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2017-10-27 01:39:57 UTC

them disinviting a few people does not nullify the views they hold

2017-10-27 01:40:12 UTC

yes, of course he did

2017-10-27 01:40:30 UTC

the mechanics of NatSoc and Marxist socialism are wildly different

2017-10-27 01:40:48 UTC

hence why the former is actually useful in some specific circumstances

2017-10-27 01:41:16 UTC

he's not alt-right, he doesn't claim to be alt-right, nobody in the alt-right thinks he's alt-right

2017-10-27 01:41:34 UTC

yes

2017-10-27 01:41:47 UTC

do you want me to find one of the video clips?

2017-10-27 01:42:03 UTC

it's been reiterated endlessly, even I know that and I can't stand watching him

2017-10-27 01:42:12 UTC

also, yay blue \o/

2017-10-27 01:42:49 UTC

I still dont know your basis on the claim that Alt-right arent white nationalists Nothing

2017-10-27 01:45:27 UTC

yes, _all_ of the leftists do, most of the cuckservatives do, and a fair number of the alt-light do

2017-10-27 01:45:38 UTC

that's a lot of people

2017-10-27 01:45:44 UTC

no

2017-10-27 01:46:10 UTC

I'm saying that it doesn't make him a member of a group or an adherent of an ideology that he isn't

2017-10-27 01:48:25 UTC

maybe people looking in form the outisde might be confused as they often are, but the alt-right has pretty consistently been about race-realism and nationalism from my experience

2017-10-27 01:48:45 UTC

god damn it, ninja'd

2017-10-27 01:50:17 UTC

ok, but his form is a weak version of the form of what I was describing, not the form you were describing

2017-10-27 01:51:00 UTC

I wouldn't

2017-10-27 01:51:45 UTC

because it's the largest group, and nobody in the alt-right is MAGA right now

2017-10-27 01:51:53 UTC

the last of that died with the strike on Assad

2017-10-27 01:52:16 UTC

Richard Spencer is pretty clearly a white nationalist as well, so if you think hes the leader then how is the alt-right not white nationalist?

2017-10-27 01:52:16 UTC

in the only alt-right that isn't the fever dream of rabid leftists

2017-10-27 01:54:09 UTC

I think dicky is a fed and a moderate one at that

2017-10-27 01:54:18 UTC

No real time to explain as im going to sleep

2017-10-27 01:54:23 UTC

no, what you think is the alt-right doesn't exist

2017-10-27 01:54:45 UTC

dicky may well be a fed, but it still doesn't mean that this 0 population movement you imagine is a real thing

2017-10-27 01:55:56 UTC

the reasoning you've prevented so far (if I'm not wrong) is:
1. he's got bad tactics, therefore the movement isn't white nationalist
2. a load of delusional lefties think that Trump boys are alt-right, so they are

2017-10-27 01:56:08 UTC

@Nothing no, he does those things to the people I described

2017-10-27 01:56:20 UTC

the actual self-identified alt-right

2017-10-27 01:56:25 UTC

no

2017-10-27 01:56:29 UTC

I'm not alt-right

2017-10-27 01:56:41 UTC

and even those who are don't take him as their leader

2017-10-27 01:56:51 UTC

Im "hooked on this conversation" because you brought it up Nothing, thats how this entire conversation started, and now you cant even back up your intital claim. Where did you explain to me how theyre not white nationalists?

2017-10-27 01:57:17 UTC

please do

2017-10-27 01:57:20 UTC

ill wait

2017-10-27 01:58:16 UTC

thats is fucing retarded

2017-10-27 01:58:54 UTC

That does not make someone not a white nationalist, and richard spencer is not the ultimate authority in the alt right

2017-10-27 02:00:46 UTC

are you fucking dense, Richard Spencer is not the ultimate authority in the alt right, and I dont know wether or not he supposts interracial relationships or not, or wether he supports homosexuality since I don't pay much attention to him (youd have to point me to where he says that), but that does not mean the alt right is not white nationalist

2017-10-27 02:01:21 UTC

the alt right has no leader it's an alliance of far right groups

2017-10-27 02:02:23 UTC

from Libcucks to esoteric Super-Fascists

2017-10-27 02:03:02 UTC

Who says he's the leader other than the MSM?

