Up where you are it might work better though

I already lose 800$ a paycheque so canada can fund israel and mass immigration

And other stupid shit

Paying taxes supports white genocide

i know @Ulrich the Great never built a house cuz 100k for a shack is a joke...ever hear of really nice house in say tennessee or georgia like 3500sqft for like 250k brand new...well thats because you can build something close to 3000 sqft for 100k ...so you get land a big azz house payy all the workers and the ((developer)) and its only 250k hmm i must be missing something

yeah, you gotta transport the building equipment to a remote location

and our own roads will have to be built

Build a simple cabin out of trees on your land, id you legally can use no electricity and compost your shit

oh right its soo hard you need a lot of shekels for that ...would you like me to post a youtube video of navy men building an office building with hand saws and hammers during WWII...they didnt need heavy machines

hm.....how would I watch anime?

@Ulrich the Great seriously though how many houses have you built

Theres many tutorials online on building simple cabins for 5000$

I helped my Grandpa build 3

ok and they cost 300k

@Ulrich the Great On your phone with a hand-crank charger

good enough

what if I wanna play super smash bros?

are we talking canadian pesos

cuz if we are talking US dollaridoos cost of materials for a 3bd 2ba ranch would be maybe 30k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P73REgj-3UE

All you need is a simple cabin, with a wood chip bathroom to compost mounds

Cost ya 5k for a nice one

no females would want to live in that

^ we actually agree on something

My gf does

Women do what you tell em too

Doesnt matter what they want

she gon bleed all over everything

State enforced burqas

I gotra get up in 5hrs for work

Daily reminder that there is no shame in mobile homes until better housing can be constructed

They can be bought used and cheaply and driven right onto the property and clustered together

@K_Wagner a kit house can be built in 3 weeks and a house built on site is cheaper than a trailer

thats a new trailer not used of course

That is true

The image choice was very jewish and underhanded of me

haha whats jewish about that

False advertising is inherently jewish lol

But even of these puppers will keep the women out of the elements

ahh the walter white special now talk about a getting a boost to the local economy

Women will do what they are told

I just blew some water out of my nose laughing at that haha

The walter white thing

Yeah let's just become a white nationalist methamphetamine cartel, what could go wrong

Not the women thing, mine will go where I go, I just don't want her freezing to death

Sounds like aryan brotherhood lol

im not the only one thats thought of starting a cartel here

You want a visit from the atf? That's how you get Ruby Ridge'd/Waco'd

After and if the government collapses is another story

honestly wouldnt it be fun to redpill a fed and have a double agent

I think that only happens in Dr. Pierce's fanfics

after the collapse it would be a great way to barter for other good and a fun way to destablize POC communities.

No, because nigs on crack is potentially the only thing worse than regular nigs.

how would we even be able to grow coca plants? I'm thinking of a flower that grows in afaganistan or the dank sticky icky.

nothing while the US government is still in power though.

Greenhouses and white ingenuity, clearly. Point is I don't much like the idea of other human species on drugs.

@Nix niggers aren't people and half of the spics in america are meztitos so I see no problem selling to them.

They're separate species, my man, but you wouldn't want pit bulls on drugs so you don't want other dangerous animals on drugs.

just look at the british giving their "subjects" war gin to pacify them.

@Nix how are they going to get to us? after the US collapse gas will being brought in from the south. So, their tricked out escalades won't be functional and niggers wouldn't be able to plan a 3 or 4 day march to attack us.

*stop

We don't want subjects, we want a separate place where non whites aren't encouraged to go.

And we're not betting on US collapse, not now, and _not_ over a server that can be easily monitored. We just want a little place to ourselves.

@Nix this is all hypothetical. NONE of our conversation is real.

Yes, but it is in the planning phase, and I am straight saying it's a bad plan to give the lesser species drugs.

I see no problem giving out depressants.

Our own people could get them, for one.

Fine, we can drop the topic for now. If we could figure out a way to farm oil palms indoors, we'd never have to worry about fuel.

Why wouldn't a basic green house be sufficient for oil palms?

Engaging in drug trade is degeneracy. I'm even against marijuana but I'm sure lots of people will disagree with me

I hate weed as well. All it does is normalize that shit.

