Already posted this in Maine, but here it is again, the book is worth reading

Here are my notes form reading Carnegie:
1. Dont criticise
2.Pay honest tribute
3.Remember people's names and use them
4.Listen closely and encourage your conversational partner to talk
5.Talk about things that your conversational partner is interested it
6.Avoid any argument

Now, this is also part of my notes, but I don't know if it was part of Carnegie's book, or something else, anyways, here it is:

Four types of personalities. If you figure out which one your conversational partner is, it will be easy for you to manipulate them. The categories are:
1.Dominance
2.Harmony
3.Balance
4.Stimulant
I don't remember how they were defined, but I guess its not hard to figure out.

Effective phrases to use when trying to convince someone:
1.You don't have to do this
2.I don't know if you want this
3.Now that we're done

General tips:
-get attention
-keep it simple
-repeat

Plato (Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, Phaedo)
Aristotle (a selection)
Thomas Aquinas - Summa Theologica
Niccolo Machiavelli - The Prince
Thomas Hobbes - Leviathan
Jean Jacques Rousseau - The Social Contract
Adam Smith - Wealth of Nations
Thomas Paine - Common Sense
John Stuart Mill - On Liberty
Hegel - The Philosophy of Right
Friedrich Nietzsche - On the Genealogy of Morality
Karl Marx - Das Kapital
Adolf Hitler - Mein Kampf
George Orwell - Animal Farm & 1984
John Rawls - A theory of justice

https://www.amazon.com/Way-Men-Jack-Donovan/dp/0985452307/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1507198730&sr=8-1

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13572289-the-way-of-men

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443680/

http://files.libertyfund.org/files/869/0161_Bk.pdf

Leviathan, by Thomas Hobbes, a great philosopher.

It's about the need for the masses to have some form of governance over them. It's a good way to understand why anarchies fail again and again, and why the state is a nessecary evil.

https://mega.nz/#F!kd5w1ZYI!xPhi-lbqNQooP_b0xzLkGQ

The mega link is a collection of academic studies (that you generally have to pay for) in PDF format that you can download. They are all about the effects of ethnic diversity on societies

https://lirias.kuleuven.be/bitstream/123456789/84600/1/diversity_irpp.pdf
Another study on the effects of ethnic diversity on social cohesion. I'm not sure if it's in the mega link.

https://selfdefinition.org/christian/Gospel-of-Thomas-Scholars-Version-15-pages-1961.pdf
The gospel of thomas, a religious text that was not included in the Bible. It's a great read and not very long, and has some pretty good quotes in it.

https://libcom.org/files/Robert%20O.%20Paxton-The%20Anatomy%20of%20Fascism%20%20-Knopf%20(2004).pdf

The Anatomy of Fascism, by Robert E. Paxton. A good book on fascism, written by a historian/political theorist that has studied fascism all his life. It's pretty objective and certainly doesn't support fascism.

http://aryanism.net/downloads/books/corneliu-codreanu/for-my-legionaries.pdf

For my Legionaries, by Corneliu Codreanu, a fascist in Romania during WW2. It's an interseting read for those who are interested in history, and it covers a lot about Romania's role in the war and how people responded to the violence there. It's also interesting for people who, like I, study political theory and want some primary sources on fascist ideology instead of secondary sources.

And that's everything I have to recomend for now, and everything I can give in pdf form. I'll post some other stuff tomorrow, hopefully, getting a lot of books coming in, stuff on anarchism and some works by Noam Chomsky, which should interesting.

Good finds Lorenzo

Have any of you read Republic by Plato? I'm thinking about getting a copy from the library.

@Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips#6115 I have it, but I've never read it. If you're going for the classics, I would advise Aristotle.

thanks

@Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips#6115 If you want aristotle, I recommend The Great Books of The Western World, Volume's 8 and 9

you can find copies for like 8-10 bucks

I second reading aristotle, alot of his works can be found for free on the internet too.

https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/o/orwell/george/o79a/contents.html
Finished reading Animal Farm. It's not a long book and kind of amusing. I would suggest you read it, shouldn't take long.

Thanks for the link @P14#2043

my book on the finnish winter war is so fucking lit and really motivates me

made me (continuing in /sig/ general)

what's sig general?

Self Improvement General

it's a popular general on pol

I meant our own channel, selfimprovement general 😅

Just started listening to Fash the Nation, it's pretty good. We'll informed on current politics but from a right wind perspective https://therightstuff.biz/category/fash-the-nation/

Yeah, it‘s pretty good

https://therightstuff.biz/

Fash the Nation and The Daily Shoah are both fantastic

Yeah, listening to FTN right now xD

The Latter Day Pamphlets, by Thomas Carlyle

Finished Spengler's Decline of the West a few weeks ago. I discussed the book with some old students too. I'm not too experienced in Philosophy of History at the moment, so I'm working on it right now.

@P14 Animal farm is one of the greatest satirical books I've read. I suppose you're familiar with 1984 as well?

