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This petition going around to have the electoral college to honor the popular vote... I guess I support it. That does sound more fair.
HOWEVER.
My gut instinct is telling me most of the people who signed it (and it's something like 4 million now) are people who refused to vote in the first place.
^
Honestly no-show voters had more of an affect on this election than third party voters.
And you can be assured they're the one that will whine the loudest when it doesn't go their way.
And I'm like "Bitch, I agree with you, but you lost all right to complain about it when you refused to show up to vote in the first place."
Even if I don't like your choice, I can still respect you bothered to bring your ass over to the voting booth if you went third party.
And honestly it didn't make a difference this election. Not enough voted for the liberal third party to make a difference and the conservative third party isn't as broken up about Trump because he's closer to them than Clinton.
The Johnson voters were enough to turn it to clinton but almost all of them would have went Trump before Clinton anyday.
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I know but this was to good to pass
God she's such a cunt who lacks any self awareness.
She's such a caricature. Especially since she goes from "love and understanding" to "Fuck you, white people".
Gday guys
yeah lacis not the sharpest tool in the shed aye
Why can't she be a lovable cunt? Like Bearing?
not sure, she works for mtv, so I guess thats a starting point as to why
It seems the phrase "red pill" is catching on lately
Obama: You may have defeated Hillary, Trump. But I will simply impose martial law and refuse to leave the White House! Goodbye, forever!
Obama attempts to take back the White House only to be struck by Trump's toupee
Trump: This is the power of straight white males! They sent my hairpiece flying all the way out here to D.C.! Now, Obama, your next line is "Was this part of your plan all along, Trump?"
Obama: Was this-!?
This momentary distraction was what assured Donald Trump's victory. Negative approval ratings that the Liberal media could have glossed over were exposed and sent Obama flying.
Obama: GUAAAH! Was this part of your plan all along, Trump!?
Trump: Of course! I'm a brilliant businessman and I planned all of this perfectly from the beginning! (Thinking) No, even I didn't think I'd win this election. But I'll say anything to piss him off.
The power of straight white males was more than Obama could overcome and managed to expose his true Birth Certificate! They did not have enough power to vote him out of the White House four years earlier - but they could banish him outside of the United States of America!
Obama: Sombreros! How is this possible!?
Forced out of the country, his true birth certificate exposed, Obama was sent to Mexico with the rest of the illegal immigrants. Without the Liberal media to constantly sustain him, Obama eventually stopped thinking.
oops, forgot my name wasn't changed in this server
Lmao
Norwegian massmedia is calling Trumps' cabinet and staff "straight outta hell"
Or rather, "taken straight out of a horror movie"
I blame California
This doesn't happen with any other country
And Hollywood is to blame
*nods*
Hello
The establishment can go fuck itself
It's completely lost touch with the real world and the people they are supposed to represent, protect and serve
^
I am happy most of Americans agree on that part at least. It means their days are numbered.
Indeed
I love how people take one quick look at my FB profile and quite literally judge by the cover of the book not to debate me
Because I "won't listen to their arguments"
Well, if you actually have some I am willing to listen
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Millennials.
They may not yet be the present, but theyโre certainly the future. These young, uninitiated minds will someday soon become our politicians, doctors, scientists, chefs, television producers, fashion designers, manufacturers, and, one would hope, the new proponents of liberty. But are they ready for it?
Time after time, particularly on college campuses, millennials have proven to be little more than entitled, spoiled, anti-intellectual brats who place far too much emphasis on feelings and nowhere near enough emphasis on critical thinking. To the millennial, words are cause for the creation of safe spaces, alternative ideas must be stifled, and anything they perceive to be a microaggression is enough to send them spiraling into a state of mental distress.
Itโs time millennials understood these 7 harsh realities of life so we donโt end up with a generation of gutless adult babies running the show.
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This... was posted by an irate, hardcore conservative baby-boomer on my FB feed.
I don't 100% disagree with the sentiment of course.
