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china be fugged

needs to get some good ol fashioned british empire conquererin

worked well for India

thats something

2019-11-14 10:25:03 UTC

Maybe christianity will do them some good.

ive never really known of an indian person that lives in the UK as being a shitty or stupid person

2019-11-14 10:25:14 UTC

Apparently it's spreading pretty fast

just a brown, curry smelling british person

2019-11-14 10:25:39 UTC

Yeah, well... Not much sense de-weeding your veggie patch if you are seeding your neighbours with the same seeds.

KHHm.. Oogle

2019-11-14 10:28:50 UTC

So, maybe it was time ppl started thinking of gov. backed tech oligarchs as invading forces... If you look at their modus operandi (and you know what each gov tends to devolve into) you pretty much have to admit politics is nothing like it used to be before mass digital oppression.

2019-11-14 10:29:39 UTC

Same goes for 'fixing the planet'

undercover operations are done through blindspots (sometimes intentional) online

rather than secret notes and agents

kind of glad that NK and China has their own intranet search engine things...

kind of

2019-11-14 10:33:15 UTC

In the case of India or any other country that was exposed to tech, infrastructure, western culture in general benefited from a short term boost. However very few could sustain or build upon and once the 'housekeepers' were gone they almost all slid back to almost square one. "You can take a horse to a..."

thats to be expected though

2019-11-14 10:34:47 UTC

So, no. I don't think any nation can uplift any other nation in a meaningful way unless they too have the capacity to grasp, self-police, willingness to improve.

2019-11-14 10:35:06 UTC

In which case they are already doing it.

you cant give equal water to all seeds and expect them to grow and look the same

and some seeds die because their compatability somewhere down the line failed

2019-11-14 10:35:54 UTC

Yes. And that's why speaking about 'g' is herecy

i wouldnt say countries that fail have an 'inferior' population

it could be said, but the wording implies implications

2019-11-14 10:36:29 UTC

Then how would you word the same meaning?

incompatible due to multiple and/or unaccounted factors

2019-11-14 10:37:36 UTC

Incompatible as in different?

yea but it sounds too plain

objectively speaking, the country would be able to be defined as not as good

2019-11-14 10:38:27 UTC

And also not containing objective standards that we could use to evaluate both truthfully

considering one country has 8MBps internet and another doesnt have clean water

2019-11-14 10:38:47 UTC

Same roots though

2019-11-14 10:38:52 UTC

Incentives

environmental factors to account for as well

2019-11-14 10:39:16 UTC

Indeed. How much?

europe was easier, because it had seasons

2019-11-14 10:40:17 UTC

I thought tropical climates should be the leaders of the world as they had had it the 'easiest'

animals though

2019-11-14 10:40:58 UTC

In some aspects, they have it a lot harder

i wouldnt imagine europe, being colder, would have as many mosquitos

2019-11-14 10:41:04 UTC

But then I figured out there's something else, something which the military has figured out too

2019-11-14 10:41:21 UTC

Nature vs Nurture is a false dichotomy. Your nature in turn influences your genetics over millennia and vice versa in a feedback loop.

2019-11-14 10:41:49 UTC

travel and transportation of goods is significantly harder in SA and Africa

also africa has BULLETPROOF HIPPOS

just to note

2019-11-14 10:42:16 UTC

Hahaha

2019-11-14 10:42:22 UTC

Good to know

europe had lions, but they werent BULLETPROOF

2019-11-14 10:43:15 UTC

It deferral of gratification, for those that are wondering...

also despite all reasons, can easily say some groups just happened upon certain beneficial things by coincidence

2019-11-14 10:43:48 UTC

I strongly believe, due to it being a steady marker through all groups

2019-11-14 10:44:29 UTC

True.
What they did with it is another story, right?

i wonder what infant mortality would be between mainland Europe and Uganda, 1 million years ago

theres just plenty of moving parts that coming to any solid conclusion is arrogance at best

2019-11-14 10:46:08 UTC

Nope. Some components are minor, others are paradigm changing.

