You don’t think there would be a bigger pushback against bringing 10s of millions of spics in?

2018-01-19 07:45:25 UTC

If abortion was illegal it would be illegal for all

2018-01-19 07:45:31 UTC

Not true

2018-01-19 07:45:38 UTC

Wrong

2018-01-19 07:46:02 UTC

Blacks are highly more likely to get repeat abortions. They would not keep getting knocked up if they didn’t have the abortion option

2018-01-19 07:46:16 UTC

That's a retarded assumption

2018-01-19 07:46:19 UTC

The black abortion numbers are from a far fewer number of mothers

2018-01-19 07:46:22 UTC

NO ITS NOT

2018-01-19 07:46:28 UTC

Look at the population numgers

2018-01-19 07:46:44 UTC

Clearly black mothers on average get more abortions than whites

2018-01-19 07:46:52 UTC

They mathematically have to

2018-01-19 07:46:53 UTC

Saying they wouldn't keep getting pregnant is a retarded assumption that you're basing off nothing

2018-01-19 07:47:19 UTC

They wouldn’t be physically capable because they’d be pregnant most of the time

2018-01-19 07:47:45 UTC

You think they're getting abortions like 3 times a year? No

2018-01-19 07:47:49 UTC

If they didn’t have abortion they’d be forced to be parents and couldn’t have a kid for already 10 months

2018-01-19 07:48:03 UTC

We have around 800k abortions ever hear in the US and around half are blacks

2018-01-19 07:48:22 UTC

So you think blacks would keep getting knocked up after the 5th kid?

2018-01-19 07:48:25 UTC

This is 400k abortions /45M blacks

2018-01-19 07:48:42 UTC

When they would be getting abortions in the first place because they can’t afford kids?

2018-01-19 07:48:54 UTC

Yeah cause that's stopped them in the past

2018-01-19 07:48:58 UTC

Yes I’m sure they’d keep screwing themselves more

2018-01-19 07:49:00 UTC

And who says they are averaging 5 abortions

2018-01-19 07:49:15 UTC

Can you Give any numbers or do you just guess and make things up

2018-01-19 07:49:20 UTC

Truth be told, blacks have very little concept of consequences. If you think that adding on another one would somehow stop them from trying to fuck each other like bored animals, then you're mistaken.

2018-01-19 07:49:26 UTC

Yeah

2018-01-19 07:50:03 UTC

You really aren’t seeing how I’m demonstrating 2 realities, one where abortion is outlawed and blacks are forced to have less sex and less kids for the same reasons they currently get abortion, and the current reality

2018-01-19 07:50:04 UTC

You are just objectively wrong if abortion was illegal it would make a lower demographics of whites

2018-01-19 07:50:12 UTC

Not true

2018-01-19 07:50:17 UTC

I’ve demonstrated how that’s false

2018-01-19 07:50:20 UTC

Wrong

2018-01-19 07:50:29 UTC

How do you know whites wouldn't have less sex and less kids?

2018-01-19 07:50:37 UTC

The blacks would literally die out if they fucked as much as you’re implying they would without abortion

2018-01-19 07:50:40 UTC

You're guessing

2018-01-19 07:50:47 UTC

No we have all sorts of safety nets

2018-01-19 07:50:52 UTC

Fact is they wouldn’t have as much sex if they didn’t have the abortion option

2018-01-19 07:50:57 UTC

Wrong

2018-01-19 07:51:04 UTC

Maybe slightly

2018-01-19 07:51:10 UTC

Fact is immigration has brought in more people who have kids than abortion has gotten rid of

2018-01-19 07:51:22 UTC

Fact is millions of whites are dead because of abortion

2018-01-19 07:51:28 UTC

Same with blacks

2018-01-19 07:51:36 UTC

Almost equal numbers

2018-01-19 07:51:43 UTC

False

2018-01-19 07:51:50 UTC

Source something

2018-01-19 07:51:55 UTC

You talk out of your ass

2018-01-19 07:52:05 UTC

I explained how blacks have more abortions on average

2018-01-19 07:52:07 UTC

And make assumptions you can't justify then change the topic

2018-01-19 07:52:14 UTC

Therefore they’d have less kids if it were gone

2018-01-19 07:52:26 UTC

Same with whites dude

2018-01-19 07:52:30 UTC

Nope

2018-01-19 07:52:33 UTC

You can't say to what degree this would play out

2018-01-19 07:52:39 UTC

Holy fuck you are literally retarded

2018-01-19 07:53:00 UTC

Whites would be more likely to keep their kids they get pregnant with, while blacks wouldn’t get pregnant in the first place

2018-01-19 07:53:10 UTC

Just like it was before abortion was legal

2018-01-19 07:53:20 UTC

You’re pretending our history doesn’t prove me right

2018-01-19 07:53:23 UTC

You are telling me blacks, the people who leave heir kids 70% of the time would stop fucking each other and making babies when they get on welfare because abortion isn't legal?

