Never heard of it 😬

its shit thb

but the first time AI was put into squad

Ah ok. Oh it's that Sci Fi mod right?

yea

movie was starship troopers i think [must have seen that] 🤖 cant remember if it was good though

yea thats the name i forgot it

they even had a sequel

Keen to see these two girls riding alongside each other in the bushveld soon.

just do it

that looks nice

The Buffel makes me cry though... Why... did they design her with an exposed engine... Modeling engines is not easy!

id believe that lol

In game, at the moment, it would be a promlem. I tnink it is the emrap, you can see the engine just in front of the suspension, and you can even use a knife to disable it

That's why in the mod I want players to be able to drive over enemies and kill them that way

As it was a tactic used in the Border War. Would be silly not to have that option to just squash any sneaky guys trying to do that.

i have seen some of the buffels with closed engines so that would help too if it can be closed

Buffel engine...

when its cloced

That's a Rhino IIRC?

Or Moffel

@Kooijpolloi will probably know.

well doesnt matter cause they were fast af for troop deployment

The chances of getting up to a Buffel to stab its engine is unlikely unless the crew have the situational awareness equivalent to a sloth.

lol

It is vulnerable to small arms fire though...

you could also decide how mush detail is needed 'in game', enough to be immersed, without impacting game performance ect...

I can see enemy players zoning in on the engine at least from certain angles. There is an armour plate covering the right side

Ja true. I will have to optimize the model a lot. The engine won't be as detailed as it is in reality. But the general shape will be as accurate as I can get it

As for RPG's they often caused through and through effects on the hull of the Buffel due to how thin the armour is

I'm certain that would piss off a lot of players though if they shoot the rear cabin only for it to kill one troop and exit the other side

send a pick of engine in current state pls cant remember how it looks at the moment .... at least some should survive a mine though ... bit of a trade-off

Well it's pretty much a box at the moment

You can see parts of it in the Buffel image

open the original and zoom in

lolz. i remember a bit more than a box

Alright will do a render quick

will do so

Standard buffel is the open engine compartment

Rhino upgrade is the enclosed engine and better driver compartment

so rhino upgrade is the way to go

Ja but it wasn't standard in the war as per reference the majority of the Buffels had the exposed engine so that will be the more common variant in the mod

oky

then i guess we'r running the basterds over

Engine looks like kak as you can see 😅 as it drove me on the verge of madness at the time so I never finished it. But will do so once I return to finish the Buffel

it looks good thb

tbh

Indeed either run them over or shoot them. That's how it was done back then and how it'll be done in SABW: Operation Savannah 😉

😎

That mesh grid will have to become a texture as it would be a complete waste to have it as polygons

A texture with an alpha map applied

oky

There is also the flatbed Buffel which I assume was used for logistics?

Then the Mk II variant with the enclosed rear cabin

Mk2 is The moffel

Since having a roof is mof

I've never seen it used in the Border War though at least no images for reference.

It wasnt used

Was marketed for export

Think a couple were devved in the 80s

Makes sense then why I haven't seen any references of it over in Angola or SWA.

But by then the mamba was a thing anyway

You gonna dev the mamba lol

Ja was it used in the war?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/SANDF_Armed_Forces_Day_2017_-_South_African_Army_Mamba_MkIII_APC_%2832203158584%29.jpg

US forces also used it as the Nyala. Never seen any pics of it in the Border War either

Not operationally no

Was used in the troubles in the early 90s

But after all the Border War stuff is done I'd like to include the SANDF but that's a long way from now and not certain

Yeah i get that

Would be interesting to see how the SANDF faction would hold up against the other vanilla Squad factions

hell yea. But you should give our guys aids just to make it more real

Eh lets steer clear from that stuff Boomninja 😉 I'm so, so tired of the controversial kak we talk about online between us Saffas.

ah oky

I understand some of it is legitimate but this is a channel for fun not political discussion 😛

oh im not political

Lekker ✌🏻

Another day, another update.

looks awesome cant wait to see it when its all done and ready for use.

Last piece added for the session. Added the spare wheel branch protectors or whatever they are. I assume they're there to protect the rear spare tires from being ripped off.

Looks amazing boet

Awesome man! This is really coming a long nicely :)

I remodeled this thing so many times last night it's not funny 😪 anyway I reckon this version will work out. As I've changed the blueprint as the other one just wasn't working well for me.

I'm modeling this in a different method to the Buffel and Casspir. With the Eland I have separated the floor, roof and walls as individual parts that will then be joined once I am happy with the general shape of the hull.

Awesome.. That gun is gonna be awsome to use

That's the 60mm mortar version

90mm variant 😉

Wow Niceeeee

Capable of taking on enemy T-34'85 and T-55 tanks

Are gou gonna do the 90mm too

Albeit the latter needs carefully placed shots

Ja 90mm as well as it was the most common Eland variant

Sweet

Only real difference between the two is the turret and cannon

The hull itself is the same. Much like the Ratel 20 and 90 having different turrets as the only different more or less.

Okay.... Phew finally some flipping progress on the Eland.

You don't want to know how many times I've modeled and remodeled the hull 😬 It's proving quite a tricky thing to tackle due to it's funky shapes.

Anyway I'm happy with the way the hull is shaping up now. Should start looking pretty cool by tomorrow.

I'm trying to get as many vehicles in the work in progress pipeline so I can pump them out quickly one after the other when Modding 2.0 comes out. Of course that is being optimistic!

Playing around with the sculpting in blender seeing what kind of results I can get with the SADF Bush hat as a test.

Will tackle this properly later on though when the time comes to sculpt the uniforms.

