again, it isn't about what I personally or the majority even can tolerate

That takes the fun out of it

@ManAnimal

it is about containing the extremes

and you don't realize that the more the LEFT pisses people off, the more those people will support those extremes that would sinces THEM and YOU

@ManAnimal Stop fucking ignoring me

And when I say "marginalize", I mean not accepted as of equivalent value as the alternative in polite society. You do WHATEVER YOU WANT in private. Just as long as it remains taboo.

rules are for those in the middle; they are for the outliers

@ManAnimal Why are you so scared of my question?

Silence you mean?

No fuck that doom

@ManAnimal

And I'm not even saying this needs to be applied to homosexuals

This is a wider principle

@ManAnimal

It's about influencing those that don't know any better

Answer my fucking question

You did earlier

Suggesting it was a good idea

I did as an example

kids are being taught that gay is the normal because your equality comes from SOMEWHERE

It is normal though

mainly the abilty for fathers and men to set terms

saying it wasn;t the worse identity to marginalize, because it's an identity held by few in society

@ManAnimal

It's not like you get turned gay

*magic* looks like i'm gay now

if the standard is 'make room for the strongest' then gays becomes trampled underfoot

it is so easy to turn humans gay though

Don't try to backpeddle now

if the standard is 'make room for the weakest' everntually, we ALL get trampled underfoot

@ManAnimal which assumes gay people are weak

@ManAnimal Please consider this, why don't you?

you'll just keep dilluting Western culture and passiving Western men util Muslims have no one to oppose them

@ManAnimal Why are you being such a twat?

The whole premise of what I say saying is that I don't think we CAN have a perfect society wherein everything that isn't clearly bad is accepted, because we are shit at identifying what has what effect. So it stands to reason that some activities that perhaps don;t deserve the anathema will get it non the less. And as far as activities like that, those engaged in by FEW ppl are less bad to marginalize then common ones.

This is not an argument about homosexuality as such really

true

Oh I see

Homosexuality doesn't even fit then because it's not an activity

He's literally blocked m

Which makes fuck all sense

And accepting bad shit is worse then not accepting ALL good shit.

it isnt. its aboout respect for standards and values

u watched abe lincon vamp hunter now u a tru believer aren't u doom.

AREN"T YOU!

@Jack of Trades now that's epic

if you let one get way with not respecting those values, then no one does

Being attracted to men cannot be marginalized anyway Jack. Showing SYMPTOMS of being attracted to men can be. It's all strictly about activities because we're not mind readers.

a privledged class just abuses tthose not in that class untill the abused REVOLT

It's nice to see how authoritarian people are when it comes to the 'other'

what is even happening

Everyone is authoritarian

jack is being obtuse

are you calling gay people obtuse

confusing tradition and values for oppression

But tell me where it is that I'm wrong

while perhaps gay tends to be obtuse, no; i used 'is being' for a reason

If you suppress expression you suppress the person

yes

we do tha tall the time

and THANK GOD

imagine if ppl acted on all their desires

@ManAnimal i'm well aware

And I'm saying for homosexuality that is wrong

Civilization is a set of restrictions

Jack demonstrates the inability to relate to the concerns and values of those that aren't like him

https://twitter.com/CEOErickHayden/status/1155943479991623680

https://youtu.be/kb_Ufwhqiz8

MA that is the most ironic thing you've ever typed

you cannot treat children like adults, JAck and you speak of these things as if EVERYONE was an adult

I really don't

I just apply same standards

adults are entitled to their opinion and make up their own mind

children are easily influenced

I don't think heterosexual couples are somehow more virtuous than homosexual ones

anyone who says "entitled to their opinion" is a prick

Please show me how you turn children gay

It's literally never happened

I do tend to agree Jack, tha tis why I framed it as a potential lesser evil. If the alternative is to allow the political gays to give hormone treatment to kids, I'm sorry, but your comfort takes the back seat on that one fam. As I said: it's about choosing lesser evils, because that's all there is to social policy anyway - trade offs.

that remains to be seen

this was hit on in some vids i saw recently ..... mental age

@JackH670 by showing them throbbing hard **cocks**

Nah fuck this absolutist shite

you cannot meaure 'the effect on society ' in a single generation

You can't turn people gay

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381916320423215104/605350305273741314/image0.jpg

and while the nuclear family has milenia of precendance

Ricardo can turn me gay

gays being normalized is fairly new

perfectly balanced as all things should be

we cannot say that gay parents do not have any effect on raiseing boys

MA if you can turn gay, why dont you turn and go back again

hormone treatment for kids less of a "big gay" thing, and more of a "I think my 3 year old **isnt** a dumbass for some reason" thing

because the overall 'masculity' standard has been reduced as well

GMAE is Gay??????? <:thunk:462282216467333140>

fatherless homes compared to gay parents

I turned my ex boyfriend gay

not much of a yardstick

You do realise you can have extremely masculine gays

@JackH670 checkmate, atheist

a boy raised by two gay parents is only measured against the feminst standard

It's also about the entropy of existing social norms. There are certain OLD traditions that need to be broken to accept fags (which is different to tolerate, most places tolerated fags for most of history). And deleting old social institutions willy nilly is foolish. It may not have bad outcomes, but it also may cost us dearly.

