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The industrialization program was started by the tsar, the Soviets just continued it
@โญ Anon โญ I mean that there will no longer be a working class once AI can do any meaningful job, but faster
and more efficiently
Thatโs great. Weโll have achieved automation
Actually 40
@Americus that's called a post scarcity Economy
Which will lead to the eventual nullification of capitalism and labor
As well as economic class
Machines are coldly logical. Population growth will cause them to make the only logical decision. There is no such thing as post scarcity, as long as there are growing populations there will always be a struggle for resources
Industrialized nations have a neutral population flux
^ yuh
If the whole world was industrialized and lived in comfort then population would eventually even out
At least based on the data we have from every nation that had ever industrialized
Americus
Ai will not advance that fast
global economic disaster will first speed up the decay of capitalism
fascism solves nothing at that point so
Food production has a maximum level, the earth does not have enough resources to support the population of the Earth if every nation can produce surpluses. In the short term there will be massive population growth but it is unsustainable in the long run
we have enough food production to feed 1.8 times the population
Then we can expand outwards
Then we better spread out
space colonization is plausible
long term
AI's growth is exponential, it is highly likely that we will see AI capable of handling the macro economy
Make the red planet red! <:HammerAndSickle:575369911690461207>
um
No that wont come for a while
also not to mention the population is leveling off
We still have the same base problem though of population growth and climate change. Do we just keep spreading and using up every resource until we all starve?
Population growth isn't an issue, the population is leveling out
No
Climate change is gonna cause mass genocide
AI, while incredibly useful, will cause a greater change to the global economy than the industrial revolution and it will come a million times faster and harder
We face our population issues when they arise
Like any other issue
By then its too late
We don't just lay down and give up
Impending economic collapse and climate change is going to be the cause of mass genocide
it will cause the decline of capital
Well given the fact that we consume living material, it seems like a high increase in our population could be supplemented through advanced agricultural methods. There is no cap to the amount of food we can make, at least as far as I know
^
Who controls the capital is irrelevant. It is the mode of production that will cause global problems, mainly industrial/tech based industries
Imagine a global dust bowl, that is the result of permanent mass agricultural production
The dust bowl was the result of poor methods. We donโt just have dust bowls annually
We also don't need to produce that much food relatively speaking. In a hundred years much of the coastal population will move inward and impede on agricultural production. For the land that is used, it will have to be constantly used at maximum capacity
This will inevitably cause soil degradation, and later mass starvation
Weren't you talking about communism being superstitious because communists estimate a lot
<:ThinkingPepe:552577932699238400>
I'm talking about long term theory currently. This is my estimation of future events given historical precedent
It's actually pretty late by me currently. Thanks for the conversation guys, but I'm gonna get off
night
cya
"My estimation of future events given historical precedent"
This is basically Marxism
In one sentence
@โญ Anon โญ @cmad imagine if we converted this whole sever
I mean thatโs an issue we will have to deal with eventually, assuming there arenโt some unpredictable advancements to be made in agriculture
Mass red pilling
I doubt it. Fascism and socialism rest on radically different foundations
@โญ Anon โญ this server seems like another hub for lonely confused white boys
Like so many other fascist havens
They donโt seem confused, at least not Americus. Assuming our opposition is *completely* brain dead would be a mistake
ye americus has somewhat of a brain
he still lacks a lot of fundamental knowledge about marxism however he understands a lot of problems
Im not being generous of course
The vast majority of fascists cannot be helped
Nor will they be helped
I guess Iโm trying to say that most of them wonโt be convinced because they have genuine convictions about how they believe society functions, and not just some bland racial hatred that many of our side seem to reduce them to
@Danny Sullivan I was a strasserist
@cmad what got you out of it?
race
I was harrased constantly for being part chicano
@cmad I never understand multi ethnic fascists/far right whenever I do see them
yeah idk tbh
I was 13 I think lmao
Yeah sounds like a phase
Or was a phase
spoken like a true communist @Danny Sullivan
commies are always entertaining in how they lack understanding of the right
A bunch of wacky ideologies taken a little too seriously
Basically what it is
no thats commies
Ironic coming from the one who follows the ideology of a man who shot himself
certainly masculine
Hitler was a uncool kinda guy
not gonna lie
So was Hirohito
he was reeeaaally uncool
@Deleted User Bruh you're going off of total stereotypes lmao
like, all of these blatant accusations have no basis whatsoever youre just pulling some boomer ass arguments
plenty of communists have jobs, and the amount of communists above 18+ is probably more than the amount below 18
it's almost like a massive life full of debt and stressful conditions push people to disliking the system that put them in it
and going off of this bullshit accusation I can also claim fascists are all fucking underweight incels because of the community surrounding them on the internet
which obviously they aren't
and you're judging them by stereotypical standpoints particularly from which you see on the interenet
obviously not all fascists are beta incels and not all communists are jobless
the New People's Army is communist and controls the entire south island of the Philippines, the CPSU is extremely popular in Russia and the government literally has to stop them from winning, and there is more examples I can go on and on
point is stop making stupid accusations based on pure Stereotype
Lol what? Many communists famous and not famous faced harsh circumstances which usually drives them to radicalism, and not to mention personal experience isnโt required to have an opinion on something, you can draw from the experiences of others such as Karl Marx did as the working class conditions of England were terrible... And as I said many communists faced tough conditions growing up as well, Stalin was abused by his father as a child for example, however still this argument really isnโt a valid critique of communism from the start, as I said you can draw from the experiences of others. Still this is an absurd claim to make because of the fact that you do nothing to actually critique the ideology itself, youโre just going after the leaders and ignoring the entire thought of Marxism, which I doubt you even know anything about anyway.
