lol

Is James similar in his opinions? I haven't watched much of him but he doesnt seem to express much of this type of opinion.

I don't know

I wanna talk to the chad because

he seems to possess this characteristics

and give him some info of my movement too

I mean, if globalists are pushing down globalization and using it on their favor

Yeah, I heard someone say he is like that but he would have much less support if he expressed it.

maybe we should use it to our favor too

True, seems like a good tactic.

Yes but ofc lowkey

we don't want them to find out

that we are actually in talks

yep, we would be denied by the entire world, I mean we even are if we just express basic conservatism.

Which country are you from @alejator ?

Peru

Interesting, what's the nationalist scene like over there?

There are 2 movements that are important

Have they gained any traction as of lately?

1. Etnocacerism - supremacy of the "copper skinned" race, any other ppl get out of the country

2. Crisolism - crafted by using Dugin's 4PT it takes an identitarian stance on our country but it is very recent

Yes, because of our political situation

both have gained traction

I am part of the 2nd one btw

yeah, fucked those copper skinned guys

This guys are the 1st

but most of the doctrine itself is bullshit

I've heard that the common beliefs surrounding National Socialist Germany are almost polar opposite to what we see here in the US.

only 40% is usable tbh

the issue is that NS was a Germanic thing

it thrived on its past

all fascisms did

Mussolini's Italy also dealt with the issue of Roman Empire

he always protrayed himself as part of that

Spanish Falange with its Empire - represented by the Cross of Borgonia

etc

but there were some here

my country had a fascist party in the 30s

Chile, Brazil, Mexico even Bolivia and Argentina (later on) would also craft their own thing

using fascism as a basis

but fascism doesn't do well in geopolitical terms, for national ones sure

but the world has already changed

How are you still managing to brainwash this guy in to thinking the holocaust didn't happen

I leave for an hour and it's completely fucked again

The Nazis documented this shit themselves

@alejator What about how Zyklon B has a warning agent to make sure that a leak in the containers could be easily smelled if that happened. There is a bill (http://i.imgur.com/N4SBq6W.jpg) by the company Degesch, from 1940s, at the bottom saying " Vorsicht, ohne Warnstoff!" Which means "Caution, no warning substance.". The Germans got it without the warning agent so the jews wouldn't notice. Why would they buy it without the warning agent?

Thousands of documents. present in archives. do you really expect me to believe Jews in a mass conspiracy were able to type out thousands of overlapping documents coming from hundreds of different type writers that each have individual "barcodes" of sorts and very complex internal markings on top of forging signatures? yeah no I call bullshit. There's no way the jews could have gotten in to said archives and perfectly planted them either. Each typewriter also typed differently as well. You are all fucking retarded if you actually believe it didn't happen.

Himmler's 1942 report

Wannsee Conference

Jäger report

Lets not resort to calling them dumbasses like they called us, let's respect their opinion and attempt to show them ours as well.

Goebbels' diaries

Mein Kampf

Mein Kampf (1926 edition)
“”If at the beginning of the war and during the war twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew corrupters of the nation had been subjected to poison gas, such as had to be endured in the field by hundreds of thousands of our very best German workers of all classes and professions, then the sacrifice of millions at the front would not have been in vain.

Heres some samples of some official reports

All of these are high officials reporting incredible death tolls

Not to mention it was common practice for Nazis to not report directly the numbers and killing of the jews. They would commonly talk about it in an abstract manner. They documented all of this incredibly well because they thought this was going to be history when they took over the world. Well it's history alright, but for the wrong reasons.

https://web.archive.org/web/20130311005816/http://www.holocaust-history.org/himmler-poznan/

I also want to mention a very difficult subject before you here, completely openly.
It should be discussed amongst us, and yet, nevertheless, we will never speak about it in public.
Just as we did not hesitate on June 30 to carry out our duty, as ordered, and stand comrades who had failed against the wall and shoot them.
About which we have never spoken, and never will speak.
That was, thank God, a kind of tact natural to us, a foregone conclusion of that tact, that we have never conversed about it amongst ourselves, never spoken about it, everyone shuddered, and everyone was clear that the next time, he would do the same thing again, if it were commanded and necessary.
I am talking about the "Jewish evacuation": the extermination of the Jewish people.
It is one of those things that is easily said. "The Jewish people is being exterminated," every Party member will tell you, "perfectly clear, it's part of our plans, we're eliminating the Jews, exterminating them, ha!, a small matter."
And then along they all come, all the 80 million upright Germans, and each one has his decent Jew. They say: all the others are swine, but here is a first-class Jew.

Direct quote from Heinrich Himmler's speech, mind you small portion.

"when they took over the world"

Good luck disproving an audio recording

now i'm not going to comment on the holocaust

but do you seriously think the Nazis were going for world domination

?