Why wouldn't a basic green house be sufficient for oil palms? - That would be a YUGE greenhouse.

Marijuana disgusts me

+

The smell, the slovenly demeanor and slowed wits if those who use it.. It's literally a one-way ticket to a negroid state of existence for the user.

*of those

The British and Japanese used opioids this way to conquer China. Make a people apathetic and cognitively retarded and you have a race of subservient slaves. What we need is not delegalization, but a Dutuerte-inspired purge.

I'd love nothing more

Keep the streets clean

Oil palms grow to be 60 ft tall, so a normal greenhouse probably wouldn't work. I know for fruit trees pot size can limit growth, i don't know if palms can be limited aswell.

All drugs are degenerate, what I hate about weed tho, is the fact that smoking weed in on itself will not kill you, but will only prolong your degenerate behavior and slowly manifest its harmful side effects (Eg, "Slowed Wits").

And ironically, the very fact that it will not kill you is used as an argument by weed enthusiasts.

"It doesn't kill you so it's not bad for you."

Anyone who's ever had to regularly deal with a habitual user knows the lobotomizing effect it has on the brain.

>DuuuUUDE weed LMAO

>coFFEe is adrUg too LOL

@dsp fries it I don't think palms can be kept down to the same extent that fruit trees because of the growth pattern.

hello all

what's this i hear about a cartel

you're not very informed on how plants work

@Ammianus Marcellinus i used to smoke weed and now honestly i regret it

you separate the females for the same reason, be it smoking or fiber production, if the plant is fertilized, it spends energy on producing seed, instead of growing tall and fat

i'd rather not have anything grow even remotely close to our town that can be considered a drug

Oh, this infograph again...

>Its Da GOVBERMENTS LOOL

IT'S PURELY RECREATIONAL DUUUUDE

cocaine, prostitution, meth, and heroin are purely recreational but people don't advocate for them now do they

>b-but muh e-epilepsia a-and c-cancer treatment

Literally just a painkiller

back when i used to smoke it

my only upside was that it helped my stutter a little bit

that's about it

yeah, I bet opioids help with stutters too

i would think that the only drug i'd really be okay with is growing tobacco and rolling our own cigars or something

I dont buy any deep government/corporate conspiracies to the effect of 'these companies all sat together in a smoky room and made a decision,' but if you look at hearst's impact on hemp regulation, there was financial motive that drove his involvement

it got lobbied into illegallity in the pre-ww2 era by paper magnates

tbh, when you see these 'legalize-Hemp' movements they're really just a coverup for drug production.

so, sure, the white guy with the dreads and rasta hat probably isnt planning to open up a hemp paper factory

I was about to say that lol

the black kid selling weed for 15 dollars a pop is gonna become an entrepreneur for hemp

he ain't do nothin' wrong

alcohol is derrived from a chemical process known as distillation

so is opium ok? if i just bleed the poppy, let the milk dry and smoke it?

Alcohol has been embedded into our culture for millenia

It also isn't as harmul in small portions

It doesn't kill neurons

so you're abandoning that line and chosing a plea to tradition

only slows the growth of new ones in teenagers

Well, yes I see the problems with that

So, the thing about drawing lines and making rules, is that it is in human nature to challenge these things

thats why an average bill that goes before the senate is literally too big to read

reverse-reverse-reverse lawyering with words to stamp out ways around things, amongst other stuff

make your lines on your soul, and enforce them in your home, and hold your brothers to your standards as you would want them to do the same to you

'this should be illegal, this should be regulated,' every inch you give the government to make life easier for you takes a thousand miles of walking to get back

just, you know, be careful

If consumed in excess it damages the dendrites of neurons

its easy to give up enough rope for a bad actor to tie your own noose with

that's pretty much it... and yes alcohol can definitely be harmful to vital organs, just not brain cells

alcohol is bad for you. tobacco is demonstably bad for you. pot is bad for you. plastic bottles are bad for you

dont do them, teach your children not to do them, dont hang around people that do them, decry those that do them to excess as degenerates

or dont

the central point here is you, your person, your beliefs, your values

if you strawman me like again, ill ban you. take that how you will

this is not the place for you to bang on about your beliefs and then act like a child when someone challenges you on them

What? What I showed there was a common pothead argument

Not that you were implying that...

oh well then, thats a completely different thing

before you said anything

There's no place for greentext on here?

move it to offtopic

Lion - Today at 6:48 PM
>muh normalization

Ok, sorry

I fully support weed for people with cancer. No kidding.