2018-01-19 07:53:38 UTC

They only started getting pregnant more when abortion was legalized

2018-01-19 07:53:41 UTC

No you are so wrong it's not even funny

2018-01-19 07:54:00 UTC

Why weren’t they 60 years ago?

2018-01-19 07:54:11 UTC

Maybe because they weren’t able to?

2018-01-19 07:54:13 UTC

Are you joking or are you actually this stupid

2018-01-19 07:54:36 UTC

Because there weren't fucking mountains of money they could count on from entitlement programs for having kids

2018-01-19 07:55:11 UTC

I’m not sure how you’re drawing these straw men up

2018-01-19 07:55:28 UTC

I'm not sure how you've been talking for 15 minutes and haven't given a single figure

2018-01-19 07:55:31 UTC

To justify anything

2018-01-19 07:55:34 UTC

When I say I want the legal precedent from 60 years ago put back, that includes the social programs

2018-01-19 07:55:40 UTC

I did

2018-01-19 07:55:44 UTC

You ignored them

2018-01-19 07:55:50 UTC

I said source

2018-01-19 07:55:52 UTC

I told you planned parenthood

2018-01-19 07:56:02 UTC

There are 800k abortions a year

2018-01-19 07:56:04 UTC

Half are blacks

2018-01-19 07:56:21 UTC

If you’re gonna deny common sense then I’m not gonna bother giving you a college level debate

2018-01-19 07:56:22 UTC

If we cut all abortion the black % of population would go up over time as a direct result

2018-01-19 07:56:33 UTC

I am in graduate school

2018-01-19 07:56:39 UTC

You are not justifying anything

2018-01-19 07:56:45 UTC

You know the facts but contort them to fit your narrative and label me falsely

2018-01-19 07:56:48 UTC

No

2018-01-19 07:56:56 UTC

You are objectively wrong

2018-01-19 07:57:01 UTC

And can't justify your assumption

2018-01-19 07:57:10 UTC

I’ve stated simple logical steps to my conclusion yet you deny basic human behavior

2018-01-19 07:57:14 UTC

No

2018-01-19 07:57:16 UTC

Wrong

2018-01-19 07:57:19 UTC

I can’t help you with that

2018-01-19 07:57:27 UTC

No “sources” will change your bias

2018-01-19 07:57:33 UTC

Why do you think that blacks would stop being impregnated while whites wouldn't

2018-01-19 07:57:37 UTC

If abortion was illegal

2018-01-19 07:57:52 UTC

You're comparing society over a span of 6 decades

2018-01-19 07:58:02 UTC

If you think this is a valid comparison that's just embarassing g

2018-01-19 07:58:22 UTC

You have a very brainlet way of viewing “if a radical social change happened that took away a guarantee that hundreds of thousands rely on, then attitude and output WON’T change”

2018-01-19 07:58:26 UTC

That is retarded

2018-01-19 07:58:48 UTC

You think blacks would stop fucking without condoms? If abortions were illegal?

2018-01-19 07:58:51 UTC

I explained the averages

2018-01-19 07:58:53 UTC

That is retarded

2018-01-19 07:58:54 UTC

You won’t listen

2018-01-19 07:59:04 UTC

The averages are irrelevant

2018-01-19 07:59:18 UTC

Because they're not getting abortions more than once every 9 months that's so stupid to think

2018-01-19 07:59:45 UTC

Also whites rely on abortion too

2018-01-19 07:59:53 UTC

Which you have yet to deal with

2018-01-19 07:59:56 UTC

Whites get less abortions so are more likely to keep getting pregnant and keep them. Blacks can’t afford babies so they would stop getting pregnant if they didn’t have abortion JUST like 60+ years ago and all historical precedent

2018-01-19 08:00:26 UTC

We are comparing he people who would already be getting abortions and you're talking about white people broadly lmfao

2018-01-19 08:00:30 UTC

Waste of my time goodbye

2018-01-19 08:00:39 UTC

Blacks would have more kids than now, not more than whites

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