@Springbok ill get you reference pics for a origional legit bush hat

Looks a bit different to that one

This bushhat unissued one. Could be a later version though if it's not exactly the same as what was worn from 1966-1989 @Kooijpolloi

If you want the cover that comes over the helmet I have one

If you turn the helmet around wouldn't that be easier then to look at?

@Springbok lol no that ones good your model just looks a bit weird the top part is what bugs me

Ja don't worry about it as it's just a test to see what the sculpting tools are like in Blender. I'll tackle it seriously later on when the time comes to create the uniforms for the factions

The ideal result is something like this.

Yah but with a more square top

Ja

The current hats are like that

Just pattern 2000

The texture quality and baked sculpted wrinkles is what I am looking for

Yes nice

Ja the current hats have less of a flat top

Albeit I suppose it depends how you wear it

Notice the guy on the left wears it quite low down making the top rounded while the guy on the right with the face covering wears it "looser" like the old SADF giving it a flat top look

Depends on your head probably lol😂

True. Head shape matters.

My dads hat doesnt fit me for shit way too small

IIRC they tend to shrink in the sun or when washed?

When I got mine there were different sizes. One was really tight on my head so I went for a larger size

Whereas the helmet is I think a medium or small size

Hmm i dunno i do know they fade alot when washed

Medium should be the best size

Ja I remember a reference to that fact in Teenage Safari by Evan Davies. Some blokes washed their uniforms purposely to get that faded effect of an "oumman"

Damn i really like pattern 2000 camo

So aesthetic

Ja same

Yeh till the ouman comes and gives you a poesklap😂

Wasn't a fan of it in the past but it grew on me hard and strong

Same

I will be making the SANDF as well since most of the content fits right into the SADF as well

Yeh just the camo and uniforms

Yup

Same R4's, Casspirs etc

And the gripens 👌

Although I do know there are some differences with the older Casspirs and the newer ones. For example the newer Casspirs got rid of the grill mirrors and replaced them with full steel shrouds

I love how they just took the late cheetahs camo and said lets slap that on a gripen lol

I haven't seen that. Where do you keep up to date with the SANDF stuff?

I watch airahow and demos on youtube

Ah alright. Same here just haven't seen the Cheetah camo on the Gripen.

Impact

Cheetah E

This camo

Ah I thought you were talking about this - https://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/airliners/3/8/6/1810683.jpg?v=v40

Nah lol im talking the real camo not the demo camo

That thing melts in the sky

Looks quite decent not bad. Interesting though they no longer use the old two tone camouflage?

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/b4c/SAAF_M2K_2SQ_1.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b7/80/8f/b7808f0ac63c05cdb232bfb293d14777.jpg

So we planing to make cheetha to?

If only squad had jets lol

Maaaaybe... Down the line? Thing is if jets don't make it into vanilla Squad that means it would be more difficult to import into Squad and work properly.

So pray jets come... (unlikely though).

Old camo is nice but they did a study late 80s that showed its not really necesary

But the impala, bosbok and mirage FCZ and other variants played a major role in the war so it would be weird without them....

Hey we might be getting heli's since there are mods for it so its likely

So they went US style but gave it a two tone to break up the shape

Helis are in dev atm

On squad vanilaa

Ja helis are coming definitely for vanilla which will make it easy to import custom helicopter models and reuse their framework

You might be able to make a deal with the french mod for the pumas

Maybe but honestly I'd rather model it myself

I get that

the Puma as I'd need to modify it down the line

Respect that

For the Atlas Oryx

Allouette?

@ZATr0ll Alouette will be in as well if you're wondering.

Some progress on the Eland 60 and 90.

Starting to shape up nicely now. Been a challenge so far and will continue to be til they are complete.

Early WIP of the Ratel 90.

Proportions seem a little off on the front which'll be sorted out soon enough.

looks good for a beginning model

Ja not a bad box out

Hahaha luckily not a lot of round surfaces

Yup the round surfaces are what makes things a biatch to model! Ratel has none of that.

hehe

Hey guys, been a bit busy purchasing the new parts of my new computer (that I will soon build once I receive all my parts) so I haven't had much time to work on the Ratel so I did a bit tonight! I'd like to go further but I've got to end it short here as I have to be up early.

FYI: The metal grid around the light at the top was for the preproduction Ratel. A couple, 20 I think, was delivered like that to the army for testing and evaluation. First production batch had it removed and moved lower down.

Some nice info here.
http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar/South_Africa/ratel/

Great catch man! Ja I noticed the difference in headlight positions and guards for them.

The one in the museum is a Mk I preproduction I think

Took these photos of it back in 2015.

This one has both lights at the top and bottom from what it looks like.

Triangular guard on the top

This one with no lights on the top only at the bottom.

ZT3 with lights on the top and bottom?

Ja. Seems to be a standard thing in the SA army. Mk-1 = preproduction and Mk-2 = production onwards. That is a deduction not a fact.

Looks like a MK I here with the preproduction guard as you mentioned.

This one has an oddly shaped top light guard.

Another Mk I?

Another triangular guard one.

I'd like to match the different versions as best as I can so depending on the map and the Op it is set in the vehicles would match that year and thus model

That hump thing on top I think is close formation lights? Driving at night without lights?

Cool. The Mk-1 were evaluated in the actual war, so...

True well the idea is to include both the Mk I and the other variants albeit how accurate I'll get them is something I've yet to determine due to lack of information on the differences between all the Mks but I'll give it my best shot.

Cheers for the information @PetraCephas always great to learn more from you 😉

Another day, another bunch of renders!

Some decent progress on the Ratel today.