2019-11-14 10:46:49 UTC

I say we approximate, not discard becuse some parts in some way appear contradictory.

also i like thinking of the idea of practicality of groupings

2019-11-14 10:47:38 UTC

This is going to be our future. The sooner we figure it out, the shorter this new 'dark age' will last.

at no point does 100,000 people pragmatically mean anything

same as how 100,000 skittles means nothing in a jar

1000? maybe

500? sure

like when you have a pot of tictacs or whatever

2019-11-14 10:49:05 UTC

What do you mean? Sorry, I'm not following

if one goes missing, you dont notice

thing in my head about how i think its Uganda, they have more people with above average IQs than there are people living in scotland

Uganda has more population of course, but pragmatically speaking, it doesnt really matter

2019-11-14 10:51:00 UTC

Fun fact: the military didn't use to take ppl below iq 85 bc they couldn't give them anything do without worrying that they'd mess it up.

yarp

problem solving/self sufficency

2019-11-14 10:51:31 UTC

Also, no democratic nation under a certain iq

2019-11-14 10:52:21 UTC

I wonder if the two are correlated, similar to how third world nations tend to subscribe/allow collectivism

collectivism usually happens when inequality gets too high

90% of poor people can overrun 10% of rich people

70% of poor people probably not

2019-11-14 10:53:25 UTC

Well, that doesn't diminish the cause still. The principal reason

matter of making the game fair

and i recognize the word 'fair' is subjective

2019-11-14 10:54:18 UTC

Major reason will be that in the west, they state institution has evolved over the last ~2500 years, and the tradition goes way further.

people have to think the game is fair, it doesnt have to be fair

2019-11-14 10:54:42 UTC

Whereas much of Africa was tribal until very recently, and some of it still is.

2019-11-14 10:55:15 UTC

You can't get fair with government telling you what you ARE

2019-11-14 10:55:23 UTC

Stuff like this ... "grows" into people

2019-11-14 10:56:33 UTC

first the ruler is god
then ruler is selected by god
and so on

2019-11-14 10:56:58 UTC

Unless you have critical thinking and free dialogue

2019-11-14 10:57:09 UTC

There used to be much more

2019-11-14 10:57:23 UTC

It's getting curbed by the data package

2019-11-14 10:57:30 UTC

nah

2019-11-14 10:57:42 UTC

shit is just more visible due to internet

2019-11-14 10:57:58 UTC

Can you provide proof?

2019-11-14 10:58:24 UTC

can you?

2019-11-14 10:58:30 UTC

Btw, I agree to some degree

2019-11-14 10:59:06 UTC

Well, you weren't harassed by powers for speaking your mind on social media before

also i reject the terms Black and White, because an Australian, A Jew, an Irishman and a Swede amongst themselves, and - a Nigerian, a South African, an Egyptian, and a Jamaican amongst themselves, are all different

imagine if it was only people from Sudan that were commiting the crimes

and thinking that the incestuous backwater bayou white folks are the same as King Philip or whatever

2019-11-14 11:00:40 UTC

or maybe it's that people can actually have a voice nowadays, so the damage control requires more force

2019-11-14 11:00:46 UTC

The worst is that horizontal 'policing' has risen too

2019-11-14 11:01:17 UTC

whereas before, the person could often either be ignored, or disappeared if it began to be an issue

'someone is upsetting me'
>block them
'ah, thats better

-
'someone is upsetting me'
>REPORT THEM TO THE AUTHORITIES
'IM SO MAD IM SEETHING, I HAVE MENTAL ISSUES FOR LIFE'

2019-11-14 11:02:36 UTC

"or maybe it's that people can actually have a voice nowadays, so the damage control requires more force"

