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2019-11-23 19:13:46 UTC

It's a constituency

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ldem split vote

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Rip

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State capitalist @MikuChan

2019-11-23 19:14:02 UTC

Labour might finally be wiped out as a party

2019-11-23 19:14:15 UTC

I hope they are

2019-11-23 19:14:15 UTC

And replaced by the Lib Dems's

2019-11-23 19:14:16 UTC

I got misled

2019-11-23 19:14:22 UTC

It's not london city

2019-11-23 19:14:25 UTC

It's a constituency

2019-11-23 19:14:27 UTC

No not the lib dems

2019-11-23 19:14:27 UTC

Rip

2019-11-23 19:14:29 UTC

God no

2019-11-23 19:14:50 UTC

Apparently this is the one Chuka Umunna is targetting

2019-11-23 19:14:50 UTC

The Lib Dems are better then Labour economically at least

2019-11-23 19:14:58 UTC

About as bad Socially though

2019-11-23 19:15:20 UTC

I think the Lib Dems pledged to get rid of the 'Pink Tax' in their manifesto

2019-11-23 19:15:31 UTC

I cant forgive them for the fuckkery they made

2019-11-23 19:16:13 UTC

At least if the Lib Dems ever win they will only have awful social policies and they won't bankrupt the country while implementing them as Labour would

2019-11-23 19:16:43 UTC

I'd prefer for the old Liberal Party to take over though

2019-11-23 19:16:52 UTC

Or maybe the SDP

2019-11-23 19:17:44 UTC

Ideally a nationalist driven government with long term security in NHS front line services, to bring the housing crisis to a halt and also i would like to see our industries brought back/ rejuvenated.

2019-11-23 19:17:54 UTC

venezuela

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is not capitalist

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at all

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xd]

2019-11-23 19:18:09 UTC

Maduro is a socialist dictator

2019-11-23 19:18:33 UTC

If it where up to me id stick all of the politicians on a boat take it out to sea and let the sharks eat them, or stick them on an area with polar bear

2019-11-23 19:18:38 UTC

No he is actually a State Capitalist according to leftists @MikuChan

2019-11-23 19:18:44 UTC

#polarbearslivesmatter

2019-11-23 19:18:45 UTC

Along with the Soviet Union

2019-11-23 19:18:46 UTC

it literally has said "expropriate this"

2019-11-23 19:18:52 UTC

xd

2019-11-23 19:18:56 UTC

which is basically

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nationalise this

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PDVSA - venezuela's oil firm

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is bankrupt

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as fuck

2019-11-23 19:19:26 UTC

Socialists/communists its all the same

2019-11-23 19:19:32 UTC

Apparently the State controlling everything is actually State Capitalism

2019-11-23 19:19:33 UTC

not quite

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one leads to the other

2019-11-23 19:19:42 UTC

but not quite the same

2019-11-23 19:19:43 UTC

Mind you they have never truly been tried

2019-11-23 19:19:57 UTC

Technically they haven't

2019-11-23 19:20:05 UTC

for it to be capitalism, there actually needs to be private business

2019-11-23 19:20:10 UTC

o wait

2019-11-23 19:20:18 UTC

But's that's like saying Nazism hasn't been tried because we don't live in a jew free world yet

2019-11-23 19:20:25 UTC

venezuela nationalised LITERALLY everything

2019-11-23 19:20:42 UTC

I watched an interview with Tommy Sheridan and the case he put socialism on a marxist basis evolves into communism

2019-11-23 19:20:53 UTC

Chilling stuff the naivety of the man really

2019-11-23 19:20:54 UTC

The Socialist Party uses the State Capitalist argument all the time

2019-11-23 19:21:01 UTC

Let's make me pm tbh

2019-11-23 19:21:03 UTC

i do think the political spectrum

2019-11-23 19:21:10 UTC

is a little wrong.

2019-11-23 19:21:12 UTC

in some senses

2019-11-23 19:21:28 UTC

They essentially just redefined Communist leaders nationalising everything as actually being State Capitalism

2019-11-23 19:21:36 UTC

Nazi's were socialists. which on the compass socialism is left wing.

