i havent asked but are you planning on adding the olifant MBT ?

well the mk1 and 2

Yep Olifant will be modeled at some point both the Mk I and Mk II

Ratels will also have their respective Mk's right now I'm modeling the Mk I

ahh i cant wait

So I'll be able to add the MK I to the earlier operations while the Mk II to later operations

Same with the Casspir.

yup

I'm looking forward to the ZT3 that'll be fun!

the ingwe missile ?

Yep

Will be the scariest thing on the battlefield as it cut through T-55's like nothing

Of course they'll only be on a few maps set in 1988

But the SANDF will have them on all maps

i wonder if the eland will be accurate on the battlefield seeing that they knocked out more powerfull t55s

Well I'll make sure they'll be able to take them out at close range from the rear and sides

Though one shot from a T-55 and you're cooking...

yup

luckily the eland is fast and can manouvre quickly after firing

Yup but I have a feeling players are going to feel very vulnerable in them considering it can only stop up to 7.62x51 rounds anything above that goes through.

i believ the turret could stop a bit more

since the eland was our modification of the panhard EML

The mediocre performance of improvised tank destroyers at Cuvelai convinced Ep van Lill, commander of 61 Mechanised, that his men could no longer be asked to fight tanks with armoured cars. Van Lill informed General Viljoen that the Eland-90 simply could not stand up to the heavier protection and armament of T-54/55s. "Tank busting" expended too much 90mm ammunition and fatigued recoil systems. As demonstrated during Askari, crew morale was also affected when ordered to take on T-55s in their vulnerable vehicles. This contradicted South African Armoured Corps (SAAC) doctrine, which was to fight tanks with tanks.

A few weeks later, van Lill was vindicated when a squadron of British Centurions - modified in South Africa as the "Olifant Mk1" - were delivered to the 61 Mechanised base in Omuthiya. As Angola was not seen as a conventional threat to South West Africa itself, the retention of tanks in that territory was not regarded as cost-effective and Olifant crews frequently rotated out. During Operations Moduler, Hooper, and Packer, Ratel-90s were again used in the role of tank destroyers.

Task Force Victor's performance during Askari left much to be desired. At SADF review meetings, the reservists involved were bluntly criticised as "the worst battle group in 82 Mechanised Brigade". More attention was devoted to improving reservist leadership and morale. Also noted was the antiquity of the Eland, which was beginning to hinder operations. It was not deployed in Angola by the SADF again.

that i can believe

the eland was never meant to be a tank destroyer

After Op Askari there were no more Elands. So I'll have to make sure I don't put any in on the maps that take place after said operation

yup

it wouldve been cool if it was possible to lock a scouting ability to a certain vehicle like the eland

Though SWATF continued to use them til the end of the war IIRC.

and then in later ops it could go to the ratel

How would a scouting ability work?

Lets move the discussion to general chat

10-4

Learned how to render out models with the matcap materials applied.

Would this pass as a boabab

uhh yes and no

trunk is fine

but branches are a bit weird

Where'd you find that? Or did you make it yourself?

Made it, but will have to start from scratch... LOST IT!! lol

Damn

Made in speedtree?

That costs money 😬... No. I am a cheap skate when it comes to things like that 😂

Tree it

I have thousands of boababs around me, I think I should get some photos before I try this again

Was gonna do a 3d scan, but I don't think it would work

OK so I do still have some pics... I was way off

@66Lost99 your first attempt isn't bad though hey

http://www.farcry2-hq.com/images/galerie/screenshots/screenshot_155.jpg

That's far cry 2's baobab

God I loved Far Cry 2

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/965348594337667927/7AA86055709E75218E65B9ECCC9319D9A2FBEAE0/?imw=1024&imh=576&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=true Vurhonga Savanna map from The Hunter Call of the Wild

Ja FC2 was lekker though the constant respawning enemies was a bit much! But I loved the setting. FC series really should revisit it...

Nope, they'd get too much flak because it's not white people or random arabs being killed, and that's racist in the media's eyes.

Eh maybe or they just don't feel like returning to that setting yet.

Probably, but after the media got on them for not saying 'white man bad' in Far Cry 5 I can tell you there's no way they'd risk the media crucifying them on a return to Africa.

Screw the media. They can flap their lips all day but the next day they'll always be talking about something else and completely forget yesterday.

It's all about clicks.

We can all think that but no corporation would risk losing even a dollar over it.

I seriously doubt they would lose a lot of sales. Maybe from a few soccer moms buying their sweet little johnny his birthday present but as for the average gamer that purchases their own games they won't give a damn.

Anyway best to move this chat to off-topic

Looking good man. What software you using? @66Lost99

Nvm saw it TreeIT

http://www.evolved-software.com/treeit/treeit

I'll dl it too and see if I can create some acacias

Needs more branches

Looks nice

First map I'm going to reuse one of the afghan maps. Delete all the afghan buildings and out of place foliage. Add baobabs and acacias and african huts and buildings

Yip, had a lot of branches, but took them out, looked to cluttered (don't know how to much detail will affect fps) but ja A.D.D is getting the better of me

Another though I had was that it would be a better way to add leaves, to hide the lack of branches. But it doesn't work like that, need more branches for all those leaves ;/

@66Lost99 It depends on how many polygons the tree has. You can have a lot of branches provided they're low res.