2017-10-27 02:03:27 UTC

I don't personally know anyone who considers him a leader. Everyone I know thinks he's controlled opposition.

2017-10-27 02:03:50 UTC

@Nothing again, you're going with "he pursues a policy which is harmful to whites, therefore he cannot be pro-white". Will you accept the generalisation of this which means that anyone who pursues a policy which is harmful to the white race is necessarily not pro-white?

2017-10-27 02:04:03 UTC

Who says he is the leader?

2017-10-27 02:04:18 UTC

@Nothing being your nominal leader does not give him control over the people

2017-10-27 02:04:28 UTC

@Nothing alright, and now I'm saying that I'm the leader

2017-10-27 02:04:40 UTC

that puts me one for one against ol' Dicky

2017-10-27 02:05:26 UTC

Isn't that what I've just been doing in this conversation?

2017-10-27 02:06:09 UTC

anywho, back to the point
you're refuting someone's aim with the results of their action, which is retarded

2017-10-27 02:06:58 UTC

The Alternative Right, commonly known as the Alt-Right, is a set of far-right ideologies,ย groupsย and individuals whose core belief is that โ€œwhite identityโ€ is under attack by multicultural forces using โ€œpolitical correctnessโ€ and โ€œsocial justiceโ€ to undermine white people and โ€œtheirโ€ civilization.

2017-10-27 02:07:25 UTC

Nearly every online resource says this. Just because alt right.com says he's the leader, doesn't mean he is

2017-10-27 02:07:48 UTC

Hat about TWP? Van guard america

2017-10-27 02:07:58 UTC

Are they not also altright?

2017-10-27 02:09:18 UTC

I dont think the people who own a domain get to decide everything about a movement, and altright.com looks pretty white nationalist to me regardless

2017-10-27 02:09:56 UTC

i dont know where youre going with this

2017-10-27 02:10:00 UTC

That's a bit of a stretch

2017-10-27 02:10:28 UTC

hes right

2017-10-27 02:10:59 UTC

no, action and wrds are two different things

2017-10-27 02:11:35 UTC

He's still bringing people towards white nationalism, you're still just killing a dog

2017-10-27 02:12:22 UTC

@Nothing you're fucking retarded
the difference is that one you're doing knowingly and one you're doing out of ignorance

2017-10-27 02:12:33 UTC

I say again: Hitler was anti-white because he failed

2017-10-27 02:12:52 UTC

how is he doing that, the neocons are opposed to him, theyre not white nationalist or any kind of nationalists

2017-10-27 02:13:53 UTC

and you could say his actions lead to that because of his failures in ww2

2017-10-27 02:16:31 UTC

Does Matthew heimbach call Richard Spencer his leader?

2017-10-27 02:17:52 UTC

But by the definition of alt right he's still considered alt right? Correct?

2017-10-27 02:18:00 UTC

The only person moving the goal-posts is you, the basis of your entire argument is that one guy in the alt-right has some questionable opinions

2017-10-27 02:18:43 UTC

Is he actually in favor of homosexuality and race-mixing, can I get a run-down?

2017-10-27 02:18:52 UTC

Because he coined the term?

2017-10-27 02:19:00 UTC

@Nothing No, Hitler was saying "Hey man, you know what would really save the white race? [Insert WW2 plans]."
Both objectively wrong.

2017-10-27 02:19:15 UTC

There's a new term now, Uberwhites, and all white people are members and I'm their leader

2017-10-27 02:19:18 UTC

@Nothing in control in what way?

2017-10-27 02:19:40 UTC

which allows him to control the people how?

2017-10-27 02:20:39 UTC

So, the movement doesn't stand for their common goals and defining features, it stands for how effective or not their leader is?

2017-10-27 02:21:42 UTC

Pretty much everything I know about the alt-right comes from listneing to Fash the Nation and the Daily Shoah, am I doing it wrong?

2017-10-27 02:22:06 UTC

So because one man speaks publically, he decides how the movement feels?

2017-10-27 02:22:23 UTC

No, he may be swaying public opinion but it doesn't change the core of the group

2017-10-27 02:23:44 UTC

The only thing I can find calling Richard Spencer the leader of the alt right is a HuffPo article

2017-10-27 02:23:52 UTC

Is that where you're getting this?