2019-11-23 19:21:44 UTC

Only partially

2019-11-23 19:21:54 UTC

ye but still

2019-11-23 19:22:08 UTC

They are essentially a bit of both

2019-11-23 19:22:16 UTC

Nationalism and Socialism

2019-11-23 19:22:23 UTC

the political spectrum is only used because we use it to debunk the leftie loons who use it as gospel

2019-11-23 19:22:33 UTC

Germans where against Capitalism and Communism

2019-11-23 19:23:12 UTC

arguable

2019-11-23 19:23:18 UTC

At least thats the case that Dennis Law puts forward in his documentaries - The Greatest Story Never Told & Communism By The Back Door.

2019-11-23 19:23:24 UTC

Great watches for me personally

2019-11-23 19:23:29 UTC

But each to their own

2019-11-23 19:23:43 UTC

Many people who funded the Nazis supported Capitalism

2019-11-23 19:23:51 UTC

They just opposed the Communists more

2019-11-23 19:24:06 UTC

can nazism be realistically be called

2019-11-23 19:24:07 UTC

far right

2019-11-23 19:24:09 UTC

or alt right

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or are they literally so batshit crazy that they need

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a new spectrum

2019-11-23 19:24:27 UTC

It's technically centre in a certain sense

2019-11-23 19:24:33 UTC

Lets not forget the Nazis only surfaced due to the massive poverty and social deprivation caused by Communism

2019-11-23 19:24:40 UTC

Far Right Policies and Far Left policies

2019-11-23 19:24:42 UTC

no..

2019-11-23 19:24:43 UTC

Something that echos right across Europe right now

2019-11-23 19:24:48 UTC

thats incorrect.

2019-11-23 19:24:49 UTC

With a rise in populism

2019-11-23 19:24:52 UTC

the nazis rose

2019-11-23 19:25:12 UTC

The Communists never caused poverty though

2019-11-23 19:25:15 UTC

from the sheer amount of anti-jewish propaganda and the sheer hyper-inflation from weimar germany

2019-11-23 19:25:20 UTC

They never won an election

2019-11-23 19:25:22 UTC

the communists were never

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Kind if did

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ever

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in power

2019-11-23 19:25:35 UTC

They had some influence in parliament

2019-11-23 19:25:40 UTC

y

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thats it

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Not enough to have significant power though

2019-11-23 19:25:47 UTC

the leader of weimar germany

2019-11-23 19:25:53 UTC

was paul von hindenburg

2019-11-23 19:26:17 UTC

They where the biggest party in Germany before Hitler even became involved in politics

2019-11-23 19:26:24 UTC

No they weren't

2019-11-23 19:26:36 UTC

the hyper-inflation was caused because the german government thought printing money would fix their issues

2019-11-23 19:26:43 UTC

but it just devalued the mark

2019-11-23 19:26:44 UTC

The Moderate parties were still first place in Parliament

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to

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obscene levels

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which caused more poverty

2019-11-23 19:27:04 UTC

then the depression happened

2019-11-23 19:27:17 UTC

and that destroyed the dawes plan

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put in place

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to help germany recover

2019-11-23 19:27:28 UTC

The Communists were behind the Democratic Parties but ahead of the Nationalist parties for much of the time

2019-11-23 19:27:36 UTC

hitler

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was never elected

2019-11-23 19:27:48 UTC

He was partially elected

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he forced hindenburg to give him the chancellory

2019-11-23 19:27:59 UTC

He was democratically elected Chancellor

2019-11-23 19:28:00 UTC

then he cracked down

2019-11-23 19:28:01 UTC

He won seats

2019-11-23 19:28:02 UTC

Just not President

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ye the nsdap

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won seats

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but never

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a majority

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it was like the UK now

2019-11-23 19:28:28 UTC

Like the tories and lib dems ?

2019-11-23 19:28:28 UTC

hung

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They did become the biggest party though

2019-11-23 19:28:30 UTC

as fuck

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xd

2019-11-23 19:28:39 UTC

ye

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the libdems are the nazis

2019-11-23 19:28:45 UTC

tho

2019-11-23 19:29:00 UTC

But still doesnt dispute what we are living in now in Europe is the same back then

2019-11-23 19:29:01 UTC

Imo

2019-11-23 19:29:11 UTC

no

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just no

2019-11-23 19:29:14 UTC

No it isn't

2019-11-23 19:29:27 UTC

the EU is not anything like nazi germany

2019-11-23 19:29:35 UTC

its socialist and borderline communist

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One example is that Communist Parties now have no influence whatsoever like they did back then

2019-11-23 19:29:37 UTC

for a start

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Maybe to you

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the EU is more like the USSR

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Which you are entitled to

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than

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Nazi germany

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But i differ in opinion

2019-11-23 19:30:07 UTC

Once the EU starts killing certain races I'll agree with you

2019-11-23 19:30:14 UTC

And invading other countries

2019-11-23 19:30:21 UTC

And ending elections

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its already trying

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to invade

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by forcing federalisation

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They sent troops to Iraq Yemen Syria and so on...

