mmmmm idk the word, give me a sec

like, they don't dissapear instantly

A traitor?

so, in order to re-use that chamber

That doesn't take away from the validity of his statements

As you said it yourself

you need a "warning agent"

like a descontamination agent

if you don't have that

that room is unusable for at least 3 days

nononono

They did buy Zykkon B

but was used for another purpose

he wouldn't exactly be considered much of a traitor if his information was false and not state secretive.

@Usukkaka A man who claims that "his race comes from the stars" isn't a schizo?

and what kind of traitor doesn't work out a deal to live with the other side? he committed suicide after his trail

the warning agent is an odor, when they used zyklon b to remove lice from clothes and such, so that if a leak from a container were to occur, they would know they needed to get rid of the container or the people handling it would be in trouble. If that was the purpose of buying Zyklon B, then whyd they buy it without the warning agent.

WERE TALKING ABOUT THE NAZIS

He would later on, betray all of what he stood for

THEY ARE SCHIZOS

So, yea, he was a traitor indeed

but he was a schizo

AND a traitor

Because he leaked state information

@liqhts exactly

no, my point is, if they used Zyklon B with the Warning smell for removal of lice, Why would they buy it without the warning smell/agent?

I also fail to see why he maintained his position of power if his views were deemed so radical

it was to get rid of the lice which carried the Typhus

they wanted to use the one without the warning smell so they could kill unsuspecting jews.

and other bacteria

Mmmmmmm not exactly

as we were talking before of mustard gas

So what is the purpose of buying it without the warning agent?

there could have been uses such as - weaponize it

against the soviets

chemical warfare was illegal.

and so was raping women POW

but soviets didn't care

Geneva convention was in place at this point. Hitler wouldn't dare use it against the soviets

so, why should they?

Because once you use chemicals

The enemy uses them back

zyklon b takes 20 minutes to kill someone and lasts for a couple of hours, would they have used mass amounts of it to kill the soviets?

It was as close to MAD as you could get pre cold war

More as an infiltration item

They had some contacts from russians

that were against Stalin for a number of reasons

but that's my assumption

also, there were no documents proving that

they learned not to use chemical weapons in ww1 the hard way why do you think they were never used in ww2

there were weaponizing Zykon B again

or if it were, the soviets had it

and never released them, they moved idk how many documents from Vienna

when they invaded it

its hard to make a generalization like that, it would be more predictable that they got zyklon B without the warning agent to use on the millions of jews they held captive.

so, if you ask me, the logical assumption was to use it for the lice

remember, it also affected officers

I don't think lice could detect the warning smell of a gas.

and if you are in a war, you need to really take care of your officers

even if they could what then? do they jump off? isnt that the goal?

I am not sure about that, since that kind of tests are illegal so we cannot know for sure

We can't add lice with typhus to dogs

or rats

or other animals and test Zykkon B

Well what is certain is heinrich's leaks were factual

with agent and without want

to actually know if that is how lice react to it

No proof to contrary.

But the warning agent was used so that the officers could smell it in case it began to leak from the container.

That was the zyklon b used for the lice

Yes and as I said, the other might have been to used as a weapon

it makes perfect sense that they would use zyklon b with the agent removed in the gas chambers.

To this day there are still documents to be declassified on the russian side

The ones on the US and British side

all were declasified

When they will, we will know for sure 100% what was the reasoning

behind getting Zykkon B without warning agent

Hitler never admitted to the extermination of the jews because it was a private thing, that was part of their agenda, to not admit it, but some officers slipped up and admitted such as Himmler.

I don't think there is a use in extermination

of people, remember that this men were really intelligent

My bet is weaponization of the gas

maybe take some jews as test subjects

but we cannot know for sure until the documents on Russian side are totally declassified

there must be a reason why they haven't declassified them yet, wouldn't you agree?

Perhaps soviets would use that info later on

And that is a perfectly logical argument, however I believe it's more likely they bought it in mass to use against unsuspecting jews. If it was for weaponization, why didn't we hear of it being used in the war?

give them to one of their many vassals

maybe they did develop some weapon that we don't know still

but my bet is on weaponization

of the Zykkon B

Idk considering I gave you several sources of high officials killing jews

I mean I don't deny that some officers did kill jews

that did happen

What amount is the question you might be asking

Probably used the gas for that. In combination with witness reports and the presence of gas chambers still there.

But the issue with gas chambers is that

you would have to release once again the polish document

which disproves that hypothesis

disavows*

but, could there have been a special room for testing it? Again, my bet is on that