2017-10-27 02:24:45 UTC

Not at all, I'm trying to figure out where you are gathering he's the leader. Just because he owns the domain and coined the term.

2017-10-27 02:25:26 UTC

@Orchid yes, you should get your info on the group from verified journos on twitter, not the most influential thought-leaders within the group

2017-10-27 02:26:22 UTC

yes, he coined the contraction and was the first big public figure

2017-10-27 02:26:37 UTC

he's the best known and the one they can associate that way

2017-10-27 02:26:43 UTC

that's it

2017-10-27 02:27:42 UTC

Kaeperick was outspoken against police brutality, easily the biggest impact any black had in getting people talking. So is he the leader of BLM?

2017-10-27 02:29:53 UTC

Talcum x? How is he the leader? He's not as popular or big in the media as kaepernick so how could he be the leader

2017-10-27 02:30:00 UTC

Was Charlottesville really a disaster? Seems like they successfully got their point across

2017-10-27 02:30:05 UTC

the alt-right haven't effected any policy change yet
what they _have_ done is turn large numbers of people pro-white, which is more than any other contemporary US group

2017-10-27 02:30:32 UTC

sure, they aren't the most effective group in the world, but they're the most effective group over there

2017-10-27 02:30:59 UTC

Why do you think nobody took them seriously?

2017-10-27 02:31:13 UTC

@Nothing what?

2017-10-27 02:31:27 UTC

fucking reread my post, then kys

2017-10-27 02:31:56 UTC

god damn this is retarded......

2017-10-27 02:32:00 UTC

I honestly don't believe you're arguing in good faith right now

2017-10-27 02:32:14 UTC

the alt right isnt performing literal magic, so their movement is garbage!!!!!1111

2017-10-27 02:32:16 UTC

bad faith

2017-10-27 02:33:16 UTC

Me: The alt-right isn't as effective as some groups, but it's the best contemporary group in its location
You: OH WELL IF THE ALT-RIGHT IS FUCKING PERFECT THEN WHY TRY ANYTHING ELSE?!

2017-10-27 02:34:01 UTC

no, thats spot on

2017-10-27 02:34:04 UTC

Alright i think this is enough from you Nothing, you are really paranoid and your arguments are downright retarded, I'm gonna have to let you go

2017-10-27 02:34:23 UTC

yep

2017-10-27 02:34:34 UTC

Lmfao

2017-10-27 02:35:18 UTC

wew

2017-10-27 02:38:32 UTC

Was interesting...

2017-10-27 02:38:58 UTC

He's probably gonna have an aneurysm now, I genuinely couldn't understand his logic

2017-10-27 02:39:54 UTC

I'm pretty sure that by the end of it he wasn't trying to reason about it

2017-10-27 02:58:20 UTC

Spergs gonna sperg...

2017-10-27 02:58:25 UTC

Lol

2017-10-27 23:50:01 UTC

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2017-10-28 09:13:10 UTC

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2017-10-28 09:13:17 UTC

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2017-10-28 16:50:26 UTC

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2017-10-28 16:58:08 UTC

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2017-10-28 16:59:03 UTC

Ss educated in pagan occult

2017-10-28 17:28:37 UTC

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2017-10-28 17:55:56 UTC

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2017-10-28 17:56:03 UTC

The man had a unique and novel vision, even for a man of the Reich, didn't he.. It's a shame things turned out the way that they did..

2017-10-28 18:03:34 UTC

Good heavens did humanity miss the train..

2017-10-29 04:07:31 UTC

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2017-10-29 15:00:55 UTC

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2017-10-29 15:01:28 UTC

I like that quote

2017-10-29 15:01:44 UTC

It's Jared Taylor

2017-10-29 15:18:03 UTC

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2017-10-30 22:54:09 UTC

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2017-10-31 00:30:30 UTC

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2017-10-31 01:06:27 UTC

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2017-10-31 03:16:47 UTC

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2017-10-31 11:03:24 UTC

Theyre the same thing

2017-10-31 11:03:28 UTC

To put it simply, yes they are the same thing. ย Fascism and National Socialism were two ideologies used in Italy and Germany, ย those ideologies both have the same inner essence/soul but differ in some exterior features since Italy and Germany are two different nations/people's.