Sure. Would you say that outspoken individuals are facing equal devastation or that it's always the same kind of dialogue that gets shut down? @leavethisbotnet

people being spiteful for fun

because they want conflict because theyre bored

because they werent taught how to get up and go and get in trouble

because they were protected by mama bear all life

fucking cunts

its weird now

these things happened before

but nobody could know it was happening

now we have intercontinental information that dates back mollenia

2019-11-14 11:04:17 UTC

No we don't

so we are fully aware that civilisations have the 'good men create good times' etc

2019-11-14 11:04:27 UTC

Digital book burning era

yeah thats what i mean

we had it

but then because we had it, it was taken for granted

and people got bored because things were so good we invented the internet

2019-11-14 11:05:00 UTC

it was christian conservatism that was censories before ... christian conservatism isn't that bad philosophy though, unlike the people that do it today. That's the difference, not whether people are getting offended or notl.

and so burn it down

2019-11-14 11:05:01 UTC

I can't find many stuff online, including music and media that I used to be able to n6

its like why communism cant work, because in a utopian society, we would burn it down in order to do something

2019-11-14 11:05:32 UTC

Hahaha

2019-11-14 11:05:41 UTC

Something like that

conservatism changes with time

used to be fundamentalist christianity

but then we had the 1960s and liberation movements

and then now those are under attack when they were really good for civilisationb

so now the conservation effort is on those things more than banning porn and out of wedlock sex

because we recognized that people being free but unstable is important, and it actually works

aka, prohibition

2019-11-14 11:07:50 UTC

Unfortunately the more I look, the deeper the rabbit hole gets on subversion of the western society

the monopolisation of ideas

if every media outlet has the same agenda

2019-11-14 11:08:44 UTC

Almost as if it had been planned by some culture that thinks in centuries/millenias instead of generations.

islam has pages on invading foreign countries and taking them over from within

2019-11-14 11:09:25 UTC

I know. I hate saying but can't not say it.

the jews for sure have the intellect to figure it out too

and anyone that spends a year or 2 with other people thinking about it like the Illuminati can do it too

2019-11-14 11:10:09 UTC

All I'm saying is that whoever figured it out was some Hari Sheldon level faggot

and Marxists were literally planted in america to fill the school system gradually

2019-11-14 11:11:24 UTC

reminds me of the War of the World broadcast

fictional story, but because it was new technology, people thought it was a real invasion

and people were rioting

2019-11-14 11:12:59 UTC

Yess

radio and tv invited people into your home

even though we know it isnt really them

monkey brain sees person looking pretty in our room, telling us things, and showing us pictures

and we think its THE thing

makes me wonder

2019-11-14 11:14:19 UTC

Yess

the core part of humans is the part of the brain thats directly at the top of the spine

and i dont know if its possible to ovewrite that programming

so would be interesting if the only real way to move forward as a species to not be monkeys, is severe brain surgury

doesnt matterh ow big the frontal lobe gets, unconscious processes gunna be unconscious

its like a hardware limitation

2019-11-14 11:16:08 UTC

We can, it's called peaceful parenting AND I'M NOT JOKING

like you can put new GFX cards and disk drives, but cant get past that i3 processor

2019-11-14 11:16:35 UTC

>The Marxists were planted into schools to brainwash people
>Incidentally Conservatism also cucked and became a liberalist movement instead of standing up for Traditionalism

or travel faster than speed of light

weird thought

makes me think of Space Marines and Soma

2019-11-14 11:17:39 UTC

">The Marxists were planted into schools to brainwash people
>Incidentally Conservatism also cucked and became a liberalist movement instead of standing up for Traditionalism"

Anything you dilute looses it's core essence @Monstrous Moonshine

incidentally, we got new information that indicates living under a supernatural boot heel, or any boot hell, doesnt make people more effective people

2019-11-14 11:19:10 UTC

Don't use Wikipedia, unreliable when you need it

2019-11-14 11:20:25 UTC

The evidence suggests the opposite @Boop / ๋ธŒํŒŒ / C'thUwU

2019-11-14 11:21:21 UTC

Despite your religious preference, civilizations that adopt Traditionalism and Patriarchy are healthier in many parameters