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EU wasnโ€™t formed out of conquest

2019-11-23 19:30:41 UTC

And also practicing Eugenics

2019-11-23 19:30:43 UTC

And you can leave voluntarily

2019-11-23 19:30:47 UTC

ye it was an economic union

2019-11-23 19:30:51 UTC

And each country has a veto on decisions

2019-11-23 19:30:55 UTC

and it shouldve stayed that way

2019-11-23 19:31:01 UTC

never getting into politics

2019-11-23 19:31:09 UTC

Well you cant as we see the EU trying to play games to prevent the UK leaving

2019-11-23 19:31:11 UTC

i admit a European central bank couldve been good

2019-11-23 19:31:14 UTC

but not anymore

2019-11-23 19:31:16 UTC

Itโ€™s nothing like nazi Germany

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when they try

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What game is the EU playing t

2019-11-23 19:31:25 UTC

Itโ€™s all the UK

2019-11-23 19:31:31 UTC

We are fuckinf aboyt

2019-11-23 19:31:32 UTC

Yeah sure

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and influence elections and become a political institution

2019-11-23 19:31:38 UTC

PEP is right there

2019-11-23 19:31:47 UTC

We ask for an extension and they give it, thatโ€™s our fault

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"UK is fucking about"

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nah

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The only reason we haven't left is because of Remainer Politicians

2019-11-23 19:31:57 UTC

its the remainer parliament

2019-11-23 19:32:00 UTC

fucking about

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Its all the UK but the EU aint all that innocent

2019-11-23 19:32:13 UTC

We have a house of commons hell bent in bloody remain

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holding the country hostage

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They offered a bad deal that we should reject

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The EU know this

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And use it

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the general election

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will drain the swap

2019-11-23 19:32:38 UTC

the UK has poured money into the EU for decades, made it stronger than it should be - and now theyre treating the UK like nothing

2019-11-23 19:32:39 UTC

swamp(

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ye

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Fuck the EU

2019-11-23 19:32:58 UTC

"ยฃ39 billion to leave us please"

2019-11-23 19:33:04 UTC

Personally i blame them for the mess Europe is in

2019-11-23 19:33:06 UTC

If the latest poll is right the Conservatives could have a majority of 200 seats

2019-11-23 19:33:13 UTC

what mess is europe in max

2019-11-23 19:33:20 UTC

its not gonna be. but it gives a good idea

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They should be sent to the Gulag as far as im concerned

2019-11-23 19:33:23 UTC

the mess that is the longest period of peace in all of history?

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when the majority

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is that high

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Peace ... what peace

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"peace"

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ehhh nvm

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yellow vests in france

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There's no point

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In Catalonia ? In Paris ? In Sweden

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disagree with you

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mate

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EU has nothing to do with the peace we had

2019-11-23 19:33:49 UTC

I cant see peace

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in London

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Say what you want

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it was peaceful for decades before the EU existed

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cos you cant deny

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whats happening

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The EU is to blame for you falling down the stairs as well

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get your head out of your ass pep

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Yes

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and wake up and smell the coffee

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Okay mate

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no PEP... thats the russians fault, obviously

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EU standards for the stairs to be built

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Germany should have continued trying to get it's land back instead of helping form the EU

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British standards where and are better

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Let me know what you're going to blame next after we leave the EU

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I'm curious on what the next scapegoat is going to be

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???

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scapegoat for what?

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For everything that is wrong

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when our economy is growing

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i thought everything was the russians PEP

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because we're not strangled

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by the EU

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xd

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Just like your scapegoat is the UK govermen

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Miku

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Works both ways

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What are you even on about?

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We have been growin gin the EU

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bullshit

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The act of voting to leave plummeted the currency

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becoming a vassel state yes

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and almost we went into a recession

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We give money to the EU to get that back in grants

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Oh christ why do I bother

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Id rather be poorer and free

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than rich

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and in a cage

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You switch arguments around

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They do nothing offer nothing

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and just

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don't even talk consistently

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"switch arguments around"

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