what we follow here on this forum is that same essence/soul that was behind National Socialism and Fascism. A lot of people get confused with this point because they are overly concerned with the outside appearance or features of Fascism or NS and associate themselves with that instead of pealing off the exterior ( ideology) and discovering the interior/essense ( the worldview). ย 

We call ourย worldview Fascism but we could just as easily call it something else, a lot of people just refer to it as the truth. The important part is that both National Socialism and Fascism were ideologies that were used to make German and Italian society become more in harmony with nature/ the truths of the world. ย We here on Ironmarch also want our respective societies to be in perfect harmony with natural laws so we share the same worldview as the Fascists and Nazis of last century. ย The ideologies that we will use in the future will no doubt be different from NS and Italian Fascism, but the essense will be the same. ย Our goal(worldview) is the same but how we reach itย (an ideology) will have to be different depending on the conditions at hand.

2017-10-31 11:30:16 UTC

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2017-10-31 14:08:43 UTC

National socialism and fascism are not the same thing. Look at Italy compared to Germany in WWII for instance Mussolini thought Hitler's ideas on race were ridiculous, and rejected the idea of nationalism.Under fascism the state is everything. Under national socialism your race is at the heart of everything

2017-10-31 14:09:25 UTC

Yes there were similarities (namely wishing to improve their countries)but that does Not make them the same thing

2017-10-31 14:09:49 UTC

It's like saying cats and dogs are the same thing because they're both animals or saying blacks and whites are the same because they may look different doesn't mean they don't both have souls man. Even understanding their policies should prove what you're saying as wrong. No offense, sir

2017-10-31 14:12:08 UTC

Basically one of the biggest differences is that a fascist government can be multicultural. A national socialist system cannot. Not to mention under fascism the people collected are meant to serve the state which is at the head of everything (understand the fasces)

2017-10-31 14:16:07 UTC

Also look at the roman republic(which was fascist) it was not remotely ns, and fell apart as they became more multicultural. There's tons of material on this subject but this is one of my favorites.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/stopbadscience.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/difference-between-national-socialism-and-fascism/amp/

2017-10-31 16:41:29 UTC

Your thinking of them as ideologies and not of representations of an eternal truth

2017-10-31 16:42:34 UTC

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2017-10-31 16:51:07 UTC

That's not an argument

2017-10-31 16:51:48 UTC

You're making these into what you want them to be instead of seeing them for what they actually are

2017-10-31 17:02:34 UTC

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2017-10-31 17:07:31 UTC
2017-10-31 17:07:42 UTC

Watch plox

2017-10-31 17:08:15 UTC
2017-10-31 17:11:31 UTC

This is a total crock of bs lol

2017-10-31 17:11:35 UTC

I'm sorry

2017-10-31 17:12:03 UTC

Fascism has nothing to do with race

2017-10-31 17:12:16 UTC

^

2017-10-31 17:12:31 UTC

Just read the Doctrine of Fascism by Benito Mussolini

2017-10-31 17:13:07 UTC

Everything else is basically made up

2017-10-31 17:13:18 UTC

โ˜๐Ÿป

2017-10-31 17:13:46 UTC

Mussolini stated, "Fascism was born... out of a profound, perennial need of this our Aryan race".

2017-10-31 17:15:08 UTC

That may be, but it's not part of Fascism generally.

2017-10-31 17:15:42 UTC

Mussolini the creator of fascism declared it born out of aryan race

2017-10-31 17:15:46 UTC

Your goal postinf

2017-10-31 17:15:46 UTC

If fascism has nothing to do with race i want nothing to do with it

2017-10-31 17:16:05 UTC

It actually wasn't born out of race

2017-10-31 17:16:20 UTC

Systems which respect order in all forms are the only ones which are valuable

2017-10-31 17:16:21 UTC

It may have been born out of the race, but that doesn't make it racial.

2017-10-31 17:16:23 UTC

Mussolini actually adopted it as it was almost over

2017-10-31 17:16:35 UTC

Order of spirit, order of state, order of race.