2019-11-14 11:21:54 UTC

This video is one of the best on the topic

2019-11-14 11:22:09 UTC

But somehow the preview never shows up on Discord

2019-11-14 11:22:16 UTC

To effectively make any recovery, we must protect those who have diss chanting voices. The first country / group to achieve that will be the next "swiss bank" on our dirtball flying through nothing.

its not a dirtball

its a dirtball with blue bits

2019-11-14 11:24:28 UTC

Hahaha
I stand corrected

2019-11-14 15:22:03 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967335614447636/644557659693121536/EJMLGmsX0AEU3xm.png

2019-11-14 15:22:19 UTC

This is the famed "Thinkspot" platform of Jordan Peterson

2019-11-14 15:22:23 UTC

LMFAO

2019-11-14 15:24:56 UTC

Yeah, no thanks

2019-11-14 15:25:17 UTC

50% off what the fuuuuuck <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

2019-11-14 15:47:29 UTC

So, it's like patreon but with fixed rates

2019-11-14 15:47:47 UTC

And possibly fixed people

2019-11-14 15:50:48 UTC

> Is anyone else aware that @benshapiro once went on Red Ice TV back in 2014 to talk about who really controls Hollywood and the war on Whites?
>
> He also sat down around the same time with @AnnCoulter to talk demographics but more recently denounced her & others as "alt-right"

2019-11-14 16:20:26 UTC

dammit Ben

2019-11-14 16:20:31 UTC

you could have been a based Jew

2019-11-14 16:20:38 UTC

ya fucked it up, feet-sniffer!

2019-11-14 20:55:54 UTC

China should just burn.

2019-11-14 20:56:34 UTC

China likes to blame everyone else except themselves. Boohoo, Jap raped and killed Nanking.

2019-11-14 20:57:00 UTC

Yeah, after you Chinks genocided that same city three times **before** that.

2019-11-14 20:59:15 UTC

I wonder what excuse they have for 50 million dead due to the Great Leap Forward.

2019-11-14 21:00:12 UTC

This has been tried before as well @whiic

2019-11-14 21:00:25 UTC

> Now it has come to light that British spies looked at an even more audacious way of derailing the man behind the German war machine - by giving him female sex hormones.
>
> Agents planned to smuggle doses of oestrogen into his food to make him less aggressive and more like his docile younger sister Paula, who worked as a secretary.

2019-11-14 21:00:58 UTC

So, do you say that CIA is pumping estrogen into East-Asian water supplies to turn their men into women or what?

2019-11-14 21:01:05 UTC

Not really

2019-11-14 21:01:08 UTC

Just some context

2019-11-14 21:01:57 UTC

Nice pseudoscience to think that estrogen would make anyone more docile.

2019-11-14 21:03:34 UTC

Steroid rage is partly caused by some of the extra steroids being turned into estrogen in the body. And women are known for being mentally unstable. Their lack of androgens just makes them physically weak to hurt people when they chimp out in rage.

2019-11-14 21:06:33 UTC

But I back then people believed in even crazier shit. They barely knew about germs.

2019-11-14 21:07:27 UTC

Well, I guess even today there are people who prefer nervous excitation theory of disease causation, i.e masturbation makes plams grow hairy and stuff.

2019-11-14 21:08:47 UTC

The CIA will try any tactic to undermine their enemy

2019-11-14 21:09:13 UTC

Theyโ€™ve been doing it back when they werenโ€™t called the CIA but something else entirely

2019-11-14 21:09:31 UTC

Which was made back in 1940โ€™s during World War Two

2019-11-14 21:09:57 UTC

I just don't think CIA has means to poison all Chinks.

