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2019-06-14 06:37:58 UTC

The industrialization program was started by the tsar, the Soviets just continued it

2019-06-14 06:38:29 UTC

@โ˜ญ Anon โ˜ญ I mean that there will no longer be a working class once AI can do any meaningful job, but faster

2019-06-14 06:38:41 UTC

and more efficiently

2019-06-14 06:39:10 UTC

Thatโ€™s great. Weโ€™ll have achieved automation

2019-06-14 06:39:19 UTC

Actually 40

2019-06-14 06:39:19 UTC

@Americus that's called a post scarcity Economy

2019-06-14 06:39:28 UTC

Which will lead to the eventual nullification of capitalism and labor

2019-06-14 06:39:37 UTC

As well as economic class

2019-06-14 06:41:22 UTC

Machines are coldly logical. Population growth will cause them to make the only logical decision. There is no such thing as post scarcity, as long as there are growing populations there will always be a struggle for resources

2019-06-14 06:43:01 UTC

Industrialized nations have a neutral population flux

2019-06-14 06:43:17 UTC

^ yuh

2019-06-14 06:43:35 UTC

If the whole world was industrialized and lived in comfort then population would eventually even out

2019-06-14 06:43:55 UTC

At least based on the data we have from every nation that had ever industrialized

2019-06-14 06:44:15 UTC

Americus

2019-06-14 06:44:21 UTC

Ai will not advance that fast

2019-06-14 06:44:39 UTC

global economic disaster will first speed up the decay of capitalism

2019-06-14 06:44:54 UTC

fascism solves nothing at that point so

2019-06-14 06:45:22 UTC

Food production has a maximum level, the earth does not have enough resources to support the population of the Earth if every nation can produce surpluses. In the short term there will be massive population growth but it is unsustainable in the long run

2019-06-14 06:45:40 UTC

we have enough food production to feed 1.8 times the population

2019-06-14 06:45:44 UTC

Then we can expand outwards

2019-06-14 06:45:46 UTC

Then we better spread out

2019-06-14 06:45:54 UTC

space colonization is plausible

2019-06-14 06:45:57 UTC

long term

2019-06-14 06:46:01 UTC

AI's growth is exponential, it is highly likely that we will see AI capable of handling the macro economy

2019-06-14 06:46:13 UTC

Make the red planet red! <:HammerAndSickle:575369911690461207>

2019-06-14 06:46:27 UTC

um

2019-06-14 06:46:32 UTC

No that wont come for a while

2019-06-14 06:46:38 UTC

also not to mention the population is leveling off

2019-06-14 06:47:08 UTC

We still have the same base problem though of population growth and climate change. Do we just keep spreading and using up every resource until we all starve?

2019-06-14 06:47:50 UTC

Population growth isn't an issue, the population is leveling out

2019-06-14 06:48:07 UTC

No

2019-06-14 06:48:09 UTC

Climate change is gonna cause mass genocide

2019-06-14 06:48:12 UTC

AI, while incredibly useful, will cause a greater change to the global economy than the industrial revolution and it will come a million times faster and harder

2019-06-14 06:48:18 UTC

We face our population issues when they arise

2019-06-14 06:48:25 UTC

Like any other issue

2019-06-14 06:48:26 UTC

By then its too late

2019-06-14 06:48:38 UTC

We don't just lay down and give up

2019-06-14 06:48:59 UTC

Impending economic collapse and climate change is going to be the cause of mass genocide

2019-06-14 06:49:04 UTC

it will cause the decline of capital

2019-06-14 06:49:08 UTC

Well given the fact that we consume living material, it seems like a high increase in our population could be supplemented through advanced agricultural methods. There is no cap to the amount of food we can make, at least as far as I know

2019-06-14 06:49:21 UTC

^

2019-06-14 06:50:25 UTC

Who controls the capital is irrelevant. It is the mode of production that will cause global problems, mainly industrial/tech based industries

2019-06-14 06:50:55 UTC

Imagine a global dust bowl, that is the result of permanent mass agricultural production

2019-06-14 06:51:35 UTC

The dust bowl was the result of poor methods. We donโ€™t just have dust bowls annually

2019-06-14 06:52:57 UTC

We also don't need to produce that much food relatively speaking. In a hundred years much of the coastal population will move inward and impede on agricultural production. For the land that is used, it will have to be constantly used at maximum capacity

2019-06-14 06:53:28 UTC

This will inevitably cause soil degradation, and later mass starvation

2019-06-14 06:55:20 UTC

Weren't you talking about communism being superstitious because communists estimate a lot

