I want that to remain. It means there is power and they have power in democratic process. And it means,..... NO IMAMS ALLOWED

So, no ... America is a sitting duck.

well then lets be very clear, you're for christian sharia

you don't believe in secular liberal democracy whatsoever

I am for the culling of Muslim culture.

We need a cap

you might as well call to be a theocracy

Now, if you consider me as more theocratic then who cares . Islam doesn't belong in the UK. It's about to get booted out.

The powers and control is about to be give back to the UK. They will stamp it out.

you want a religion, a stringent ideology of moral arbitration and dogma, to rule you

how are you any different from a muslim

All the Muslim looking people in Parliament, is just a charade ... These people have already swore an oath to the CHURCH OF ENGLAND.

So, I want rid of these Islamic pricks.

I think I made my intentions clear. And I wouldn't need to use force either. I would do it through voting. No different to what they are doing.

It means people can distinguish between it and it means people get to choose.

translate all of what you just said into arabic and there's no functional difference between you and an Imam

I want the church of England in control to prevent them from getting in.

You're an unabashed theocrat

Full stop.

England has a religion. And it's Anglican.

Simple as that.

England can have a religion, that's not in dispute

They have their own countries and so they need to go back to the..

Them.

said religion, nor any other, has any business being the state

That's the segregation part and I am for it . I want the church of England to be able to teach children in schools again because it was peaceful. I want all the rest of them who do not comply, to leave.

Simple as that. It's going to happen as well.

Then I really must wonder why you spoke so ill of Thatcher earlier

I sound like my mother, and she made sense. All that history and all that culture. Dissolved over stupid people.

you can have history and culture without becoming christian saudi arabia

This conversation is going to be over in 5 minutes. Because extremism comes from both sides . I realise that at the moment , Islam produces more Islamic extremists per capita.

And the far right is always in countries without a huge religious tie in politics. It makes people feel uneasy. For example , New Zealand, who need to have their own indegenious culture taught not the church of England or such the likes .... They need their own historical culture taught in schools. I think that would balance it out and make it fairer for them.

Places like Australia also have started to produce, a cult of far right ambitious gun twoting wannabes. Australia has no indegenious religious power or identity in politics. It has no religion in control.

If one takes over , then extremism will prevail.

The religion helps with people's identification. It helps with their culture and history.

What a phenomenal red herring! Yes, having a government that doesn't appease extremists tends to agitate said extremeists. the answer isn't to just hand them the fucking reigns of power from the start

So, fuck Islam it serves no place and doesn't belong in those countries either.

you have seriously lost the fucking plot, m8

Well, I want the Church of England to remain in power because so far it's neck and neck with extremism but Islam creates the most damage.

islam is incompatible with the west

Lost the plot. I have just heard that another country, has fallen prey to extremist ideology of the far left. Wanting to kill Muslims to get rid of them. The church, being in control reduces their intentions.

Straight up it's worked for this long. I just don't agree with it for places like Australia and New Zealand.

You can't argue with that rationale.
>There are three options. One is the most evil, the second one is the second greatest evil, the third is the best.
>You must pick the second greatest evil, because it's not the most evil, and ignore the third option.

he's honestly just a partisan theocrat. he's not fighting against muslims to protect the country, he's fighting to protect his team's turf

Agreed

The indegenious people in Australia and New Zealand BV should have their own religious leaders involved in the governing of their countries to prevent their cultural heritage being killed off. The same for the Sami people and the pagans. I am for it I just want people to get it through their thick skulls that a mosque doesn't belong in those countries either.

with that, I duely mourn the extra hour of sleep I lost trying to reason with him, and bid everyone a good night

Good night.

Good morning

xD

Good day

Yeah this debate was intense and I liked it. I agree with him on one hand but on the other, it's not working. You cannot favour one over the other. If that's a countries history and they have been their for over 100 years or 1000 year's. You shouldn't mess with the state of play and try to dominate. At the moment we are seeing Islam, try to dominate and it's creating far left extremists or far right one's. Both of which , are easy to become. I think every country is entitled to keep its religious identity.

The culture of old isn't as useful anymore as it used to be, things are changing, and it's not just because of progressivism, it's also because of technological and scientific progress. Preserving it will only cause a cultural rift between the elite and the people. It would lead to large scale civil disobedience until a revolution happens. It would alienate people.

It's not my fault if the religious indegenious leaders in NZ and Australia haven't faught for their position in government. But it is about time they did, to protect land and restore peace without this fraction.

We can teach history, but we shouldn't be so blind to think western culture isn't going to continue to change.

It doesn't matter if technology advances. People's needs are to reconnect to their own identity . Islam is breaching that boundary and is actually playing a destructive path on the plight of people's choices and identification.n

Technological change also changes people's identity

Islam is not the threat in and of itself. Open borders are the threat.

No it needs to reform and try and go back to paganism to be honest with you. The other religious leaders of that need to take a strong hold and kick the islamification of people out. I look at jihadi Jack and I worry.

Jihadi Jack was also trapped into a world through technology.

The already present Muslims in the west aren't changing our culture significantly. Open borders are doing that.

Then he became a psycho killer

If we close the flood gates, the west will be just fine.

You need to learn about military history if you want to understand why border control is the true solution

The borders are about to close and people's religious identity will be more stable, helping people to choose.

The borders aren't about to close at all, no

Italy will be opening its borders

Greece and France are a total shitshow

@ETBrooD No thanks . I want this done democratically and for people to understand their spiritual identity in the land they are in.

"No thanks" to what?

France was already over crowded with Islamists . I want this done in a democratic intertwined way where religious leaders identify their role and establish a blanket religious hold on all of those states : France , Italy and Spain. I want the Catholic church to regain their people's trusts or, for the French to find their own religion which is based on Catholic churches demonation, like the rest of the eastern block have done.

Greece have the orthodox church.

Simple no to that

They are providing stability in that region. It's only a matter of time before they will keep saying no to the Muslims

If Christianity takes this control over Europe again, I'll be fighting them with my heart and soul and my life

They will eventually and they have began to enforce that power.

They will do this over my dead body

Europe is too precious to be handed to Christian authoritarians

They will restore power and grant people freedom of choice again. It's written in the Bible. They can't disapate freedom of choice.n

They will oppress Europe and send it right back into medieval times

I will not stand for that

Islam doesn't belong in Europe.

Simple as that

Christianity doesn't belong in Europe either

I will never surrender to Christianity, I will only ally with Christians to fight against Islam

Pagans haven't faught hard enough. To regain control. They have allowed Islam to flourish in parts and seen people not take control of their own quality of life.

That's not us who did this

You're making a blanket statement that is just false

You don't surrender to Christianity. If you're English, they are already in your countries house of lords.

They have power.

I'm not English, thank God

The same for Italy

The same for Greece

Yeah, and that's why these countries suck so much

And Greece will fight back.

You don't seem to realize

More or less half of the Christian population is ok with Islam

It's the only way because Islam will creep back in.

You think Christianity is anti-Islam? That's only certain scholars

Well that's because people are dim witted and need re-education

Wrong