Direct Quote from him: “We will never speak of it publicly . . . I mean the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish race. The Jewish race is being exterminated—that is clear, it’s in our program–elimination of the Jews and we’re doing it, exterminating them . . . This is a page of glory in our history which has never been written and is never to be written . . .”

Henrich Himmler in 1943

Yep

Idc if the nazis were going for world domination or not

Well, they weren't. Lol.

Im just disproving this whole holocaust never happened

its retarted and unfounded their evidence consists of a long boring movie and a newspaper.

retarded

Ok, well when you say something dumb like "the Nazis were going to take over the world" people are going to have a harder time listening to you.

no they thought they were

They were that arrogant

They really weren't.

Essentially what holocaust deniers do is use extremely unreliable sources as their main argument and continually bring up books, novels, interviews, movies made by not one person that is acclaimed at all. I'd think if it were such a strong movement it would have more support from people of importance.

Yes, killing millions of jews because you believe they are less worthy than you is not arrogant at all...

Might as well be

They wanted the majority of Europe

a good chunk of Russia and to unite Germany under one

I am saying they weren't going for world domination.

@liqhts sorry my dude, I was outside with my dog

Ok I will go through that

Have you looked at a political map of 1936?

Give me a sec

It's fine just check up what we wrote.

The UK is MANY times larger than Germany could ever hope to be.

As was France.

Germany projected they would be most effective in 1945. they didn't want the war in 1939.

And the USSR became a massive monstrosity in the years after World War II.

First of all Himmler was a traitor and a larping pagan

Germany wanted more land, yes, but certainly not "world domination."

You will see that later on, in the trials

Thats like saying Manifest Destiny was the US going for world domination.

Its silly.

Second, about Zykkon B

When you use Zykkon B in a sealed room, like those Gas Chambers showed in documentaries

It is impossible to get inside for like 2-3 days

because the chemicals insde the thing are so

mmmmm idk the word, give me a sec

like, they don't dissapear instantly

A traitor?

so, in order to re-use that chamber

That doesn't take away from the validity of his statements

As you said it yourself

you need a "warning agent"

like a descontamination agent

if you don't have that

that room is unusable for at least 3 days

nononono

They did buy Zykkon B

but was used for another purpose

he wouldn't exactly be considered much of a traitor if his information was false and not state secretive.

@Usukkaka A man who claims that "his race comes from the stars" isn't a schizo?

and what kind of traitor doesn't work out a deal to live with the other side? he committed suicide after his trail

the warning agent is an odor, when they used zyklon b to remove lice from clothes and such, so that if a leak from a container were to occur, they would know they needed to get rid of the container or the people handling it would be in trouble. If that was the purpose of buying Zyklon B, then whyd they buy it without the warning agent.

WERE TALKING ABOUT THE NAZIS

He would later on, betray all of what he stood for

THEY ARE SCHIZOS

So, yea, he was a traitor indeed

but he was a schizo

AND a traitor

Because he leaked state information

@liqhts exactly

no, my point is, if they used Zyklon B with the Warning smell for removal of lice, Why would they buy it without the warning smell/agent?

I also fail to see why he maintained his position of power if his views were deemed so radical

it was to get rid of the lice which carried the Typhus

they wanted to use the one without the warning smell so they could kill unsuspecting jews.

and other bacteria

Mmmmmmm not exactly

as we were talking before of mustard gas

So what is the purpose of buying it without the warning agent?

there could have been uses such as - weaponize it

against the soviets

chemical warfare was illegal.

and so was raping women POW

but soviets didn't care

Geneva convention was in place at this point. Hitler wouldn't dare use it against the soviets

so, why should they?

Because once you use chemicals

The enemy uses them back

zyklon b takes 20 minutes to kill someone and lasts for a couple of hours, would they have used mass amounts of it to kill the soviets?

It was as close to MAD as you could get pre cold war

More as an infiltration item

They had some contacts from russians

that were against Stalin for a number of reasons

but that's my assumption

also, there were no documents proving that

they learned not to use chemical weapons in ww1 the hard way why do you think they were never used in ww2

there were weaponizing Zykon B again

or if it were, the soviets had it

and never released them, they moved idk how many documents from Vienna

when they invaded it

its hard to make a generalization like that, it would be more predictable that they got zyklon B without the warning agent to use on the millions of jews they held captive.

so, if you ask me, the logical assumption was to use it for the lice

remember, it also affected officers

I don't think lice could detect the warning smell of a gas.

and if you are in a war, you need to really take care of your officers

even if they could what then? do they jump off? isnt that the goal?

I am not sure about that, since that kind of tests are illegal so we cannot know for sure

We can't add lice with typhus to dogs

or rats

or other animals and test Zykkon B

Well what is certain is heinrich's leaks were factual

with agent and without want

to actually know if that is how lice react to it

No proof to contrary.