2019-06-14 06:55:37 UTC

<:ThinkingPepe:552577932699238400>

2019-06-14 06:56:11 UTC

I'm talking about long term theory currently. This is my estimation of future events given historical precedent

2019-06-14 06:56:48 UTC

It's actually pretty late by me currently. Thanks for the conversation guys, but I'm gonna get off

2019-06-14 06:56:59 UTC

night

2019-06-14 06:57:01 UTC

cya

2019-06-14 06:57:08 UTC

"My estimation of future events given historical precedent"

2019-06-14 06:57:14 UTC

This is basically Marxism

2019-06-14 06:57:20 UTC

In one sentence

2019-06-14 06:58:34 UTC

@โ˜ญ Anon โ˜ญ @cmad imagine if we converted this whole sever

2019-06-14 06:58:50 UTC

I mean thatโ€™s an issue we will have to deal with eventually, assuming there arenโ€™t some unpredictable advancements to be made in agriculture

2019-06-14 06:58:55 UTC

Mass red pilling

2019-06-14 07:00:32 UTC

I doubt it. Fascism and socialism rest on radically different foundations

2019-06-14 07:02:48 UTC

@โ˜ญ Anon โ˜ญ this server seems like another hub for lonely confused white boys

2019-06-14 07:03:00 UTC

Like so many other fascist havens

2019-06-14 07:04:17 UTC

They donโ€™t seem confused, at least not Americus. Assuming our opposition is *completely* brain dead would be a mistake

2019-06-14 07:05:52 UTC

ye americus has somewhat of a brain

2019-06-14 07:06:12 UTC

he still lacks a lot of fundamental knowledge about marxism however he understands a lot of problems

2019-06-14 07:06:55 UTC

Im not being generous of course

2019-06-14 07:07:14 UTC

The vast majority of fascists cannot be helped

2019-06-14 07:07:20 UTC

Nor will they be helped

2019-06-14 07:07:53 UTC

I guess Iโ€™m trying to say that most of them wonโ€™t be convinced because they have genuine convictions about how they believe society functions, and not just some bland racial hatred that many of our side seem to reduce them to

2019-06-14 07:16:18 UTC

@Danny Sullivan I was a strasserist

2019-06-14 07:16:47 UTC

@cmad what got you out of it?

2019-06-14 07:16:55 UTC

race

2019-06-14 07:17:06 UTC

I was harrased constantly for being part chicano

2019-06-14 07:18:11 UTC

@cmad I never understand multi ethnic fascists/far right whenever I do see them

2019-06-14 07:18:32 UTC

yeah idk tbh

2019-06-14 07:18:36 UTC

I was 13 I think lmao

2019-06-14 07:19:10 UTC

Yeah sounds like a phase

2019-06-14 07:19:18 UTC

Or was a phase

2019-06-14 08:05:35 UTC

spoken like a true communist @Danny Sullivan

2019-06-14 08:09:39 UTC

commies are always entertaining in how they lack understanding of the right

2019-06-14 11:00:42 UTC

A bunch of wacky ideologies taken a little too seriously

2019-06-14 11:00:46 UTC

Basically what it is

2019-06-14 11:02:07 UTC

no thats commies

2019-06-14 18:39:44 UTC

Ironic coming from the one who follows the ideology of a man who shot himself

2019-06-14 18:39:52 UTC

certainly masculine

2019-06-14 19:54:13 UTC

Hitler was a uncool kinda guy

2019-06-14 19:54:18 UTC

not gonna lie

2019-06-14 19:54:35 UTC

So was Hirohito

2019-06-14 19:54:48 UTC

he was reeeaaally uncool

2019-06-14 20:07:36 UTC

@Deleted User Bruh you're going off of total stereotypes lmao

2019-06-14 20:07:56 UTC

like, all of these blatant accusations have no basis whatsoever youre just pulling some boomer ass arguments

2019-06-14 20:08:22 UTC

plenty of communists have jobs, and the amount of communists above 18+ is probably more than the amount below 18

2019-06-14 20:09:51 UTC

it's almost like a massive life full of debt and stressful conditions push people to disliking the system that put them in it

2019-06-14 20:11:53 UTC

and going off of this bullshit accusation I can also claim fascists are all fucking underweight incels because of the community surrounding them on the internet

2019-06-14 20:11:58 UTC

which obviously they aren't

2019-06-14 20:12:23 UTC

and you're judging them by stereotypical standpoints particularly from which you see on the interenet