But I find it immensely hypocrtiical from who it is coming from.
Millenials are people who were porn after 2000 right
The babyboomers are an even more entitled generation. And is actually the most entitled, most senstive, whinest and most adult babyish generation we've ever had.
Fuck i meant born
I think it's more about anyone born from the late 80s to today. Anyone who was not yet a full teen by the 2000s.
The center paragraph there is 100% correct.
The last one just makes me laugh at how hypocritical it is given that it's coming from a boomer.
You know, maybe it's because I'm not a US citizen, but I'm not even worried about his cabinet.
There's some safeguards in place to make sure things don't get out of hand. Like, idk, *the American people*?
It's not the doomsday scenario it's been made out to be. Their number one priority is going to be helping corporations get richer. Not attack everyone else that's bene feared.
No matter what they've done in the past to do that at state levels or as ridiculous campaign promises to trick moronic voters.
You mean... the same thing Clinton's cabinet would do?
Same damn thing.
The election is a farce.
I'd like to be a little more optimistic
All the choice we get is what color our pile of shit is. they'll do the exact same damn thing either way.
My optimism comes from how the states, as in the state level politics and not federal, are starting to push for campaign finance reform that will push money out of politics.
In that election, two more states, mine included, voted to ban money from local state elections.
I mean think of the message this election has sent to the establishment.
I consider that part of the same thing. They think that money is all they need to get their way and we sent them two messages that that's not enough anymore.
People are smarter than the establishment gives them credit for and if they don't watch out, in four years people will just vote Kanye West into office just to spite them.
y
pls no
not Kanye
President Gay Fish
#GayFish2020
I support Vermin Supreme and his free pony platform
Fishsticks
Does me being not straight, or even cis, make it more okay to make gay jokes at people's expense? ๐
Speaking of Gay Fish, this week's south park episode was pretty meh.
Fuck people getting butthurt over gay jokes.
Everyone should be able to be joked about.
well they had to make it at the last second. They expected Hillary to win and when she didn't they had to throw something else together very quickly.
So you shouldn't have expected a high quality episode.
The next ones will be better.
I actually predicted this. I was keeping my fingers crossed, but I was really hoping the hidden voters would come through.
Which they totally did.
honestly, me and my friends talk mad shit about each other in any way possible, race, religion, politics. It's just us messing around. We should be able to joke about anything
Actually they didn't. Less people voted republican in the last four elections.
Trump won because most of the people who regularly voted Democrat just didn't show up.
Which you can still say is the same thing.
They wouldn't support someone they knew stood for the establishment.
It's the same thing in a different way
Trump Saltmining Inc.
lol
I love how smug Sargon is being.
The salt market is booming guys
He totally deserves this though
salt stocks plummet as the market floods
He does
The only problem with not voting at all versus voting for Trump in protest is that the Republicans won all the majorities in the swing states and in the federal congress.
Tumblr, as always when republicans do anything, is a fucking salt castle sitting on top of a salt mine the size of the planet
And while Hillary was a piece of shit, most of the Democrat party isn't as corrupt as her.
It's my strong belief that everyone should vote the way they feel like voting.
Though they are still very bad.
I also don't believe that third party votes are wasted
I also don't think nonvoters are betraying anyone.
Or third party voters for that matter
third party votes are just fine, I honestly encourage it, just sucks that third party gets so little exposure
The only third party candidate that got any notable amount of votes was the one polticially closest to Trump so the people who voted for him are not that broken up as they'd have despised Hillary for more than just being establishment.
The whole "Those who voted for third party actually voted for trump" do not seem to understand how voting works.
A third party votes means you don't want *either* of them to win.
But I guess those libtards do not seem to understand this.
TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, most of the people who voted third party actually voted against trump because he was their closest preferred candidate.
If you follow that line of reasoning to its conclusion that is.
In any case it makes no sense to complain to them.
