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In case we get nuked

Yeah, the general tone in more brown than red/orange. I guess I thought more of the wood, then the leaves.

These are my favorites

yeah

Love it

It is great

Wow, lots of progress.

Nicely done!

Green one is the shit.

you should remove the text tho

and then we can vote on them with emotes

personal favorite

My vote

Good channel logo.

Err server logo.

This one too without the stars,

I love them all

I'm glad we liked the suggestion~ Three tiers really looks much cleaner, will be easier to stitch and all the sort. I like the one protected from rain for a server logo, and while I still vote for just the tree and background as a flag, the stripes are nice. Could potentially be territories' flags, each one a different hue. Who knows~

Agreed, lets see some 3 tiered versions if anyone has the time.

I'll bug Orchid to change the server logo.^^

I was talking about the trees, 3-tiered trees.

👌🏻

👌🏻

Oh.

I think a 3 striped field would look better too.

I agree about the tree as well though.

3 or 4 for the field, depends how much tricolour similarity we want. I was just kinda trying to point out that a fancy pine tree will be hard to draw for normal people, while most people can divide a paper into 4 or 5 evenly.

what the fuck

that's awesome

tried to make it look agressive

yeah it looks great dude

We should work more on music
Anyone got some skills regarding that?
I play piano, but thats it

I have negative musical talent.

i play the tenor saxophone

I wish I played Viola. Someday maybe.

Ok, should we try to create cover songs?

someone singing?

that would certainly be interesting

lmao

Its great to hold up the morale

I think we should start making up more slogans in general, preferrably simple ones that basically state things like "Race mixing is bad", although in a much more normie-friendly way.

yes

Although i'm sure the Alt-Right has us covered in that regard. I just want to contribute some of the things i've been thinking about lately.

Is "Preserve your heritage" a better way to say "race mixing is bad"?

Yes.

maybe the slogan "preserve your heritage" in front of a collage of pictures from european culture

Yeah, I think so, but it also sounds very meek when compared to the slogans the left has made.

hm

I think to be normie friendly, a slogan would have to be disguised as a leftist idea. For example, I don't believe preserve your heritage would work, it sounds like something any kind of supremacist would say. But something like, celebrate or embrace our differences , would be a good place to start

It seems to promote diversity, when in reality it promotes segregation

And gives it a friendly spin

"embrace eachother's differences" on a, again, collage of pictures of european culture and it's achievements

Yes. Something like that

There will be many people that will require change in degrees. For those it's better to introduce them to Alt-lite shit and stick with them to gradually win them over to the truth.

Maybe we should word it like a principal to follow through life? One of the things that sold me on Anarcho-Capitalism was the Non-Aggression Principal, maybe we could do something similar for ourselves?

What about starting with "respect all cultures". From here we would define respect as, separate, by arguing the only way to respect a culture is to not appropriate it to yours

The left has already done most of the work on that front, and by embracing that idea we'd be much more palitable

hm

If normies start from a point of respecting all cultures, it could lead them to discovering and respecting their own

Interesting line of thinkning, it may work for some.

Probably only brain dead leftists though.

The vast majority of people think "cultural apporpriation" is BS, justifiably so.

Good point

I think the first step is to get normies comfortable with the idea that cultures are diffrent and separate from one another

@Arnar I operate on the rule of preserving and bettering members of my ethnic group being the arbiter of good. Mostly because that way of thinking is something that comes naturally to people. The who reason altruistic behavior exists, from an evolutionary perspective, is to continue on the survival of your genetics. For example giving your brother or son food when he is hungry makes to more likely to live and pass on the genetics that you have.

It's not the NAP, but it's similar

I think the message that in order to celibrate and enjoy different people and cultures, it's necessary to preserve them, and if we dilute those people and cultures, they will cease to be valuable and different is a good one. Maybe in different words.

I agree rin

It has the added bonus of being completely accurate and true.

And it comes of as supporting diversity

Right.

@Goldstein Alright, I like it. We could also have something like "Even if the Race Realists are wrong, I'd rather not test my luck by dating a Somalian girl instead of a Norwegian"

i really like these contributions you guys are making

keep up the good work

Protect diversity - mate with your own kind

O dam, I think protect diversity is a perfect place to start

what

I also think we should focus on civic nationalists instead of leftists

infiltrate the donald

will this somehow co-inside with the "white ethnostate" part of the plan

It's vague enough to were people would blindly embrace it, from there you keep adding more ideology and defining what it means

gradually adding on to anyone who is slowly opening their eyes

I thought this was gonna be a line of propaganda to gain more mainstream acceptance

or that

Similar ideas could be used to subvert far leftists into supporting segregation more openly

For example, using the same arguments and propaganda but disguised as a black segregationist group

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

well if they "find out" and think we're lying about shit that'll turn them away

Very true. But we're not lying if we get someone who actually agrees with us to promote it

An alliance of some sort with a black separatist group may be benifical

We'd have similar goals

so a black separatist group that thinks we're all also black would promote us

i would think that would attract niggers instead of fellow whites

The problem with black separatists, is that while we agree with them in theory, it's hard to work with them because they don't like whites very much.