2017-10-31 17:16:37 UTC

He just says Aryans need it, not that it's ABOUT Aryans

2017-10-31 17:16:43 UTC

And traditionally fascism has nothing to do with race

2017-10-31 17:17:02 UTC

Race is part of natural order

2017-10-31 17:17:10 UTC

Your assuming authoritarianism = fascism, fascism is racial

2017-10-31 17:17:19 UTC

Mussolini said so himself

2017-10-31 17:17:25 UTC

If a system leaves out racialism then it leaves out a key component to natural order.

2017-10-31 17:17:33 UTC

What?

2017-10-31 17:17:35 UTC

In before more made up iron march swill

2017-10-31 17:17:45 UTC

Not an argument

2017-10-31 17:18:14 UTC

>inb4 more things that contradict me

2017-10-31 17:18:19 UTC

Fascism isnt racist is such a kosher world view

2017-10-31 17:18:23 UTC

^

2017-10-31 17:18:29 UTC

Its sickening

2017-10-31 17:18:43 UTC

Ok then what of the Romans?

2017-10-31 17:18:46 UTC

The "natural order" is not necessarily something good in itself. It just needs to be taken into account when building a society. Otherwise it's a logical fallacy.

2017-10-31 17:19:01 UTC

Following the natural order does not sound good to me in that regard.

2017-10-31 17:19:27 UTC

Read the myth of the 20th century, rosenberg states the mixing of europeam blood caused the fall of the romans, also there was race laws in rome

2017-10-31 17:19:58 UTC
2017-10-31 17:20:32 UTC

And I've stated plenty of arguments. None of which you've even touched on. You just post more iron march bs that has no actual basis in reality or history

2017-10-31 17:20:39 UTC

And I've read it

2017-10-31 17:21:10 UTC

The history of fascism is racial, rome had racial hierarchy according to rosenberg

2017-10-31 17:21:44 UTC

Correlation =/= Causation

2017-10-31 17:21:53 UTC

In regards to the romans

2017-10-31 17:22:18 UTC

So the founder of modern fascism declared it racial, its predecessor was racial, what more do you want

2017-10-31 17:22:47 UTC

He didn't declare it racial from the statements you have given me

2017-10-31 17:23:19 UTC

If he meant to do that, he could have said it more clearly

2017-10-31 17:25:21 UTC

Mussolini was concerned with the low birth rates of theย white raceย in contrast to the African and Asian races. In 1928 he noted the high birth-rate of blacks in the United States, and that they had surpassed the population of whites in certain areas, such as Harlem in New York City. He described their greater racial consciousness in comparison with American whites as contributing to their growing strength.

2017-10-31 17:25:59 UTC

You still haven't shown that it's part of fascism, only that it's part of Mussolinis thinking

2017-10-31 17:26:57 UTC

Multiracial authoritarianism is communism lad

2017-10-31 17:27:14 UTC

The only possible argument you could make is saying that ideologies evolve.

2017-10-31 17:28:20 UTC

I think all of you are forgetting the basic fact that collectivism as a whole is cancer and that the Nazi's views on race were barely scientific and very misconceived.

2017-10-31 17:28:43 UTC

^christcuck is am anti racist

2017-10-31 17:28:56 UTC

I'd argue against Fascism as well as National Socialism.

2017-10-31 17:36:07 UTC

where did i ever say i did not believe in different races?

2017-10-31 17:36:17 UTC

Actually the nazis in the third Reich were leaps and bounds ahead of the rest of the world in the realm of science and eugenics

2017-10-31 17:37:19 UTC

is the Nationalist Socialist "race realism" the only true one? kind of sounds like the "settled science" argument.

2017-10-31 17:38:13 UTC

@Thomas Morrow thats why i said their views were very misconceived.

2017-10-31 17:38:13 UTC

You can be a race realist without being a national socialist. I'm a national socialist because I believe it to be the best system

2017-10-31 17:38:56 UTC

You also said they were barely scientific- which I contest

2017-10-31 17:41:07 UTC

yes, with what methods and knowledge we have now in comparison to theirs they were very pseudoscientific.

2017-10-31 17:42:05 UTC

In what way?

2017-10-31 17:42:46 UTC

Mengele was a genius

2017-10-31 17:46:10 UTC

they did what a good amount of modern day "scientists" do, they misconstrued data, came up with ridiculous terms and classifications, etc.

mengele was sadist retard.