Otherwise it should be pnished the same way a alcohol?

If you drive while under influence of weed you should be punishd hard

@Lion something like this??

Weed has harmful effects, alcohol does so too, alcohol only replaced water as the christains banned the mrthod of purifying water as they considered it a pagan ritual

1. Marijuana is a neurotoxin. Neurotoxins are poisonous or destructive to nerve tissue (causing neurotoxicity).

www.sciencealert.com

2. Casual use alters the nucleus accumbens, associated with reward and pleasure.

www.healthline.com

3. You will be less happy and motivated permanently as the brains of chronic users produce less dopamine.

www.biologicalpsychiatryjournal.com

4. Marijuana lowers IQ. By an average of 6-8 points.

www.forbes.com

www.pnas.org

5.One in 10 users develop dependence to Marijuana. Regular use of cannabis in adolescence doubles the risk of early school leaving and of cognitive impairment and psychoses in adulthood. Regular cannabis use in adolescence is strongly associated with the use of other illicit drugs. 

These associates persist after controlling for plausible confounding variables in longitudinal studies.

www.onlinelibrary.wiley.com

6. Marijuana induces schizophrenia like brain changes, which may result in  psychosis.

www.psychcentral.com

www.livescience.com

www.medicalnewstoday.com

7. Marijuana can cause pulmonary disease.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Shit the links are hyper links and fucked up

https://volkischmanual.tumblr.com/DrugFree

^ has the proper hyperlinks for source

@SS-Harambe something like that but the Elaeis guineensis (palm used for commercial production commonly) grows 20 meters tall with a single central stalk.

@Lion The center is usually like 5-10 meters tall. So this wouldn't work. However I'm sure it's possible to build it if you use a half circle/eclipse shape thing it would probably be achievable. Grant it you'd probably have to build downwards as well as upwards.

@SS-Harambe Yea excavating could get you extra space but Id rather just use the greenhouse for food production with out the extra costs of extra tall building over a deep pit. Really it comes down to whats appropriate for your area and getting your biofuel from palm trees that have to be babied is not cost effective in the least.

@Lion we could use dwarf olive trees for oil. the yield would be less than oil palms, but still usable.

Honestly though, canola or sunflowers are the only plants that would make sense for large scale cultivation.

@dsp fries it canola? oh you mean rapeseed....Why can't we call it rapeseed oil. LOL but no you will want perennial trees over annuals. Again olive trees have to be babied as they are not native and the food value is more then the biofuel returns as far as I would understand. A perfect solution exists for your problem keep researching.

@Lion bamboo to be gassifed and burned? It could also be burned for heat/steam.

...trees dude stick to trees. Bamboo has a shit ton of variety though I don't know of any fuel options for it. Coppiced and pollarding trees is good for fuel wood and gassification. Just need to get enough accarage into a multi year rotation that you are replenishing more then you are taking.

#repealthe21st

Give me one good reason why we shouldn't repeal the 21st amendment

(You can't)

Because we aren't prudes. Most of the group is okay with the occasional drink, just not alcoholism.

I was more looking for arguments on why it wouldn't be effective. In it's efficiency sure but also it's cutdown on degeneracy, drunk driving and sociopathy

If no one had alcohol, drunk driving, drunk interpersonal conflict and drunk promiscuity wouldn't occur

@Orchid what's the possibility of us all going dutch on a single giant piece of land?

and just splitting it up into even parcels?

well hmmm i dont like the idea of subdividing land and having individual ownership ...maybe as a first site but going forward that really wouldnt work...im not a communist but the land should be cheap enough that like you wouldnt mind not owning your own piece evenly divided like it would be basically paying admission instead of having sole control over your land ...fuk i sound like a commie i promise im not trying to

that sounds pretty communits lol. I have no interest in that kind of arrangment ^

well it might be a way for us to buy land in bulk, and then splitting it into lots

so we'd still have complete sole ownership of our own lots

we wouldn't be "sharing" the land

as for simply buying a large chunk of land and splitting it up, its certainly doable, but it depends on what you hope to accomplish with that strategy.