Nigga what the fuck I didnโt look at it Iโve been at the gym for the past hour
โModern communists are quite well off in retrospectโ
Uh no
Why do you think the black panther party forced
Becuase of police brutality
They were defending themselves from pigs
And did it well
Police brutality was extremely rampant in black areas
Thatโs a given fact
What
Ok retarded
What has fascism done ever for the working people
Lmfao
Depends on what fascism
Fascist worldview or classical fascism
All you do is spam that quote
Good job dumbass
Peak argumentative skills
Nigga what
How
How do I not please explain
It appeared you were attempting to criticize Marxism by explaining how weโre โinsecureโ and some bullshit
Tfw fascists want to help the workers but retain the same oppressive structures of capitalism
actual brain death
n
@succubust wait what the fuck why are you here
who are you
soda
from hp
hii
idk i like these servers
lol
Haha
You're communist
They support gays
Ew
Hahahaha
Left wing: destroyed
Is the right getting better at comedy?
Bruh
I respect everyone who is not gay, trans or jew
@๐๐๐๐'๐ ๐ด that's pretty sad
Why
Intolerance for the sake of intolerance
Well not all jews
The zionist jews
So Israelis?
Jews who support zionism
Because the majority of Jewish people aren't Zionist
Also I'm surprised you're against people who want an ethnostate
Are you against enthostates?
Not really
Jews can live peacefully
Then why are you against zionists?
Just stop messing with Arab lands
Leave the Palestinians alone
They wanna establish a traditional racially homogeneous religious ethnostate
They gotta rebuild Palestine or die
Sounds like something you'd like
They have two ways
You don't actually give a fuck about Palestinians
Give back palestine
I do
You're just a fucking Jew hating Nazi
Nope
I'm not a nazi
Lol
Gay
Lol
Do you think Jews all over the world are responsible for the actions of Israel?
Is that a problem to hatrle
Jews are responsible for europe
The corrupt of Europe
Wdym?
Ask the nazis
Christians are better
Gay
Tf u mean @Bozgor
Uwu
I respect others opinions
But
@Danny Sullivan I never said all the jes
Jews
U can't call me a nazi
Discord can censure me? ๐ค
Yeah
It's their right as an independent platform
Jews never had a state
I agree
I'm not calling for genocide
The majority of refugees aren't Israelis <:PepeChill:552613722502332416>
It's mostly Palestinians and Syrians
Eliminate gays and trans
The right wing fascist Israeli government is destroying Palestine
Lol they ain't humans
Let them die
Why not?
They're just as human as you or I
How dumb are jews
They call anti Israeli anti Semitic
You people are fucking toxic
@Danny Sullivan "they're just as human as you and i"
<:FeelsAmazing:552577821684531220>
Proud that nazis killed gays
Lol
He's talking about trans and gay people
If I'm going to kill someone
Nazis aren't human
neo nazis are cringe
The first target would be gays
@Danny Sullivan they're just as human as you and i
I would unironically kill every last one of them if I could
No they're not
Go kill nazis
well danny since you are a skinny pale kid you couldnt
Lol
Nazis have demonstrated the inability to feel human emotions such as empathy and understanding
sorry danny nazis are homo sapiens
They are a vile cancer on this world
so they are human
This world will not be safe until every last fascist and nazi roach is wiped from the face of the earth
never change danny
Leftists be like
danny you have severe anger issues
Xd
you and kultro
He is a jew probably
are like both edgy angry bois on the opposite side of the spectrum
Why are you calling me pale?
dud i've seen your face back in wardaddys
you are pale as fuck
and skinny
I thought you fuckers we're all about white purity lol
Lmao
no danny says the soviet union did nothing wrong
Let's see your face you fascist bitch
hmmm sorry thats against the rules
This is a fascist server
You can't tune this place leftist lol
Turn*
danny you are just as angry whiny and incoherent as you were a year ago
Lol pussy
lefties dont think in long term
and they think with emotions
thats why they use the empathy argument so much
they don't use brain
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