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I wish I could get a DNA test but the terms of service for those DNA testing companies say that by doing that I'd be giving them ownership of my DNA and I don't want to give up ownership of my DNA.
I wish I could get a DNA test but the terms of service for all those DNA testing companies say that by doing that I'd be giving them ownership of my DNA and I don't want to give up ownership of my DNA, that's creepy.
It is actually. How can we get equality if we don't let people to express their opinion regarding some issues?
equality isnt good idk why youd strive for it
I am not striving for absolute equality, however, Capitalism has turned people weak because of automation.
i dont even disagree im just not sure how youd conclude that equality is a good thing from that
We produce more than we need, which lead Marx to a point of "redistributing the wealth"
@Blueroad You should read Marx's work regarding Capitalism and Das Kapital
i know ltv lol
i dont see how ltv makes any case for equality
its just an account for phenomenon in capitalism
The thing is that the meme "absolute equality" came from a Marx's vision of a society where wealth is distributed amongst population. He actually thought of this as both good and bad idea, since people, even when they would get the goods, would become more weak than they are right now.
However, Capitalism would inevitably lead to that, since now more and more people are working "bullshit" jobs.
i never said anything about absolute equality im just trying to understand why equality is desirable
communist scum!
Equality matters at this very point because the Bourgeoisie (the rich class who doesn't work shit) is earning more than most workers. Bourgeoisie isn't necessarily "all rich people" since proletarian can be rich and poor. If communism is based on human nature as many marxist put it, why do we need a government to tell us what to do?
Semper Fi
you just said equality is good because society is unequal
There is healthy and unhealthy inequality though
thats not answering the question
It does, let me explain.
the question was why is equality desirable
Because Bourgeois is exploiting you, and they do not work for their earned money. They just own you, like a slave, except they can fire you and leave you with no job.
The only inequality that must exists is within the workers ability and need.
yeah thats just begging the question, dude
If the worker is fired it may very well be due to the competence of the worker not being fitting to the job
your saying equality is good because its good, you use a negative example(inequality)but thats really what it says
But I never said that absolute equality is good, I an saying here that unjustified inequality must be abolished, since Capitalism is very toxic and adaptable. Here, let me give you a question
Why do you think music today is bad?
i never mentioned absolute equality
i think music today is good
Its not, when something is mass produced, it is inevitable to lose quality. Just like with money.
thats your opinion
Its not really, it does hold a truth, unless you are degenerate who listens to trap everyday.
Do tell me why people think classical music is better than most modern shit?
Its simple, that music was created under no economic influence.
Capitalism creates Alienation from their Labour, the other workers etc
i dont care what other people think. i think things are only valuable in light of some subjectively held criteria so this means nothing to me
im just waiting for a reason to think equality is good
Freedom gives you alot of equal opportunities, and again, you imply that I want absolute equality, and your only argument is "lol no mentioning of that shit"
try to read between the lines
yeah, youre injecting absolute equality into my questioning when its not relevant at all
Equality is good because without it thereโs nothing preventing you from getting the same fate that you supposedly donโt care other people getting
yeah thats fine
Unless youre okay with being brutally murdered
In which case youโre mental
Even libertarian agrees with me.
How ironic.
Oh dear.. a Nazi!
you could derive his point from one sentence;
"There is healthy and unhealthy inequality though"
and for the sake of it"But I never said that absolute equality is good,"
Donโt tread on me sir..
i think everybody should have to struggle and fight for a right to their life
@ACentralScrutinizer only if you don't give workers weapons to defend themselves from Bourgeoisie
@NSG1488 Have you read stuff from other thoughts?
You should know this fellow is full of shit the second he said โ I donโt care what other people think about me everything subjective blah blahโ
Reeks of teen
huh didn't seen that
@ACentralScrutinizer well he is most likely a teen, no doubt about it.
But seriously, if we want workers to rule their own fate, shouldn't we give them weapons?
im 28
LOL
Lmao, 28.