If you gotta complain to anyone, complain to peope who refused to vote at all.
some people don't want to support Hillary, but can't subscribe to Trump's ideas so they vote third party, this is also true of the reversed situation
I don't think that's proper either.
Not voting is your right.
and not voting is its own protest in a way
I am not sure Trump HAS any ideas. He certainly didn't expect to win. And he seemed to say whatever the hell he thought would get him votes with no actual idea how he was ever going to do it.
I would like to give him more credit than that.
All the fake stories like the gay guy who got beat and bloodied are pissing me off
if you read through his policies you will find that there is subtance to them
he couldn't get to president-elect without legit ideas
^
His more recent proposal had some zany ideas but most of them actually were more in line with Bernie's policies than Clintons or any other GOP candidate.
I think the SJW's who scream "Muh racist whites" fail to realize that without the white vote Obama wouldn't have won
Like rejecting the TPP, which would be disasterous for the country.
I think his plan to bring outsourced jobs back to the US sounds extremely plausible. The only problem is whether or not congress will let him do it.
well yeah, Trump probably ran republican for maximum coverage, he liklely could have ran independant, just like Bernie probably could have
Rejecting the TPP... would be... disastrous?
TPP is cancer
No, accepting it would be.
The TPP would be disastrous for **everyone**
needs to be thrown out
CLinton would have accepted it in a heartbeat because her corporate masters told her to.
I'm not sure what miracle caused the TPP to be delayed for so long.
Obama was in favor of it.
*Thankfully*, rejecting the TPP is a power the POTUS actually does have.
If it passed we could say goodbye to freedom of speech. That'd be gone. then and there.
The TPP would basically be the start of the world of Shadowrun lol
I'm surprised SJWs fought it. It had everything they wanted. Controlling what people say is a wet dream of theirs.
you know what would be amazing is if Farage took some sort of position advising Trump, or was at least involved in US politics more
SJWs are a lot of things but they are not pro-establishment
and another good thing is that the morning after the election Putin was already talking about fixing relations with Russia
and the US
What is tpp?
It's cancer
I am not American so I don't know
Trans Pacific Partnership.
Do you know TTIP?
Ah
It's the same thing.
Yea
It was an international agreement that would have given multinational corporations direct control over the internet.
Abbreviation threw me off
Yeah no
Allowing them to censor people.
I know
well, ICANN is already a thing
Like literal cancer.
I am going fucking hack fucking everything if that happens
it's not in our hands anymore, the internet that is
Like the free speech thing just barely scratches the surface of how bad the TPP is.
I know
You know how badly YouTube handles copyright? And now it gets so badly abused?
Yes
It'd be like that. Only worse. And on the entire internet. Not just YouTube.
I know
Terrible
It's worse though. It allows for a special international court where multinationals can file criminal charges against anyone regardless of where they live.
You can literally go to jail and there's nothing your country's government can do about it to intervene.
The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN, /หaษชkรฆn/ eye-kan) is a nonprofit organization that is responsible for coordinating the maintenance and procedures of several databases related to the namespaces of the Internet, ensuring the network's stable and secure operation.[1] ICANN performs the actual technical maintenance work of the central Internet address pools and DNS root zone registries pursuant to the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) function contract. The contract regarding the IANA stewardship functions between ICANN and the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) of the United States Department of Commerce ended on October 1, 2016, formally transitioning the functions to the global multi-stakeholder community.
so yeah, this was already a thing, it's out of the US's hands now
Regulation of the internet in any way shape and form is bad
I don't think people are quite right about how terrible ICANN is.
thanks Obummer
They don't actually regulate the internet. They just keep the registry.
Leave it to individual ISP's and websites to self regulate
^that sounds bad too
The worst they can do is make your website mysteriously disappear. And I don't think they can do that without significant backlash.
the fact that they can do so is the problem
So could the US government back when they had it. But they didn't.
