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2019-08-22 17:52:22 UTC

Its not only islam

2019-08-22 17:52:30 UTC

This is about demographics

2019-08-22 17:55:00 UTC

yeah i mean look at Brimmigham its barely English, the situation is getting worse i think more Muslims will get attacked by non - Muslims unless something changes

2019-08-22 17:55:44 UTC

You're delineating purely along muslim and non-muslim

2019-08-22 17:56:03 UTC

You said it; English

2019-08-22 17:57:17 UTC

yeah i was also trying to get at the fact its also a demographical issue to

2019-08-22 17:58:23 UTC

There are two ways to deal with that

2019-08-22 17:58:31 UTC

or a combination of both techniques

2019-08-22 17:58:32 UTC

like its not just islam but its also the fact that if we continue along with this trend the native English will become the minority

2019-08-22 17:58:38 UTC

Yes

2019-08-22 17:58:44 UTC

Are you in England mate?

2019-08-22 17:58:46 UTC

yep

2019-08-22 17:58:58 UTC

How would you describe yourself politically?

2019-08-22 17:59:19 UTC

@SPOOKY Phil, Ruler of Heck I dont think this is a result of that either, as too the solution to this, as far as i know immigration to the Eu is already very restrictive. I dont really see how it could become even more closed to be honest.

2019-08-22 17:59:39 UTC

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2019-08-22 18:00:03 UTC

well if we are talking about a governmental system i would say am a monarchist but i consider myself a socially a classical liberal

2019-08-22 18:00:05 UTC

>Hundreds of thousands immigrating to the isles

2019-08-22 18:00:39 UTC

Would you not say youre more nationalist?

2019-08-22 18:00:54 UTC

oh yeah am also a nationalist

2019-08-22 18:01:28 UTC

As to the ban on face veils, my country has recently implented a full ban on such covers. And though i was very conflicted about it, I now reluctanly support such a ban in the public space, government buildings, public transit etc.

2019-08-22 18:01:46 UTC

I still think its a difficult choise

2019-08-22 18:02:32 UTC

It required me to ask some hard questions about what i value more

2019-08-22 18:03:05 UTC

@tea_in_space are you available to VC for like 5 mins

2019-08-22 18:03:20 UTC

i think there should be a ban on face veils because such clothing like the burka for example should not be normalised

2019-08-22 18:03:32 UTC

sorry mate but no i might be able to later @Lêohte

2019-08-22 18:03:38 UTC

Secularism is big gay IMO

2019-08-22 18:03:42 UTC

Alright fella

2019-08-22 18:05:07 UTC

i think there needs to be a balance between secularism and religion so the best way to do so is a monarchy (depending on were it is)

2019-08-22 18:06:01 UTC

The monarchy has been inextricably linked to a denomination of Christianity

2019-08-22 18:06:10 UTC

Thats its moral backbone

2019-08-22 18:06:28 UTC

Power ordained by the creator

2019-08-22 18:06:48 UTC

I'm not sure how it would be framed otherwise (Monarchy)

2019-08-22 18:06:57 UTC

Atheists are soulless creatures

2019-08-22 18:17:19 UTC

well ignore what i just said then

2019-08-22 20:54:39 UTC

@Quicksilver053 It's too late for that

2019-08-22 20:54:52 UTC

The US is already on an irreversible track

2019-08-22 20:54:59 UTC

The only solution is secession

2019-08-22 22:02:40 UTC

I always believe it's never too late to come back. I just don't know if other people can see that.

2019-08-22 22:07:26 UTC

Ford is a faggot who follows retards like Stefan Molyneux

2019-08-22 22:07:37 UTC

ofc he's gonna be edgy and pretend like that makes him "red-pilled"

2019-08-22 22:18:23 UTC

Gotta pray that gay away <:smugay:593502151758708776>

2019-08-22 23:50:50 UTC

well, at least he's addressing it

2019-08-22 23:50:53 UTC

so let's see how he does

2019-08-23 00:30:31 UTC

iVe aLwAyS sAiD a CoNvErSaTiOn Is tHe ApPrOpRiAtE wAy To dEaL wItH cOnTrOvErSiAl CoMmEnTs

2019-08-23 00:30:59 UTC

Sure, buddy.

2019-08-23 03:34:59 UTC

>caving to pressure from *Reset Era* of all places

2019-08-23 05:51:49 UTC

@Wizard_of_The_West Depends on what's the goal

2019-08-23 05:52:10 UTC

What @Quicksilver053 said was to maintain a White Super-majority in the US

2019-08-23 05:52:28 UTC

Which is near impossible given the current trajectory we're in

2019-08-23 05:52:59 UTC

At least without taking some drastic steps, which also seems near impossible

2019-08-23 05:53:51 UTC

In any case, a Civil War is inevitable

2019-08-23 05:59:10 UTC

The rule of what war *is* is even in flux at the moment.. who's to say we're not in such a struggle at the moment.