2019-06-14 20:13:37 UTC

obviously not all fascists are beta incels and not all communists are jobless

2019-06-14 20:14:35 UTC

the New People's Army is communist and controls the entire south island of the Philippines, the CPSU is extremely popular in Russia and the government literally has to stop them from winning, and there is more examples I can go on and on

2019-06-14 20:14:58 UTC

point is stop making stupid accusations based on pure Stereotype

2019-06-15 00:16:13 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/583448865881980929/589246752855687169/image0.jpg

2019-06-15 01:02:01 UTC

Lol what? Many communists famous and not famous faced harsh circumstances which usually drives them to radicalism, and not to mention personal experience isnโ€™t required to have an opinion on something, you can draw from the experiences of others such as Karl Marx did as the working class conditions of England were terrible... And as I said many communists faced tough conditions growing up as well, Stalin was abused by his father as a child for example, however still this argument really isnโ€™t a valid critique of communism from the start, as I said you can draw from the experiences of others. Still this is an absurd claim to make because of the fact that you do nothing to actually critique the ideology itself, youโ€™re just going after the leaders and ignoring the entire thought of Marxism, which I doubt you even know anything about anyway.

2019-06-15 03:13:47 UTC

Nigga what the fuck I didnโ€™t look at it Iโ€™ve been at the gym for the past hour

2019-06-15 03:15:48 UTC

โ€œModern communists are quite well off in retrospectโ€

2019-06-15 03:15:53 UTC

Uh no

2019-06-15 03:16:06 UTC

Why do you think the black panther party forced

2019-06-15 03:16:17 UTC

Becuase of police brutality

2019-06-15 03:16:24 UTC

They were defending themselves from pigs

2019-06-15 03:16:27 UTC

And did it well

2019-06-15 03:16:39 UTC

Police brutality was extremely rampant in black areas

2019-06-15 03:16:42 UTC

Thatโ€™s a given fact

2019-06-15 03:17:23 UTC

What

2019-06-15 03:17:35 UTC

Ok retarded

2019-06-15 03:17:42 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/583448865881980929/589292423696613406/image0.png

2019-06-15 03:18:21 UTC

What has fascism done ever for the working people

2019-06-15 03:19:41 UTC

Lmfao

2019-06-15 03:19:45 UTC

Depends on what fascism

2019-06-15 03:19:57 UTC

Fascist worldview or classical fascism

2019-06-15 03:20:23 UTC

All you do is spam that quote

2019-06-15 03:20:34 UTC

Good job dumbass

2019-06-15 03:20:42 UTC

Peak argumentative skills

2019-06-15 03:21:28 UTC

Nigga what

2019-06-15 03:21:29 UTC

How

2019-06-15 03:23:22 UTC

How do I not please explain

2019-06-15 03:23:59 UTC

It appeared you were attempting to criticize Marxism by explaining how weโ€™re โ€œinsecureโ€ and some bullshit

2019-06-15 15:22:21 UTC

Tfw fascists want to help the workers but retain the same oppressive structures of capitalism

2019-06-15 15:22:30 UTC

actual brain death

2019-06-15 15:45:21 UTC

n

2019-06-15 15:46:05 UTC

@succubust wait what the fuck why are you here

2019-06-15 15:46:27 UTC

who are you

2019-06-15 15:46:33 UTC

soda

2019-06-15 15:46:36 UTC

from hp

2019-06-15 15:46:59 UTC

hii

2019-06-15 15:47:05 UTC

idk i like these servers

2019-06-15 16:10:24 UTC

lol

2019-06-15 20:20:43 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/583448865881980929/589549876862255104/image0.png

You're communist

They support gays

2019-06-16 10:28:24 UTC

Hahahaha

2019-06-16 11:30:37 UTC

Left wing: destroyed

2019-06-16 11:30:48 UTC

Is the right getting better at comedy?

I respect everyone who is not gay, trans or jew

2019-06-16 12:58:55 UTC

Intolerance for the sake of intolerance

Well not all jews

The zionist jews

2019-06-16 12:59:22 UTC

So Israelis?

Jews who support zionism

2019-06-16 12:59:54 UTC

Because the majority of Jewish people aren't Zionist

2019-06-16 13:00:23 UTC

Also I'm surprised you're against people who want an ethnostate

2019-06-16 13:00:31 UTC

Are you against enthostates?

Jews can live peacefully

2019-06-16 13:01:47 UTC

Then why are you against zionists?