ICANN's primary principles of operation have been described as helping preserve the operational stability of the Internet
yes, but with an international board this could create issues that wouldn't occur with it under our ownership
You know, from a non-US citizen do you have any idea how crazy the idea is that one country controls the internet's register?
that may seem bad, but we're a country that at its roots values free speech
Your people may be, I don't think your government cares much for it.
unlike other nations that censor their citizens and their use of the internet
I don't think anyone in the western world does these things except maybe Germany.
but it's not just countries from the western world that control this international board
Besides, this ICANN is not a country and therefore has no citizens to censor.
It's not just China that controls the board either.
it can effect everyone's use of the internet though
and it's not only China that's on that board
Well, it's been this way for a while and we're still talking about how shit North Korea is.
So I don't think I need to be worried.
middle eastern countries, China, Russia and others are a part of it
it may not be a crazy important issue, but the worry over the situation is still kinda there for me and others
I know all these things you're telling me but I see no cause for concern.
Canada censors its citizens. Anything that is considered "hate speech" in person or on the internet, meaning anything SJWs don't like, is a felony in Canada and people have been convicted on it many times.
the US's free speech and freedom of expression is enshrined in law, that's why it was preferable to have it privately owned by them
in my opinion anyway
As much as the rest of the world makes fun of the US, the rest of the world is living in the dark ages when it comes to free speech.
yo can i get a link to the clip at the beggining repzion's "re:trumpocalypse" video?
It's not that far back in the log in the NSFW channel.
thanks
Scroll up.
๐ got it ty
Uhhh, Canada can arrest people for hate speech even if *no one* could control the internet.
That's not related to who controls the DNS registry
I know.
I was mentioning it because they ALREADY have been doing it.
Oh and on that note, no one can *truly* control the internet.
Not that they won't stop trying to control it.
You know what happens when people start going totalitarian on the world wide web?
People just move on to the deep web.
And that's where their control ends, really
it's not a problem you can get around unless you know about these things though
like an average user of the internet would know nothing about the deep web
I wouldn't underestimate the power of mouth to mouth communication
I suppose so
Going totalitarian on the entire internet will be a terrible mistake for the ones trying it.
They're the ones who will suffer for it.
yeah, but a generation that was born into that sort of thing wouldn't realize that it's not normal
I've never credited the people who try to do this with any abundence of intellectual capacity.
but I doubt anyone would suddenly forget what a free internet was like or not talk about it
SJWs don't seem to get that their attempts to censor people is what's killing their movement.
The point is, even if someone did try something, it wouldn't work out for them.
Censorship is a self-defeating action and those who do it are always too stubborn and stupid to understand that.
maybe they'll just peter out from in fighting eventually to see who has the most oppression points
The internet is the most people-empowering thing that exists in this world.
It's impossible to control.
you can control someone's access to it though
or access to parts of it
unless they learn of a workaround from an outside source
Its power to affect society is why people try to control it. They, rightly, see it as a threat to their power.
I don't think people are so unresourceful to not find it.
Google can find shit tons of things that government doesn't even think about.
but do people have access to google?
or government regulated search engines
You think google will accept its users becoming unable to access it?
well if a government blocks access, as I'm sure they do and have done then what is google gonna do?
How about Islamic countries banning all criticism on Islam...
The internet user is google's life blood. They can't just let them go.
they don't let them go, they never get them
Governments already block access to sites regardless of whether or not the US controls the DNS registry
I know, but it could be done across the board in this case
not just in a localized area or country
I don't know, all the logistics involved seem incredibly impractical.
it does seem impractical, but if they make small changes over time then whose to say they couldn't acomplish such a thing?
You know who notices small changes?
Our Google, who art in cyberspace,
Hallowed be thy domain.
Thy search to come,
Thy results be done,
On 127.0.0.1 as it is in the Googleplex.
Give us this day our daily searches,
And forgive us our spam,
As we forgive those who spam against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
But deliver us from Microsoft.
For thine is the search engine,
And the power,
And the glory,
Forever and ever.
Amen.
especially with google jigsaw and the censor ship of "hateful" language
Regular people who use the internet. XD
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