2019-11-14 21:10:02 UTC

They have a lot of experience with these things, WW2 and the Cold War, Chinese, British, Soviet and Israeli tactics

2019-11-14 21:10:17 UTC

Well I donโ€™t think they used poison

2019-11-14 21:10:57 UTC

The claim by the Chinese is that the CIA is promoting K pop and feminine men as the Japanese and South Korean ideal

2019-11-14 21:11:08 UTC

This is to pacify them and to make it spread to China

2019-11-14 21:11:19 UTC

Which in all fairness, has spread to China

2019-11-14 21:11:36 UTC

However I do understand your skepticism

2019-11-14 21:11:59 UTC

As the Chinese say really dumb shit like that California was settled by Chinese before the death of Christ

2019-11-14 21:12:15 UTC

I donโ€™t know if the CIA did this

2019-11-14 21:12:28 UTC

Or if there is some type of compounding effect

2019-11-14 21:12:41 UTC

Which it most likely is some type of compounding effect

2019-11-14 21:12:49 UTC

I don't simply believe CIA is that competent.

2019-11-14 21:12:55 UTC

CIA influence? I donโ€™t see anything pointing that way

2019-11-14 21:13:19 UTC

CIA couldn't predict collapse of USSR the day before it happened.

2019-11-14 21:13:29 UTC

I agree the CIA is shit

2019-11-14 21:13:50 UTC

KGB probably had the knowledge of how propaganda works to pull it off.

2019-11-14 21:13:57 UTC

I think the Chinese are looking for causes as to why feminine qualities have taken hold of East Asian men

2019-11-14 21:14:27 UTC

And South Korea and Japan were on USA's influence sphere. It would make sense that cultural Marxist malaise and subversion was don't against S Korea and Japan the same way they did to the USA.

2019-11-14 21:14:33 UTC

1991 to 2019.... perhaps the CIA learnt something during that time

2019-11-14 21:14:37 UTC

Although, USA was subverted through the education system.

2019-11-14 21:14:57 UTC

So youโ€™re saying it could be the KGB?

2019-11-14 21:15:05 UTC

*Could*

2019-11-14 21:15:14 UTC

East-Asia doesn't seem to be similarly corrupted via institutions.

2019-11-14 21:16:03 UTC

I don't know if KGB could have. I just see no reason why CIA would have. Both the fact that they were the allies, and because CIA is incompetent as well.

2019-11-14 21:16:37 UTC

If CIA had the plans to destroy masculinity of East-Asian men, though would have started with their actual enemy: the Chinese and N Korean.

2019-11-14 21:16:52 UTC

Obviously, they cannot, since they are authoritarian states.

2019-11-14 21:17:15 UTC

Actually one of the theories put out by BPS was that South Korea did it to themselves with the 3 S policy

2019-11-14 21:17:32 UTC

As a form of bread and circuses to distract the population

2019-11-14 21:17:46 UTC

Yeah, I do think it's more likely that they did it to themselves rather than KGB did it (let alone CIA did it).

2019-11-14 21:17:56 UTC

CIA idea is retarded Chinese propaganda.

2019-11-14 21:18:07 UTC

China: "Our own failure is the fault of another country"
*Jordan Peterson has entered the chat*

2019-11-14 21:18:13 UTC

Context: South Korea was under a military dictatorship and they wanted to keep the people in check

2019-11-14 21:18:51 UTC

I just donโ€™t understand why China of all countries would do it when theyโ€™re trying really hard to โ€œmasculizeโ€ their men

2019-11-14 21:18:55 UTC

Heck, I wouldn't be surprized if K-pop and Japanese trap culture was **CHINESE** cultural Marxist ... or cultural Maois subversion. They just blame it on USA, because they haven't been caught.

Chinaman cries as he hits you.

2019-11-14 21:19:16 UTC

Maybe

2019-11-14 21:19:59 UTC

Iโ€™ve heard a rumor that America wanted their people to look at japan as a friend and not a enemy so they helped start anime and icons like the little cat thing thatโ€™s on bandaids

2019-11-14 21:20:12 UTC

So if that is the case then that could have been blowback

2019-11-14 21:20:30 UTC

In this case the CIA is fucking dumb that they actually undermine their own ally

2019-11-14 21:20:38 UTC

Which I could believe with ease

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