We should acutally try to redpill people of other races into ethno nationalism, this will destroy the leftists basis

No a ethno centered group, diffrent from our own, who what their own ethno state and would pick up support among their own group and promote the idea of segregation generally

@P14 yes!

but of course no one except whites will be accepted into our community 😃

Yes

well of course

Dont think im suggesting to be muliracial 😄 haha

but if we somehow create other types of ethnic nationalist groups

they might try to claim any land

Yes!

we would've wanted to get

Antifa and Black Supremacists are having a falling out, though. We should be focusing on Antifa rather than blacks. Antifa is filled with white people, and those are the people we should be focusing on.

That's kinda fat off ram3n

yes

Sounds like we have to focus on everyone 😂

Antifa is a nothing burger. Focus on normies that you detect are on the fence.

If there were multiple ethno national groups, each wanting a ethno state for their own people, the groups together could get a lot more done than any one group alone

>cooperating with other races

Although I can see where you're coming from by suggesting we appeal to black seperatists, that still wouldn't solve the issue. Realistically, we'd end up with another refugee crisis, because relocating that many blacks to Africa and such places would just be a death sentence for most of them.

good

less blacks = whiter america

I'm thinking it shake out more as dividing the USA into like 4 ethno states

4 warring ethno states

because of tribalism and shit

Better than the shit we got now

well true

And the whites would have no problem winning any conflict

we'd demolish the melting pot culture of america

and replace it with monoculturalism, which leads to a more stable america

It's way more realistic to start of dividing everything then winning it back through conquest

And yes

nigger tribes would divide over dumb reasons and so whites could swoop in and take their territory

Yes, so in short all ethno movement are our allies, as long as they believe in segregation and a state for their own people

possible alliance with asians however

We won't be re-locating them to places with any valuable resources

I hate to be a dick, but are y'all just larping?

No, just got de-railed a bit

Shit like that is so far off, it's a waste of thought right now

honestly this conversation we're having is probably larping

but yeah all the serious efforts are not larping

we've contact multiple white nationalist groups about this

pretty larpy

sweet

I'm serious about getting together with ethno groups of any color

what did they say

its not larp at this point

idk ask orchid

^ @P14

we just need to plan out for a small span of time

planning too far into the future will burn us out

found that in the thread

looks awesome

Many other such ethno nationalist groups such as the North West Front are larpers to the core

and FBI magnets

mhm

This notion of the white ethnostate in the north west is becoming more and more popular

Antifa are larpers too, but they still manage to spread the ideology of Communism.

I think we have to get more real, yes

But yeah, what I've been thinking about saying, is this:

We need to acutally develop a structure, not necessariky a political one, but certain institutions like education should be there

On this discord

In order to get real, there needs to be more routine and regularity. We could hold weekly meeting for example.

when was the last time we had a meeting anyway

last saturday or so?

friday

I think

well, doesnt really matter

fridays would be a good time I guess, or saturdays

We need to get a more "revolutionary" spirit, follow the footsteps of Anarchists from the 80's up until now. If we can steal communism's thunder of being known as "The fun" ideology, then we'll be golden

we are the fun ideology

We need to show that

people aren't interested in having children or families though however

a lot of people don't anyway, as it seems

Because, from my experience, I know plenty of older guys who lean on the Marxist side now but used to be full-blown communists "back in the day". That basically shows that just being exposed to an ideology during your early years can have a lasting impact on what you believe in

I think we need to train ourselfs in rethoric

@P14 explain

Larp as leftists and challenge each other

I've seen other groups do it.

It's rather effective.

@Lorenzo btw welcome

Well, there is stuff out there on YouTube about rethoric. We could practice holding a speech planned and sponaneously

Thank you @ram3n

Not all of us will be public speakers.

But I think it is most important to hold meetings!!!

Where/how

Yes, but some may discover their potential @Lorenzo

On this discord

It does make sense, just holding a meeting every week to strengthen our bonds

We've had a meeting already, will probably have a second in a couple weeks.