Id be surprised if anyone here hasnt read 1984

I've recently been studying Philosophy of History, and I've found that supplements to such works are invaluable. On a similar note, there are few works that summate philosophy and its history to the degree that is possible to sufficiently understand both. For this I recommend Kenny's A New History of Western Philosophy. It was thoroughly useful. It is a good introduction to general philosophy and is relatively new, and I've got a digital (PDF) file if anyone is interested -- it is in four volumes.

I want to compile a list of essential reading on various topics, including Philosophy (metaphysics, logic, etc.), Politics (specifically right wing), homesteading, survival, etc. If you have an idea of a book that is a good read to get into a topic, @ me in this channel and I will throw it into a list. Eventually, we will have a list with essential readings and then books to delve deeper into the topics.

@Polak before you read anything to do with history i would reccomend first going over the book "The Decline of The West" by oswald spengler. very good philosophical book on history.

@Belisarius noted. Will add under History/Philospophy. Thank you for the suggestion.

@Polak A plan to add books one-by-one over time? Is there a base of books you have collected already in this list?

I've got a great many books to share.

you can post them all here anytime

@User Not really, I‘ve only read the first chapter. I hope I‘m going to have time to read all of it soon.

1984 is definitely also necessary to read. I also read Animal Farm first. mostly because of its slim size, though I've had to reread it many times because of that same reason.

@P14 Have you read Spengler's Decline of the West yet?

I was discussing it earlier, and am hoping to find those who have already read it here.

@User No, I haven‘t.

Don't have a list made up at the moment. This channel has a lot of reccomendations, but I want to organize them under topics.

Ok. I'll make sure to add to the list.

There is this list @Polak

Plato (Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, Phaedo)
Aristotle (a selection)
Thomas Aquinas - Summa Theologica
Niccolo Machiavelli - The Prince
Thomas Hobbes - Leviathan
Jean Jacques Rousseau - The Social Contract
Adam Smith - Wealth of Nations
Thomas Paine - Common Sense
John Stuart Mill - On Liberty
Hegel - The Philosophy of Right
Friedrich Nietzsche - On the Genealogy of Morality
Karl Marx - Das Kapital
Adolf Hitler - Mein Kampf
George Orwell - Animal Farm & 1984
John Rawls - A theory of justice

Only philosophy though.

i like the /lit/ document

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/mobilebasic?pli=1

https://wrathoftheawakenedsaxon.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/revolt-against-the-modern-world-julius-evola.pdf

A great right wing Italian philosopher, here he writes about traditionalism and the importance of it. He coined the phrase "Revolt against the modern world" with this book of the same title.

https://youtu.be/Z7Gc1bv-Mj4

An interesting video, that isn't very long, and mentions a book I think we would appreciate. I haven't found it online yet (also haven't bothered to look yet,) but I'll post it here if I find it.

@P14 Thanks for the recommendations. Those are a lot of good books on philosophy to start with.

@Lorenzo empires last for much longer than 250 years

the reason Rome fell was for a complex amount of reasons. It's amazing it lasted for so long, there was constant fighting in a change of power. Generals after winning battles would use their army to overthrow the emperor

plus they had a plague that was weakening their borders

but the economic inequality is incredibly true

@Roman Dreams I don't defend the opinion of the video/author I posted. I only posted it to share stuff. I think the 250 year thing isn't a limit, but an average for most empires.

could be a peek golden year

History moves alot faster today than it did 2000 years ago, so I'm not sure it even makes sense to measure the life-span of empires in years, or even try to find some consistent life-span.

but the paralells between America and the Roman Empire are significant

I don't think so, America is much more complex and stable

but wealth inequality and social degeneracy are concerning

@wizzy The guy who made that document calls himself a marxist. However, I've read through the document before, and it doesn't look bad. Very good material and chronology for introductory philosophy.

As someone that already has somewhat of an undergraduate-level understanding of philosophy, there was still a lot of useful knowledge (there is other good information too, such as which publishers to avoid when purchasing books and why).

Has anyone else read through the /lit/ philosophy document?

I haven't

Is it good?

: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/mobilebasic?pli=1 For a broad introduction yes.

A very useful book I've found myself using is "How to Read a Book" (by Mortimer Adley).

Here's it is for anyone interested (if you want another format, ask)

Socrates views on borders and citizenship (he was the first CUCK of the West) :
https://agora.stanford.edu/agora/libArticles2/brown/brown.pdf

We've had some discussion in <#362535345146953728> on making a list for reading. We need a service that allows members of this service to add and sort books by subject.

This should allow room for some chronology of books (like understanding different types of political ideas) and notes to guide people unfamiliar with those topics. The google document above is what may serve as a source of ideas for how to do this sort of organizing, I suppose.

https://www.scribd.com/mobile/document/356105019/Anthony-Burgess-The-Wanting-Seed

The wanting seed is about an over populated world and the fall out because of it.

Homosexuality is publicly practiced by everyone since the state enforces it to limit the population

privately people are still heterosexual

eventually there's anarchy and everyone begins to eat each other

and finally a new government again comes back and begins a pointless war

You've read it yourself already?

@User yeah, I enjoyed it

it has a subtext that feels fitting for this group

Sounds like it is worth giving a read.

>Overpopulation

>It's all the white man's fault!

>White people should have less children haha!

>European countries facing population decline