Yikeys.
i mean, your reason for equality being good is incoherent so im not shocked that this is what youd focus on
The thing is I want a society for everyone to have "equal chance of income" but not the outcome
Well your argument is invalid because youโre a stupid poopoohead. Need we any more clarification?
@NSG1488 is that what Marx preached?
so equality is good because you want it?
thats a serious question, not a gotcha
Oh gee. I just realized what kind of equality weโre talking about
@Deleted User Most of the """communists""", and i mean teenage ones in college, want absolute equality since they are lazy, which Marx predicted to happen because of Automation.
Are we talking about financial redistribution?
i mean any kind of equality
So you donโt believe in racial equality?
Financial redistribution should only happen once when Bourgeoisie is destroyed. After that, everyone is for himself.
@NSG1488 you seem reasonable, *now read national socialist material ๐*
@Deleted User Already read it, quite actually good, but the thing is that I want Communism to backfire on it's original (((owner)))
That sounds very chaotic and impractical..
They shall feel the taste of their own medicine.
you sound like an Anarcho-Communist who also tries to smash in some natural principles
fucking epic lad tbh ngl
Anprimcomnazi
Anprimcomnazi
why would i want to artificially lift/lower unequals to my status
Not really an anarchist, since I believe that a state should be governed by proletarians, but in order to this to work, we need two ammendements from US constitution
The Second amendment is going to be renamed into "Means of Protection"
@Blueroad when specifically talking about races, what mAkes a race lesser
Every worker should own a gun if a government ever becomes a part of Bourgeoisie.
fucking
GAMER
Thatโs so utopian and unrealistic
i dont care or know anything about race
its not germane
But Libertatians advocate for guns and free speech, hypocrite @ACentralScrutinizer
It would be easy as fuck for someone to shoot up his comrades, take their guns and become a strongman and zip, there goes your communist utopia
I am for guns and free speech yes
@Blueroad if you donโt care or know anything that substantiates the beliefs you hold then you live up to your Nick
Then why don't you agree on a fact proletarian class needs guns?
what does race have to do with what i asked
I spend all my fucking money on my boyfriend
Lmao
it doesnt matter what you plug in instead of race, why should i want it to be equalized
@Blueroad you told me you donโt believe in ANY type of equality, I asked about racial equality, you said I donโt care about race or know anything, when I asked you โwhat makes a races inherently unequalโ which was your implication
no i didnt
i asked why equality is good
You got Alzheimerโs brah?
yeah the question was why is it good
i never said anything about my view
Oh woops
Yeah I asked you a different question dude, can you follow?
You are obsessed with races, Scrutinizer ๐
(Literally a Nazi)
oh i didnt see your question sorry
l m a o
5 IQ
I only stated it like 3 times in the last 10 minutes
Holy shit
i dont see how my position regarding race is relevant to the question of equality being good or not
maybe you could connect those dots for me
Because racial equality is a type of equality
yeah but it being the case that races are or are not equal doesnt speak to equality being good or not
@NSG1488 guns are good for proles, but my point was, by allowing the proles to have guns youโre giving them a chance to form their own strongmen or power groups and therefore they have the option to subvert or destroy your utopian communist government
So yeah your bigger question is, what makes equality inherently good
good at all
it is the natural cycle of things that all degenerates over time no matter how good it is in theory, and therefore constant enlightenment and suffering/change closest to what is beneficial in cycles should ensue whilst not getting rid of actual progress
๐
Are you fine with me like enslaving you, beating you daily, milking your cock and feeding you the semen for nourishment until you die? And also exploiting your labor. @Blueroad
If you're a woman, I wouldn't mind
@ACentralScrutinizer couldn't you ask the same question to "free regulated militia" though? I do not see a reason why would they even organize the movement against the government for no good reason.
me not liking that doesnt make it wrong
same for the inverse
@ACentralScrutinizer That is where morals and self-control come in. You have to learn to live with other people, because human beings are social beings.