But the warning agent was used so that the officers could smell it in case it began to leak from the container.

That was the zyklon b used for the lice

Yes and as I said, the other might have been to used as a weapon

it makes perfect sense that they would use zyklon b with the agent removed in the gas chambers.

To this day there are still documents to be declassified on the russian side

The ones on the US and British side

all were declasified

When they will, we will know for sure 100% what was the reasoning

behind getting Zykkon B without warning agent

Hitler never admitted to the extermination of the jews because it was a private thing, that was part of their agenda, to not admit it, but some officers slipped up and admitted such as Himmler.

I don't think there is a use in extermination

of people, remember that this men were really intelligent

My bet is weaponization of the gas

maybe take some jews as test subjects

but we cannot know for sure until the documents on Russian side are totally declassified

there must be a reason why they haven't declassified them yet, wouldn't you agree?

Perhaps soviets would use that info later on

And that is a perfectly logical argument, however I believe it's more likely they bought it in mass to use against unsuspecting jews. If it was for weaponization, why didn't we hear of it being used in the war?

give them to one of their many vassals

maybe they did develop some weapon that we don't know still

but my bet is on weaponization

of the Zykkon B

Idk considering I gave you several sources of high officials killing jews

I mean I don't deny that some officers did kill jews

that did happen

What amount is the question you might be asking

Probably used the gas for that. In combination with witness reports and the presence of gas chambers still there.

But the issue with gas chambers is that

you would have to release once again the polish document

which disproves that hypothesis

disavows*

but, could there have been a special room for testing it? Again, my bet is on that

I don't think they would use it for pleasure

No one is that moronic tbh

so they just had large rooms with holes in the roof just to test on some people?

The large room with holes

You mean Auschwitz?

Yes the gas chambers.

That was actually a shower

The holes would be added later on

wait, let me get that footage

the holes were added in 1941

@liqhts watch this one. Again, sorry for the spanish subs but it is in english
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwmqXUEvhQM

The morgue room in Crema/Gas Chamber 1 of the Main Camp was turned into a gas chamber in September 1941. The doors were made air-tight and holes were cut in the roof and capped with wooden chimneys. Crema/Gas Chamber 1 became a test facility for the new method of using Zyklon-B to murder large numbers of human beings at one time. When the method of pouring Zyklon-B through holes in the roof proved to be successful, the design was implemented in Cremas/Gas Chambers 2 and 3 at Auschwitz-Birkenau.

i am watching

However is it not possible that they were trying to hide the rooms as disinfestation rooms just as they were trying to hide the entirety of the final solution plan to the world? Maybe they used this "disinfestation room" as a gas chamber.

After all, Zyklon B does not have to be chemically vaporized for it to work, it only has to be dropped in pellets which will exert the toxic gas.

Anyways, I have to go. I have lots of homework for tomorrow but I look forward to talking more soon.

Idk the "Final Solution" seems to moronic to me tbqh

Check this one too

when you are able to

It is from a jewish historian named David Cole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4FgqKGZM_Q

Again, sorry for the spanish subs

I will watch it when I can, I must get doing my homework now though. Tomorrow I can talk more, Thank you again for not trying to call me names. Thanks for being respectful.

I try to implement what I learned from better men than myself

Don't worry

Thanks for also being objective about the issue

Hitler never admitted to the extermination of the jews because it was a private thing, that was part of their agenda, to not admit it, but some officers slipped up and admitted such as Himmler.

((()))

The final solution was deportation to Palestine

Okay guys, so I created the dischord. I'm not actually planning on attempting to start some party, but I formed it as a place where we can have mostly serious (and hopefully productive) conversations on a wide array of topics. I'm going to create separate channels for discussions on most of these topics: current events, college, business, economics, history, content creation (podcasting, essaying, etc.) and other relevant topics. I hope you'll consider joining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNhdy7VuSZ0

https://www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/markdistefano/the-bbc-has-got-the-guy-who-plays-emperor-palpatine-to?utm_term=.vmyZoLVvbe&__twitter_impression=true

guys what if this is the turning poing

point

everyone in England who listens finally grabs their butter knives and takes down the government and drive the invaders out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK_YEc5HxFA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-4Jd0o-Emw

this is breitbart's logo today. not a parody

Ewwwwww

isn't that breitbart Israel's logo

still gay

oops

u right

yeah I mean they are still zionist shills. More concerning at the moment is the possibility of TPP reemerging

lol apparently a former doorman at trump world tower is alleging that the dahnald fathered a child with one of the maids that worked there

I feel like if trump had bastards the dnc would have fished them out during the actual campaign

big if true

https://twitter.com/esaagar/status/984529470685147139?s=21