Good @Rin

Maybe a weekm, depends on how much there is to discuss and how many new people we get.

We need to replace Marxism with Ethno-Centrism.

We dont need to discuss a lot, its more about getting to know each other.

natsoc

Natsoc would actually be preferred, yeah.

We're trying to appeal to whites after all. I doubt anuddah shoah is ever gonna happen, at worst we'll just end up with what we have now but whites benefit from it.

Which won't be that bad from our points of view.

A white ethnostate shouldnt include jews, jews are another race obviously.

obviously we'll just include whites

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxc0LFMTzMI

What would you do for race mixed people

who are part white and identify as white

This is a question that causes a lot of fence sitters to shy away from ethno-nationalism

my basic rule for determining it is if they are atleast 75% european/white and show mostly european features

then they're allowed in

as we could breed out that mongrelization

I don't think there are enough race mixed people for it to matter

It's why I think it would just be down to choice

those who want to remain in the ethno-state could as long as they asymilate themselves into whites

those who don't can leave to their "parent" countries

another question :

What are your tactics when you're trying to redpill someone towards ethnonationalism?

Offline, I mean

How can you break people's perception of white nationalism? a lot of people see it as an evil thing

and it's difficult to break that in face to face conversations

you cant do it with a single conversation

it requires changing someones worldview on many different things

I just mean for close friends and relatives

It's not something done over night, I know this from my own experience

and most importantly that person needs to be capable of accepting opinions that the mainstream strongly disapproves of, and most people do not have the courage to do that

I'm trying to redpill my Norwegian friend irl, pretty sure i've at least managed to make him not want to marry outside his race, which is really all I could ask for.

What specifically do you want to redpill him on?

the end goal is ethno-nationalism

For me, personally, I mean.

hear hear

i don't speak for Arna

Ethno states used to be reserved to larping oon 4chan but the movement is growing not only in numbers but also maturity in thinking

We understand that we must think in concrete and realistic terms

I don't know what I wanna red-pill my friend on besides being against interracial stuff, i'm not exactly a natsoc my self so I don't know what I can redpill him on.

He must understand the overal picture of the world today, many people don't, they still perceive things through the mainstream lens ie. "we are taking in people to help them" is one view which is held by well intentioned individuals but which is ultimately completely false

what i like to do is tell someone that the west has killed 2 million people in Iraq based on nothing, Baghdad was carpet bombed at night and the world didn't blink an eye, does he really think that the same stock of politicians today cares any deal about the plight of these people now?

I've made one of my leftist friends admit that it is sad to see white people disapear in their own home nations, by making a parallel with palestine

the truth is that mass immigration is completely organised and allowed for very different reasons than what the masses are told

when cutting a tree, start at the base

I was talking to him about Swedistan from the start, and he's had some bad experiences with immigrants from his time spent in Norway, so I think that he was already against mass immigration before we met, but now that he's in Iceland, i've turned his sentiments into concrete opinion.

I've made it a point to show him how much better he probably feels being here in a white-majority town with no mosques and no muslims compared to Oslo by always pointing out how absurd his stories about immigrants sound.

He showed me a chat he once had with a Muslim immigrant girl where she was telling him how she wants to marry him and have babies with him, so it's pretty easy for me to show him why he should appreciate being among whites

damn

I realize that I might sound like highly trained member of the Israeli Special Subversive Task Force, but i'm not treating my friend like just another pawn or something

He genuinely is my friend, I'm just trying to red pill him on the sly

I had a conversation two days ago with a friend of mine, she teaches middle school and was working in Brussels for half a year. All her students were foreigners, Arabs, Blacks you name it. When the hebdo attack happened in France they were tasked to sensibilize the children to terrorism and teach them that it is wrong. Given that they themselves are white they thought it best to let the most well behaved student come infront of the class and say something about the event. When asked what she thought of it she responded "It is a good thing, Mohammed cannot be rediculed". The teachers were shocked

Working on redpilling all around me, to some degree 😎

Got my parents from the "Normal" rightwing party that started this immigration shit in sweden to the Sweden Democrats (basically the AfD or UKIP of Sweden)

And gotten several friends increasingly redpilled

This kind of stuff happens daily all across Belgium, recently too there were teachers who went public when some of their students put their fingers on their throats and made a "killing" gesture to other children. They seem to also like to exclaim "Allah akbar" on the playground, it was being talked about nation wide but im very skeptical that the same morons who let all of this happen have the wit to mitigate it

We had a police called Peter Stormare who went viral because he simply reported (to the public, without any names and so on) what crimes had been done during 1 month or a week, can't remember, and he simply said how many were swedish/foreign