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the chinese invaded japland
and got raped
even an empress
when?
1200s?
something like that
Pro tip: china never invaded japan
you guys sound like chinese and japanese right now, how heated this is getting
lol
retard, mongolians invaded japan in 1200
not china
then later on hideyoshi invaded korea
mongols
ruled
learn your history
china
dude
yes, but mongolians are not chinese
r u retarded
MONGORIANS INVADED JAPAN IN 1200, OHHHH SO KA
who do you think was in their armies
you think japs cant tell the different between mongolians and chinese?
mongols were china
at that time
not at the time
because they were one and the same
it would take another 100 years before they became sinoized
they arent
bro
and theyve fought over korea for a bunch too
mongolian armies invaded Japan
Not china
Yeah, in the 1800's
dude
but that's not the same as hating eachother
toyotomi hideyoshi
was
in the fucking
Unless you mean hideyoshi's inavsion
but
just because there's a war doesnt mean they hate eachother
150ss
it was a major war and they were sea sawing
then later the japs became more powerful
while the chinese weakned
and they fought more
just because china still produces videos of ebil japanese soldiers laughing menacingly as they shoot children
1592-1598.
ye
they invaded korea
@What Would Jack Conte Do? it's something like 95% of their content IIRC
not china
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korea
got defended
by
Korea was a vassal state of Korea IIRC
the chines
yeah
a proxy war
or....tributary
bro
korea was a vassal state of china
lol
yeah, tributary state
but u srsly think china hated japan cuz of it?
im not denying that china and japan fought
but there was no deep running hatred
@Polekov China actually contributed to the fighting in that war
that is a modern thing
Yes i fucking know
im not denying that they fought
but you retards are like
It's not a proxy war then
"china and japan hated eachother for thousands of years"
which is not true
that shit is modern
which was caused by the invasions of manchuria and later mainland china
and the warcrimes comitted
Luci said hundreds not thousands.
ok, you're arguing over minor shit now
my point is, the deep hatred is modern
not before 100 years ago
yeah, china and japan fought eachother before
that doesn't mean they hated eachother
again, japan viewed china as a big brother until the industrial era
and even then, they stilled recognized their cultural influence
considering that one of japan's writing systems are literally chinese characters
its 30% not 95%!! reee
like the japanese arent stupid
they know history
yeah, japan's culture was defined by china until capitalism
```and theyve had a mutual hatred for hundreds of years```
I also said hundreds of years ago:
```They fought China in Korea 100s of years ago```
i'm saying
less than 100 years ago
even when japan took korea from china
japan industrialized starting in 1860s
so 1800s
they didnt *hate* the chinese
You said one or both of us said THOUSANDS of years
yeah, but the hatred didnt start in the industrial era
Trotsky, ok, i retract that
is the argument that japan started the hatred?
again, you're arguing over minor shit
no
im sure there were incidents of hatred in ancient times
The argument is that japan and china really hated eachother since medieval times
im saying it started in the 30's
just going off probability
suffice to say
japs are based
No no , british
chinks are worthless
they are saying
they had a nationalistic hatred of eachother since medieval times
hatred started in 1890s
like, absolute worst hatred
with invasion and conquest of korea
eh not rly
because that was just another war
China hates japan because of the war crimes
not because of the other invasions
because they literally wiped cities off of the map
For the most part, they hate Japan for the War Crimes in the 1930s
yeah
exactly
fair enuf
they didnt truly hate eachother until then
yeah, they fought
but that's not hatred
It wasn't long-lasting hatred, to our knowledge
because japan was also heavily influenced by China since ancient times
its not the deep seeded propagandistic, total war level hatred is what you're saying
no, it's folly to call it hatred
it's not like france vs germany
u cannot use european models in east asia
China was literally the center of Asia forever, and every surrounding nation was its bitch
with a few exceptions during certain times
it would be more like sweden vs russia
like mongolians, and japan that 1 time
and ofc you can use european models lol
~~The Japs used Bone Arrows until they met the Chinese~~
(until modern times)
japan and china had a war in the 1600s
yeah i know
that 1 time
but that's the exception
japan didnt kowtow to china
not the rule
this was after japan had been in chaos for over a century (sengoku jidai) and china couldn't control it
it did for most of it's history : P
again
im not denying that they fought
pre sengoku history?
they were an isolationist empire and couldnt care less about the chinks lol
Luci it kinda did kowtow to China tbf
but for most of their history, japan was a chinese tributary state
Sort of
not as tributary as korea
>sort of
but they were heavily influenced
the heiian period was the climax of japanese and chinese relations
would you say?
They pretty much copied the Chinese language and made some modifications
thats just because they had the same ancestors
not because they were a chinese vassal
chinese language is very old
Japan was a Chinese tributary?
So much bykksht
japan and china traded
thatd be like saying greece was a phoenician vassal for using its alphabet
I think it's more like a little kid copying an adult
Being stared here
they didn't war as often as france and germany, because they were separated by sea
If all you got is ignorance
kind of like england and france
The. Itโs k good
sweden and russia
also japan has a lot more storms than china
england and france is a more or less unique relationship
so china didn't bother colonizing japan
or annexing it
japan could assert independence
Japan helped pirates attack China for a few hundred years (The Wokou) iirc
like they could lol
yeah, because it's an island and shit
the chinese sucked due
there wasn't a rivalry, because japan couldn't match the power of china
they lost in vietnam
not until industrialization tipped the scales
they lost in manchuria
But, they still were heavily influenced by china, right
like
anyway, that's the reason
again
it has to do with geography
literally
one of their writing systems is ltierally chinese characters
anyone who trades
with another nation
meanwhile, france and germany were similar in power, so they became rivals
is influenced by them
dude
Yes but it's one sided
fucking france
also either one invading the other was easy
uses the same lphabet
due to landlockage
as germany
so fucking what
China influenced Japan WAY MORE than vice versa
they descend from a common ancestor
again, stop making comparisons to europe
they are not the same
they are the same
hahaha
because rome was the china equivalent
guys, just listen to what i said
Yea japan is influenced a lot by China
you're actually retarded
china had 10 times the population of japan
and the other states adopted its alphabet
it doesnt have an alphabet
you nitwit
so china naturally had more influence, they produced more of everything
Have you guys seen this shit?
oh boi
pictographic language whatever the fuck you want to call it lol
yes, japan was HEAVILY influenced by china
writing system
the reverse isnt true
what are we screaming at each other for today?
and guess what
a similar situation has happened
to other nations
oh my
China influencing Japan @Coolitic
including
in europe!
Theyโre afraid of admitting they like the homosexual
uhh
Thatโs pretty much it
doubt
but thats just because nations adopt language very easily
Sweden is a shit nation
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