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2019-11-18 15:08:52 UTC

monostaries

2019-11-18 15:08:57 UTC

kept lots o things

2019-11-18 15:09:09 UTC

and the more prosperous cities in italy and france did well in that regard as well

2019-11-18 15:09:15 UTC

The point of being lost is, it doesn't exist
so you can't know what it was exactly that was lost

2019-11-18 15:09:33 UTC

but thats also history youre postulating

2019-11-18 15:09:37 UTC

and not some real technology

2019-11-18 15:09:44 UTC

in which physical objects still exist

2019-11-18 15:09:58 UTC

Technology was invented, lost and reinvented in many instances

2019-11-18 15:09:59 UTC

but 40k and battletech postulate universes where even simple reverse engineering is impossible

2019-11-18 15:10:01 UTC

its silly really

2019-11-18 15:10:02 UTC

that is well documented

2019-11-18 15:10:19 UTC

We lost orange carrots

2019-11-18 15:10:26 UTC

They had to be remade

2019-11-18 15:10:28 UTC

people claim things are lost when they really arent

2019-11-18 15:10:41 UTC

Roman Concrete

2019-11-18 15:10:46 UTC

constantinople remained unsullied from its inception to 1204

2019-11-18 15:11:07 UTC

with all sorts of things there, knowledge of ancient technologies of course

2019-11-18 15:11:14 UTC

they didnt reporudce things because they didnt need to

2019-11-18 15:11:14 UTC

Just reverse engineer the concrete lmao

2019-11-18 15:11:15 UTC

this is pure autism, guys

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967804483371009/646004495297282072/unknown.png

2019-11-18 15:11:25 UTC

God, I love this server

2019-11-18 15:11:36 UTC

Another one, the Egyptian writings Solon talks about

2019-11-18 15:11:38 UTC

they were considered unnecessary to the needs of the current society

2019-11-18 15:11:44 UTC

Then there's also greek computers that were lost

2019-11-18 15:12:06 UTC

We get a small glimpse from what Solon passed on, but much of it is lost

2019-11-18 15:13:21 UTC

lostech irl

2019-11-18 15:13:51 UTC

holy shit that's awesome

2019-11-18 15:13:55 UTC

Also roman steam power

2019-11-18 15:14:22 UTC

If anything is evidence of time travel it's greece & rome

2019-11-18 15:14:35 UTC

rome didnt have steam power

2019-11-18 15:14:41 UTC

they had a spinny thing they found entertaining

2019-11-18 15:14:51 UTC

It was proposed to use it for power

2019-11-18 15:15:09 UTC

But the idea was dropped because slaves were currency

2019-11-18 15:15:12 UTC

someone in the middle ages invented refrigeration too

2019-11-18 15:15:18 UTC

they just used it for party tricks

2019-11-18 15:15:34 UTC

So reducing their value would have basically ruined the post-money roman economy

2019-11-18 15:15:43 UTC

Capitalism is what drives innovation

2019-11-18 15:15:57 UTC

Probably required too much power to keep things cool for long time

2019-11-18 15:16:02 UTC

considering that most of what roman slaves did was agriculture

2019-11-18 15:16:10 UTC

Anything else is stagnating and party tricks

2019-11-18 15:16:17 UTC

and all the steam engine is good for really is pumping water

2019-11-18 15:16:28 UTC

assuming you dont have high class metallurgy to make railroads and stuff

2019-11-18 15:16:40 UTC

i think the slaves jobs wouldve been pretty secure even if they did mechanize it

2019-11-18 15:16:42 UTC

but they didnt

2019-11-18 15:16:50 UTC

Imagine if a Roman built a steam boat

2019-11-18 15:16:56 UTC

can you fucking imagine steampunk rome

2019-11-18 15:16:59 UTC

to build a steam boat you need paddles

2019-11-18 15:17:00 UTC

or screws

2019-11-18 15:17:01 UTC

Or a train

2019-11-18 15:17:07 UTC

they didnt have the metallurgy for screws

2019-11-18 15:17:11 UTC

much less a full train

2019-11-18 15:17:27 UTC

maybe a paddle boat

2019-11-18 15:17:32 UTC

What would you need screws for

2019-11-18 15:17:33 UTC

What Iโ€™m pretty sure they had screw technology

2019-11-18 15:17:37 UTC

screws make ships move

2019-11-18 15:17:45 UTC

theyre how you translate an engines power into propulsion

2019-11-18 15:17:48 UTC

they didn't even have steel afaik

2019-11-18 15:17:51 UTC

in modern ships

2019-11-18 15:17:57 UTC

at least not in any bigger quantities

2019-11-18 15:17:59 UTC

these are massive screws

2019-11-18 15:18:05 UTC

youd need proper metallurgy

2019-11-18 15:18:12 UTC

likewise even making a proper steam engine

2019-11-18 15:18:15 UTC

would require good steel

2019-11-18 15:18:17 UTC

to make the furnace

2019-11-18 15:18:21 UTC

i mean hell

2019-11-18 15:18:25 UTC

you wanna make a locomotive

2019-11-18 15:18:29 UTC

the entire thing is solid steel

2019-11-18 15:18:33 UTC

They knew that steel is sometimes made when you make iron
but they didn't understand how and when it's created

2019-11-18 15:18:47 UTC

Rome invented screws actually so that'd work

2019-11-18 15:18:55 UTC

theres a difference between

2019-11-18 15:18:57 UTC

a small screw

2019-11-18 15:19:00 UTC

in a wooden block

2019-11-18 15:19:02 UTC

and a ships screw

2019-11-18 15:19:10 UTC

They were wood ofc

2019-11-18 15:19:10 UTC

ship screws are shaped entirely differently first of all

2019-11-18 15:19:15 UTC

second of all they are massive

2019-11-18 15:19:20 UTC

wooden screws wouldnt work at all

2019-11-18 15:19:24 UTC

wouldn't bronze work?

2019-11-18 15:19:37 UTC

are copper

2019-11-18 15:19:37 UTC

well ny metal would work

2019-11-18 15:19:45 UTC

but metal isnt exactly easy to come by

2019-11-18 15:19:58 UTC

you think they just have huge amounts of it lying around?

2019-11-18 15:20:09 UTC

the only reason metal was so easy to come by during the industrial revolution

2019-11-18 15:20:14 UTC

was because they mechanized mining

2019-11-18 15:20:23 UTC

and they knew how to use chemical solutions to refine ores

2019-11-18 15:20:26 UTC

the romans had none of that

2019-11-18 15:21:04 UTC

likewise i dunno if a weaker metal like copper would be able to take the strain

2019-11-18 15:21:08 UTC

Okay but they'd have probably been able to get there

2019-11-18 15:21:18 UTC

So what you are saying is, go back in time and save rome?

2019-11-18 15:21:26 UTC

as an aside

2019-11-18 15:21:31 UTC

yo didnt even have copper plating

2019-11-18 15:21:34 UTC

on the underside of boats

2019-11-18 15:21:42 UTC

until well after the 1700s began

2019-11-18 15:22:06 UTC

Could they make giant steam-drawn scorpion

2019-11-18 15:22:09 UTC

metal only became super in demand

2019-11-18 15:22:15 UTC

when cannons came about

2019-11-18 15:22:22 UTC

cuz those *had* to be made of metal

2019-11-18 15:22:41 UTC

But having a ship part need to be metal should have a similar effect then

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