maybe have one area where we have a common park, etc.

i know its hard to describe, im just saying that there should be steward of the land where the vast majority of which will fall into

yeah it gets a little complicated

the strategy I like better is just going to a place that already has cheap land and decent infrastructure

why would that be beneficial to sole ownership?

and then encourage people to buy their own lots as time goes on

i dont see the purpose of running a community where everyone gets 10 acres instead of everyone getting 1 and basically sharing or using the 9 together

so we achieve a point of "saturation"

thats sounds like it would just create a lof of conflict

which is why it would be put into a trust of sorts with a steward of fiduciary duty

sounds like a terrible system with nothing to recommend it, private ownership has worked beautifully for Europeans for millenia

not saying its perfect but its better than subdividing large swaths of land into little pieces

@Orlunu well, it wasn't common for the average European to own land

why?

the king owned the land

@Marlow yes

and the peasants worked it

rented land is also privately owned

it could be like an HOA or covenant system

where we own the land, but we get together and set some standards and define use of common areas

like parks, etc.

that sounds like the best idea to me

or DNR land

I have nothing agains other people participating in that kind of system, but personally I have no interest in getting involved in something like that. I like having my own land

you can have your own land the issue with that is that who will produce who would want to take away fro their land to lets say build a greenhouse for everyone...who will put the community barn on their property or will you have to build a barn for everyone

I will have my own land, it will not be shared. Though having agreements between fellow men in the community about keeping our land looking nice, that's fine. But it will be us that keeps our land looking good.

@thatdudeiscool brings up a good point

it's better and easier if we have a few shared resources and buildings

so we will not have a central power station that will most cost effectively provide it will be individualized

In a rural community, it might just be better to set up your own individual power supply

how do other farmers and homesteaders do it these days?

what we really need is a single wealthy dude to buy up around a hundred or so acres, and then parcel out lots for people who want to buy them

well a farmer wont sell their tilled acreage...its the only part that generates a product so it is off limits otherwise you have no farm no matter how many descendants may take it over one day and wish to divide it

and then parts of the land could have communal buildings or resources

im sure there are normal, legal ways to purchase multiple lots from a single seller

yeah but isn't that functionally the same thing?

yeah, the funny thing with the collective ownership being most effective thing is that it's literally always failed

yeah it never works

and lefty communes try it over and over again

@Orlunu a farm can exist a a family for hundreds of years without a clear beneficiary and its still technically shared or collectivized land to the family

yeah but there's always a sole owner, or it can be held in a trust

though I don't know a whole lot about the legal mumbo jumbo with that

missing some important word early on there, but family ownership and community collective ownership are very much the same thing

unless we're going to have a community patriarch in this model who makes the decisions for the "household"

so fi you cant portion off a majority of the ladn for uses like farming who will be able to farm

What?

it doesnt matter but if you do not use community funding for certain projects you will never be a community...i could jsut farm and sell it to china if it was up to me

but the community expects community treatment without the investment

none of what you're saying matches history

there have been plenty of non-communist communities

this is not a government with millions of people

again, non-sequitur

didn't say it was

i dont think you need any kind of a collective owndership to have a functioning community. There are otherways to ensure the strength of a community, such as normal personal relationships

yeah it doesn't need to be codified into rule

because small communities already operate along strong communal ties

they're functionally socialst, without being explicitly politically socialist

ehh are they?

in what way?

yeah if your neighbor needs help raising a barn

@Orchid if you can interpret charity as "socialism"

you're going to help him

without asking for compensation

it's not even charity

it's just being neighborly

they also started when land could be bought for 5 bucks an acre...if i could buy land for that it wouldnt be a problem with needing to essentially crowdfund

ah alright

charity is a more accurate term for it than socialism

but we get what we mean

so it doesn't matter

if your friend has a sick kid and is struggling to pay for treatment, you're probably going to pitch in a few hundred, or even thousand

but charity has this connotation of helping "the lesser"

mmmh

in this case I wouldn't be giving my bro charity