Thatโs true, but weโre building a base here my friend, to extrapolate to the greater population. Because it doesnโt matter what one persons thoughts are, but what affects the unwashed masses. Youโd have to ask, is equality something that exists without humanity?
yes
equality is a difference of attributes/properties
Equilibrium โ
Right
To say that equality does not exist is fallacy. Both inequality and equality must exist together, however, unhealthy inequality that was created by Capitalism must be abolished.
who said equality doesnt exist
And what should instated in its void?
Capitalism has done more for equality than any communist or fascist government has
i must have missed that
The state @NSG1488 ?
@Blueroad so weโve established equality is something that exists independent of humans. So then how about goodness or evil. Are those concepts that exist independent of humanity?
@Deleted User The state that is compromised from Proletarians, not from Bourgeoisie, since Marx made a mistake in some of his reasonings that allowed Bourgeoisie to take over.
im not sure, i certainly cant see any reason to be obliged to believe that they are existent independently ofnus
These are ethical concepts
@ACentralScrutinizer could we go to another text channel please
Lmao
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@NSG1488 honestly that just sounds like Corporation 2.0- mainly thinking of the mass production/trash quality
Not really, since mass production can only be created by machines when talking about production of food, metal and other goods.
The point I am trying to say here is that if we want people to advance, we will need to get rid of automation since it is creating what many people call "bullshit jobs"
Those jobs include "Jewtuber" if you know what I mean.
but automation seems to be natural
we should try and work around that
But people get weaker and weaker by allowing machines to take over the jobs that humans are supposed to do
We do not want society to collapse back into the stone age, you know.
i get your point but why can't private venture do the same thing that the state, in your view, should? Both hold the means to abuse the proletariat so to say
just regulate the fuck out of it
i guess
although to certain extent it becomes unfeasable
Well, the thing is that Capitalism is adaptable
It allowed itself to corrupt the state.
You cannot have a free market capitalism when the state is a thing.
We must become machines
All we need is some kind of mind-to-cloud transfer
Marx said that Capitalism is inherently exploitative, and will even destroy nature for profit.
Of course, but it is humanity that is doing such and so what stops the state from doing it? The masses won't give a shit, so why not use capitalism [to a extent- above a certain point industries could, i guess be nationalized or something] to allow people to create something to live for
Honestly at this point i'm just providing obsolete arguments
i get your point
Well one thing is for sure:
We all know that Lolocaust never happened ahahaha xdddd
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But isn't that right comrade?
Of course it is
Imagine unironically believing that wooden door can hold gas.
Now that's beyond retarded.
a lot of people are retarded [more]
partially due to the chemicals we induce in ourselves every day tbh
do you wanna talk?
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best song
Indeed.
Fuck, why do some images come out downloaded as jfif
lmao
ill convert it kek
oh god <:Wojak:552578579234291763>
Fuck everyone who says white people don't have a culture or generally hates them for no reason.
**JOIN THE NAZBOL PARTY**
Partially, I am, however more of an internationalist, but since the Nazbol fights Jewish bourgeoisie so why the hell not.
Lol
bruh
bread
bread time
hi
Bruh
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Retake our land from the white man
Shing dong
i'm proud
that i'm white
Good for you
>White
>low IQ
I fucking doubt
jk of course.
damn
Check it out bois
Bought this today
Note my pale as fuck skin lmao
This better not be some pagan larp shit.
But if it isn't, then it's all good.
anyways nice
whats wrong with
pagan gang
Pagang
pagang
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nice necklace
It isn't. It's a nod to my Norwegian heritage
My great grandma was born there
I knew her well before she passed
epic
I'm agnostic but I respect paganism
I'd prefer not to bow to any gods though
The closest thing I have to a god is my boyfriend, and that's because I have the most respect for his authority than any religion
Interesting.
**NAZBOL GANG ASSEMBLE**
that's quite epic
I don't like how religions tell me not to have sex or to limit what I do lol like I'm monogamous and I love my partner why can't I show him?
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