If you look at some of the trees in squad the smaller branches are 2d

LODs are also a factor. The further away the tree the less branches and detail needed

Cool, add branches back in, and yes it looks better already ;) still having a problem with the leaves, but will see

I see there is mapscape as well

I wonder if I can export height maps from it to the SDK

I think I did download it to my pc, but never opened it.

Lol, I think my tree is ready for the troopers mod

Have you imported it into the SDK?

Interesting when I tried to run the exe

it said windows protected your pc

dafuq...

Who needs protection... Switch it all off (jokes) my sdk is out of date and data is a bitch in moz. I can send it to you somehow?

I downloaded the zip version instead

no need to install that one

Depends how big the file is

if its over 8mb then it won't go through discord

Aha that's what I did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXW3hk1Ptzs

watching this tut for now

Paste it into trees folder, think it will work

It's got to be scaled to the right size

I'm watching that tutorial. A few things have to be tweaked in blender for it to work right in UE4

Slowly but surely getting used to the new blender. Just taking some time for my brain to remap the shortcuts. I keep stuffing up here and there trying to use old shortcuts that do something either completely different or nothing at all 😱

I do miss the ctrl + alt + shift + c shortcut to set origin/cursor as I used it a lot. Now it's shift + s then comes up with a radial menu blablablabla I'll get used to it. 😉

Anyway While looking through my reference images I noticed the police version of the Casspir has speakers on them. I thought I'd model them in as an option. Might not make it into the final model though.

But hell would it be funny if you could play any music of your choice over those speakers while driving over the enemy players. The song that came to my head upon imagining that moment was Ride of the Valkyries.

I also spent some time renaming parts as I had a shit ton of parts named cube, torus, cylinder and so on. Difficult to know what is what without names.

Interesting trivia about the Casspir

https://youtu.be/2ID2jIdoKOM

https://youtu.be/qQ7P-9hRN2Y

Casspir Mk II parts added.

Changed the rear wheels as per reference

Will do some more modeling after dinner. And try to get the Discord streaming to work properly so you all can watch.

@everyone I'm live

Can watch the stream but only up to 10 people I believe.

on

Mk I Casspir

Mk II Casspir

Looking real good

Just going to do one last thing and replace the tires of the Ratel and Buffel with the Casspir's tires as they all use the same ones

I actually used the Buffel tire models I already made on the Casspir. Just rounded them off as they were a bit "square" before

I drove past a mk2 today

Lucky bugger

Lol but it wasnt layed out like that

Depends on the variant. There are different Mk II's

There isn't much consistency though with Casspirs I noticed.

Well it had a storage container where the spare wheel is and the spare wheel was where it is on the mk1

Yup exactly what I've been seeing in my reference images as well

It was also a bit shorter but it was definitely a casspir

Some have steel storage compartments mounted on the exterior and others not

There was a shorter Casspir called the Casspir Dumpy

But never entered service afaik.

Hmm could be

My moms boyfriend was a mech troopie and he told me a funny story the other day of a guy who fractured his skull when he tried to rambo kick the doors open, unfortunately the doors are spring mounted so if you kick only one door open itll swing back and as he was jumping out the door basically b*tch slapped him back inside

Haha damn he must have had a pretty bad day!

Indeed

Rendering out the Buffel now with the new tires

Looks so much better now

Is the bonnet of the Samil Kwevoel just that mesh with a frame?

Don't tell me I have to model the bloody engine too 😰

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/data/attachments/98/98499-1e5cd98038ecef6b9e0555a82ca1f527.jpg

http://www.warinangola.com/portals/31/NtForums_Attach/1619361181971.jpg

i dont know if it is you need.....it is forum of war of angola war

Ja can't really see the bonnet whether it's possible to see the engine through it. I hope not as I'd like to avoid modeling the engine. But if it is visible then I have no choice. In the meantime I'm modeling the soft skinned variant

Will model the armoured cab as well but not just yet. Just need to get the frame of the vehicle right before I do the armoured cab.

Quite boxy at the moment. The edges will be rounded off soon

ill check if i cant find any info

Alright lekker

okay good news you dont have to model the engine

since the radiator is behind the mesh you cant see the engine

Fantastic 😉

i find this :: https://books.google.es/books?id=9OOZBgAAQBAJ&pg=PA50&lpg=PA50&dq=Samil+100+Kwevoel+angola+war&source=bl&ots=6lZpqV5NqJ&sig=ACfU3U3qE9OQ9HxzMvWsoLQEnR6TfQcTNA&hl=es&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj10smq87DlAhWPlhQKHcIFBzYQ6AEwD3oECBgQAQ#v=onepage&q=Samil%20100%20Kwevoel%20angola%20war&f=false

I have it

ok

I think in the images there were the two versions of bonnet ... but this is something difficult to distinguish

Possibly

there are two versions

one with the mesh and one with slats like a ww2 halftrack almost

Got the windscreen rounded. Now to get the rest of the cabin is a bit tricky. Curved surfaces are so much harder to do than boxy straight edges like the armoured cab variant. That'll actually be easier to model.