Gay guys are just as varied as straight ones, just the stereotypical ones are more vocal

EXACTLY

very good point

traditions and values have inertia

there is a very simple answer to this whole issue

Please don't try to apply physics to sociology

gays>fags

It's a metaphor

fagggit

they become important to pass on because their parents found them important

break the inertia and society becomes unstable

is this what we have become

Look killer

society says i can love cock now

and if i dont

Is this the literal meme gay = societal collapse argument

im a homophobic bigot

so

Please tell me this isn't that lame argument

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/476902480605741057/605499715743776798/Screenshot_20190711-0851262.jpg @JackH670

@Spooky Melon I guess

my argument

I don have a problem with homosexuals at all. I do have a problem with flamboyant fags who assert their cultural hegemony in public displays of indecency that would condemn any other group to ridicule if they engaged in them.

gays require the rules be softened to accomidate them , they fail to realize that those rules also kept pedos and murders in check

MA slippery slope fallacy

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM thats the difference of big gay and a faggot

big gay a-ok

fags need to be executed

Why are we thot posting

@Weez why are you spamming some rich cunt

self.exe

@Weez could u put someone better lookin

beleiving that everyon will consider you a monster if you engage in certain behaviour is a powerful deterent when it comes to curtailing the dark impulse

She's not a thot.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598761542200197120/605571061257601045/1564448151784.png WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS CHANDELIER

and we REMOVED that deterent

She is

WHY

Look at this

WHOLESOME

is it in front of the door

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598761542200197120/605571061257601045/1564448151784.png THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE

@Weez eh

nice softballs

homosexuals are fine, it's literally just a weird way you like to have sex. Who cares, no kids are involved anyway... Faggots promote a value system and that system cannot coexist with any traditional set o public morals, so should be anihilated

WILSON!

(Castaway ref)

Do you want me to post a couple guys Jack?

agreed doom; just another kink

wilson was gay

I don't want to leave you out

If you try to fuck with my equal rights I won't be pleased

Also: @ManAnimal @JackH670 u two REALLY need to get a room.

@JackH670

Civil war when

Nah fuck him

REE

"fuck him"
EXACTLY

what do you mean by "equal rights"?

tom hanks made wilson gay ... or else

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM So gay uncle that's helpful with the family is good

@Weez

whats up with this foot

answer me

but it's the interference with the gender roles and how those roles are vital to boys and girls knowing what to expect form each other and what is realistic

But gay drag queen uncle who does meth and borrows money is bad

>HE'S NEVER SEEN STOCKINGS

>NEVER

>SEEN

incels don't know what to expect

>STOCKINGS

@Jack of Trades i mean yes, but that wasn;t quite my point

these are the most weak sauce skin tone stockings ever

feminists have unrealistic exppectations

Equal rights under the law for marriage, age of consent etc

normally having clear targets normalizes this

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM I simplified and got the important parts

the only good stockings are white and black

*Nice.*

@Weez answer this

only GOOD stocking are those crumbled in a pile on the way to my bed, next to her underwear

Dress looks great on her; alot better on my floor

Age of consent I have no problem with. Marriage doesn;t exists as far as I am concerned, the institution died about 3 generations ago, so sure, you can have "marriage", but it's not real marriage tbh. You can't have real marriage by definition because that is a child rearing social institution, and u don;t breed.

now this is some political conversation

MA is an incel confirmed

marriage will always exist

Why is it that culturally right leaning people commit more violence than those on the left?

<:thunk:462282216467333140>

the concept of marriage has been bastardized

weez dodges questions i see

I don't give a fuck what it means religiously, if straights get benefits from it governmentally, we're entitled to the same

wait a second

cause again, marriage relies on common and realistic expectations

I never mentionned religion

@JackH670

why wont the government pay for my testosterone pills?

neither did i

I was talking in sociological terms

@Weez Testosterone

wack

@Spooky Melon what country you in

US

Lmao

marriage is simply the agreement that the relationship is more important than the individuals

why wont the government pay for breast implants

answer me

@Jack of Trades Testosterone is bad.

It's in pins why

a married person doesn't concede because they must or they want to but because there is something MORE important

The benefits are granted as a way to encourage the pro social behavior of forming a family unit that encourages the upbringing of a successful next generation. Gay marriage does not do that, so no benefits I'm afraid. Unless the reasoning for the benefits applying in the 1st place is somehow different.

usually a family

exactly

gay marriage is legal ONLY

but it isn't community based

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598761542200197120/601779559980859392/nigyro.png delete this nsfw

This totally ignores couples who refuse to procreate or can't

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM Can that not be done through adoption?

married couples are the bulding block of communities which protect values

you're a homophode or you're a soyboy cuck this what i'm getting from this now

the only couples who can't procreate are cowards

MA what straight marriage is community based lets be real

I have a hard time understanding why homosexuals are even interested in marriage being legalised, other then because they wish cultural

gay couples don't do this and frankly few modern fem couples do either

and maybe

if you can't procreate

**you should adopt**

Cultural is important, however there's legal benefits to it

Yes, it ignores the couples that refuse or can't procreate. That is a problem with the legislation and or its implementation. Not an argument to make the problem even further reaching.

Doom , cause they are intrinsically female. They don't care about something unless someone ELSE has it and no one can be allowed to have something they don't have

well if you refuse to have children, thats a good thing

It's a problem with your procreation argument

it makes you leave the gene pool

The initial idea was to favorise procreation

not everyone does