2019-08-23 06:05:34 UTC

The drastic measure would basically be "just close the border, feget"

2019-08-23 06:06:02 UTC

most of the increase in non-white population is due to immigration, rather than long term births

2019-08-23 06:06:16 UTC

birth rates of new arrivals tend to decline after a couple generations

2019-08-23 06:06:21 UTC

The only candidate which even has policies addressing such concerns is Augustus Sol Invictus, who is running for 2020 Republican Candidacy

2019-08-23 06:06:29 UTC

A few of his campaign policies include
1) Ending the Federal Reserve
2) Building a complete southern wall in the first 100 days
3) Breaking up Silicon Valley
4) Repealing the Hart Celler Immigration Act of 1965 and replacing it with 1790 Naturalization Act (Only free white people of good character may become citizens)

2019-08-23 06:06:32 UTC

and the highest native birth rates long term, are from conservative whites, iirc

2019-08-23 06:06:37 UTC

don't close the border, open it to europeans :^)

2019-08-23 06:07:10 UTC

And the chance of him getting anywhere near any sort of power in the current status quo is 0.00000001%

2019-08-23 06:07:11 UTC

why would I want to flood the US with europeans who let anti-white policies win in europe, and then had the gall to flee from it, instead of fighting it?

2019-08-23 06:07:19 UTC

Define "Europeans" at this time. XD

2019-08-23 06:07:38 UTC

i mean american whites also "let" anti-white policies win in america

2019-08-23 06:07:53 UTC

augustus is controlled opposition, even if he himself doesn't know it

2019-08-23 06:08:00 UTC

also european immigrants would probably come moreso from eastern europe

2019-08-23 06:08:08 UTC

he's bankrolled by the same dude who pushed the charlottesville clusterfuck

2019-08-23 06:09:12 UTC

I don't really want the the american whites who let anti-white policies win in america to be here either, but they already are. And it's a better ratio than adding even *more* of them.

2019-08-23 06:09:33 UTC

We would need a pretty selective filter for what kind of europeans will be allowed if we do this.

2019-08-23 06:09:52 UTC

what do you mean

2019-08-23 06:09:55 UTC

you're one of them

2019-08-23 06:09:59 UTC

I'm thinking a generation cool down is what's needed.

2019-08-23 06:10:13 UTC

And it can't only select for those with the balls to defend america from demographic replacement, but also for some of the values which already were selected for in americans by prior generations, otherwise we're just planting the seeds for future political strife.

2019-08-23 06:10:25 UTC

"Look, we're just closing immigration into the US for 50 years. Deal with it."

2019-08-23 06:10:55 UTC

That's probably closer to the best strategy, though I wouldn't' close it for 50. Probably something more like 10 or 15.

2019-08-23 06:11:03 UTC

I'm not saying it's *right*, but it'll work.

2019-08-23 06:11:06 UTC

After which we can reorganize new criteria

2019-08-23 06:11:11 UTC

you're going to have less strife than if you maintain a situation without a white supermajority

2019-08-23 06:11:26 UTC

Okay, it's reasonable enough to reduce it down to a decade or two.

2019-08-23 06:11:46 UTC

Not having a white supermajority matters less if you reduce the power of the federal government.

2019-08-23 06:11:58 UTC

Even many on the "right" are cucks on such issues

2019-08-23 06:12:02 UTC

See this

2019-08-23 06:12:20 UTC

ending birthright citizenship is a great idea, tbh

2019-08-23 06:12:24 UTC

I still don't agree that culture and race are intrinsically linked.

2019-08-23 06:12:46 UTC

>Trump says administration looking 'seriously' at ending birthright citizenship
>lolberts and neocons flood the comments vehemently opposing it

2019-08-23 06:12:50 UTC

reduce the power of the federal government how

2019-08-23 06:12:53 UTC

they're not inseparable, but traits which are inherited from one can inform the other

2019-08-23 06:13:04 UTC

*However*, the cultural corruption via mass immigration is notable and needs to be dealt with.

2019-08-23 06:13:21 UTC

So, we end up reaching the same conclusion from different premises.

2019-08-23 06:13:32 UTC

What even is a meaningful interpretation of culture without kinship

2019-08-23 06:13:34 UTC

LP and big umbrella libertarians are controlled opposition

2019-08-23 06:13:55 UTC

Murry Rothbard once said, the function of the LP is basically a containment area for all the worst libertarians.

2019-08-23 06:14:00 UTC

Kinship doesn't mean blood/ethnic relations.

2019-08-23 06:14:14 UTC

Start treating it as leadership for libertarians, and libertarianism is fucked

2019-08-23 06:14:31 UTC

Learned that one by experience in the military, and hard knocks.

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