2017-10-31 17:50:13 UTC

You're mistaken, sir. Given time they'd be way ahead of where we are now.

2017-10-31 17:52:12 UTC

They were able to discover more because there was less restrictions. You don't have to like him but he was a genius

2017-10-31 17:53:23 UTC

yes, i think that is a possibility as well, the only problem here is that there are still idiots out there who believe in science from 70+ years ago and see it as "settled", they are unwilling to except any new scientific discoveries that have come since.

2017-10-31 17:53:48 UTC

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2017-10-31 17:54:00 UTC

Sometimes the myth is greater than the actual

2017-10-31 17:54:23 UTC

I'd agree to an extent. What way are you meaning in this context? @Belisarius

2017-10-31 17:54:42 UTC

@chris#0919 dang, you sound just like the leftists.

2017-10-31 17:54:44 UTC

Like the myth of christ (lol im joking lad)

2017-10-31 17:56:37 UTC

Not myth as incorrect, myth as in occultism

2017-10-31 17:58:12 UTC

@Thomas Morrow i mean in the sense that there has been a great deal of progress in the study of ethnicity, past migrations, peoples and time periods. we know a great deal more now than the german scientists of the 1930-40's did. refusing any other kind of science that comes after what the germans knew then is pretty foolish.

2017-10-31 17:58:59 UTC

@chris#0919 changing the wording does not change the subject material. a myth is a lie, occultism is a lie.

2017-10-31 17:59:07 UTC

I agree. How is that relevant to the conversation we were having beforehand?

2017-10-31 17:59:52 UTC

aren't nationalist socialists for the One Truthโ„ข ?

2017-10-31 18:00:05 UTC

One truth?

2017-10-31 18:00:17 UTC

eternal truth, whatever its called.

2017-10-31 18:01:51 UTC

@Thomas Morrow it has to do with the conversation on facism and nationalist socialism, i mentioned that collectivism is cancer and the nazi's were flawed in their views on race.

2017-10-31 18:02:29 UTC

I genuinely don't know what you're talking about. I agree with the program of the nsdap

2017-10-31 18:02:57 UTC

And they were nationalists to the point of the race being the nation

2017-10-31 18:03:27 UTC

I believe you may be misinformed

2017-10-31 18:03:51 UTC

We were speaking of fascism not having anything to do with race

2017-10-31 18:05:07 UTC

And I wouldn't say national socialism is collectivist.

2017-10-31 18:05:39 UTC

You should take care of your own. Individualism is cancer

2017-10-31 18:08:03 UTC

Or at least it isn't strictly collectivist

2017-10-31 18:08:25 UTC

There's still private property etc

2017-10-31 18:11:41 UTC

there was a literal conversation going on about both ideologies views on race, noone bothered to tell me i was wrong about collectivism being cancer so only the point about race has been talked about.

the government does not have to be the middleman for improvements to the everyday life of the people. the government does not have to be your babysitter, making sure you are fed, providing you with transportation or education. once you let a government start the process of collectivisation it won't stop, it will get more and more intrusive and burdening to everyone. it is completely unnecessary.

2017-10-31 18:13:40 UTC

Have you ever read the program of the nsdap?

2017-10-31 18:14:32 UTC
2017-10-31 18:15:22 UTC

Because I believe you to be grossly misinformed

2017-10-31 18:15:28 UTC

the 25 point one?

2017-10-31 18:15:42 UTC

i'm not a natsoc historian.

2017-10-31 18:16:36 UTC

Let me see what I can dig up for you, sir

2017-10-31 18:16:54 UTC

I have a few pdfs somewhere

2017-10-31 18:17:02 UTC

you keep on claiming to believe that i am "misinformed", what am i "misinformed" on?

2017-10-31 18:17:28 UTC

that's not an argument.

2017-10-31 18:18:46 UTC

Because I don't have time to break down the entire political system for you. I mean no offense and if you'd like I can give you material to read

2017-10-31 18:19:02 UTC

i never asked you to.

2017-10-31 18:19:24 UTC

i never said "the nationalist socialists are wrong on everything!"

2017-10-31 18:19:45 UTC

Well I'd just about have to judging by your knowledge on the subject

2017-10-31 18:20:00 UTC

what am i saying that proves me to be "uninformed"?

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