Just stop messing with Arab lands

Leave the Palestinians alone

2019-06-16 13:02:15 UTC

They wanna establish a traditional racially homogeneous religious ethnostate

They gotta rebuild Palestine or die

2019-06-16 13:02:32 UTC

Sounds like something you'd like

They have two ways

2019-06-16 13:02:57 UTC

You don't actually give a fuck about Palestinians

Give back palestine

2019-06-16 13:03:07 UTC

You're just a fucking Jew hating Nazi

2019-06-16 13:03:26 UTC

Gay

2019-06-16 13:03:28 UTC

Lol

2019-06-16 13:03:40 UTC

Do you think Jews all over the world are responsible for the actions of Israel?

Is that a problem to hatrle

Jews are responsible for europe

The corrupt of Europe

2019-06-16 13:04:06 UTC

Wdym?

Christians are better

2019-06-16 13:04:44 UTC

Gay

2019-06-16 13:05:13 UTC

Uwu

I respect others opinions

U can't call me a nazi

2019-06-16 13:06:16 UTC

Discord can censure me? ๐Ÿค”

2019-06-16 13:06:53 UTC

Yeah

2019-06-16 13:07:08 UTC

It's their right as an independent platform

Jews never had a state

2019-06-16 13:07:27 UTC

I agree

I'm not calling for genocide

2019-06-16 13:07:47 UTC

The majority of refugees aren't Israelis <:PepeChill:552613722502332416>

2019-06-16 13:07:56 UTC

It's mostly Palestinians and Syrians

Eliminate gays and trans

2019-06-16 13:08:12 UTC

The right wing fascist Israeli government is destroying Palestine

Lol they ain't humans

2019-06-16 13:08:47 UTC

Why not?

2019-06-16 13:08:50 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/583448865881980929/589803575908237314/2c0b29268c5a0d46d3f79ae2242645bb8529032abe1fa2ec4ed9834199f9ad57_1.png

2019-06-16 13:08:57 UTC

They're just as human as you or I

How dumb are jews

They call anti Israeli anti Semitic

2019-06-16 13:09:30 UTC

You people are fucking toxic

2019-06-16 13:09:35 UTC

@Danny Sullivan "they're just as human as you and i"

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/583448865881980929/589803762328272917/unknown.png

2019-06-16 13:09:51 UTC

<:FeelsAmazing:552577821684531220>

Proud that nazis killed gays

2019-06-16 13:10:08 UTC

He's talking about trans and gay people

If I'm going to kill someone

2019-06-16 13:10:23 UTC

Nazis aren't human

2019-06-16 13:10:25 UTC

neo nazis are cringe

The first target would be gays

2019-06-16 13:10:34 UTC

@Danny Sullivan they're just as human as you and i

2019-06-16 13:10:35 UTC

I would unironically kill every last one of them if I could

2019-06-16 13:10:46 UTC

No they're not

2019-06-16 13:10:49 UTC

well danny since you are a skinny pale kid you couldnt

2019-06-16 13:11:10 UTC

Nazis have demonstrated the inability to feel human emotions such as empathy and understanding

2019-06-16 13:11:13 UTC

sorry danny nazis are homo sapiens

2019-06-16 13:11:18 UTC

They are a vile cancer on this world

2019-06-16 13:11:20 UTC

so they are human

2019-06-16 13:11:43 UTC

This world will not be safe until every last fascist and nazi roach is wiped from the face of the earth

2019-06-16 13:11:45 UTC

never change danny

Leftists be like

2019-06-16 13:12:04 UTC

danny you have severe anger issues

2019-06-16 13:12:14 UTC

you and kultro

He is a jew probably

2019-06-16 13:12:31 UTC

are like both edgy angry bois on the opposite side of the spectrum

2019-06-16 13:12:35 UTC

Why are you calling me pale?

2019-06-16 13:12:43 UTC

dud i've seen your face back in wardaddys

2019-06-16 13:12:49 UTC

you are pale as fuck

2019-06-16 13:12:51 UTC

and skinny

2019-06-16 13:12:52 UTC

I thought you fuckers we're all about white purity lol

2019-06-16 13:13:10 UTC

no danny says the soviet union did nothing wrong

2019-06-16 13:13:14 UTC

Let's see your face you fascist bitch

2019-06-16 13:13:28 UTC

hmmm sorry thats against the rules

This is a fascist server

You can't tune this place leftist lol

2019-06-16 13:14:07 UTC

danny you are just as angry whiny and incoherent as you were a year ago

2019-06-16 13:14:14 UTC

Lol pussy

2019-06-16 13:14:43 UTC

lefties dont think in long term

2019-06-16 13:14:54 UTC

and they think with emotions

2019-06-16 13:15:07 UTC

thats why they use the empathy argument so much

they don't use brain

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