I wont be able to come, also what will be watched?

np, its totally optional. I'm gonna keep the film a mystery

I hope its not hollywood 😃

oh shit

did i miss the film?

I'm not sure what "9 PM" it is, and I'm a bit too lazy to figure out what time it is *across the pond*

basically 4 hours and 6 minutes left

9PM EST.

no, it will be in 50 mins

I am at school. About to start class in a half hour. Will getvout at 8 30 or so.

hey guys, heres the link to the room, tell me if it works https://www.rabb.it/r/ryd9lx

@Orchid it works

alright

@everyone ill start in about 2 mins

oh ;__; Right as I'm going to bed

hehe

3 am and all

ohwell, nxt one well do over the weekend at an earlier hour

@Orchid what movie are we watching

its gonna be a western

oh ok

looks like we have just 3 people, guess will start anyway

its starting

Cant fullscreen this shit?

guess not

@Rin you can

actually

click on the ... button and choose fullscreen

yeah

^

That's not really fullscreen but okay.

yea doesnt look like theres a way to get rid of the thing on the right

It's fine, this is better than it was.

fun fact, he does end up selling shoes irl

Hey guys, just got home. I think I'm gonna skip this one. If you have another planned I'm usually free after 9pm central everynight and all of thursday and sunday.

alirght np

https://www.rabb.it/r/ryd9lx

Hello

Just got out of school

ill set the next one on sunday at 9pm, does that sound good?

Yeah. That works.

ill see if i can make it, i might have a movie that night as well.

let me know when youl have yours

Back in a bit.

not me specifically ofcourse, ill be watching your announcments page

yeah that movie came out in 2005, very underrated

its hard to sell that kind of a movie

our official movie club is tommorow night. gonna watch a short doumentary about why modern art is so awful, that may sound boring but it is very interesting, the guy is a bad ass, destroys post-modernism.

ill be there

Is it still possible to post recommendations for movies for Sunday?

Why sunday? Saturday would be better

This may be interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZEmwbIpc5Y

I'd like to suggest triumph of will. Not all of us are storm fags, but we can at least all appreciate the great film.

suggestions are still open

film is still being decided

but im narrowing down ideas

have you done Excalibur yet?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082348/

no, but a good classic would be nice

what about war films

It should be something educational.

from hollywood

xD

Nah

I see this is difficult

We could watch murdoch murdoch

they got shoah'd again

no

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCB7YwRZBMGsoUHfWMRw2MgA/videos

still on

oh nvm, i thought the reichkening got shoah'd

mb

https://youtu.be/RIrcB1sAN8I

something educational

22mins isnt much

https://youtu.be/-UQznyK2Pr8

Empire of dust

they live

Ooh, empire of dust is really good! 😄

I would be up for that

based chinese dude has to herd some dindus

Let's watch it!

just looked up the music that was playing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kginjgdN70k

pretty good

https://alternativeright.blog/2017/10/03/dark-m-night-white-flight-the-village/

Anyone seen this one? This article made me curious.

nope

The setting and lot seems strangely relevant to our project and what we're trying to accomplish.

*and plot

interesting

From the article:
"By contrast, “The Village” is a somewhat oblique social commentary masquerading as a spooky horror film. It doesn’t advertise itself as something controversial; you have to scratch to find what is in fact gutsy and shocking about it. Critics are vaguely aware that it isn’t kosher, but they aren’t sure why.

The setting of the movie appears to be a 19th-century utopian community, which sits in a picturesque valley surrounded by dark woods. The woods are said to be inhabited by monsters, known to the townsfolk as “Those We Don’t Speak Of.” Long ago, a truce was reached between the townspeople and the monsters: if the people stay in the valley, the monsters will leave them alone.

Beyond the woods, we are told, are places called “the towns.” The elders of the village warn vaguely that the towns are evil places, best avoided.

Most of the people in the village seem perfectly happy staying put. However, some of the younger folk have some curiosity about the world outside their home.

Without bogging down in the details of the plot, I will say that it eventually becomes necessary for a young woman to make a terrifying journey through the woods and to “the towns.” It is when she makes it to her destination that we find out the movie’s “twist.” Instead of taking place in the 19th century, the setting is in fact the present. The elders of the village, we discover, are Americans who, about three decades ago, decided to flee the decadence and corruption of the modern world and set up an agrarian community inside a nature preserve somewhere in Pennsylvania.

Apparently, these settlers elected to set the clock back and behave as though the 20th century had never existed. They took on not only old-style dress and lifestyle but also (and less plausibly) dialect. In order to keep their children from straying back into modern life, they made up the myth of monsters dwelling in the woods who will not bother the townsfolk as long as they remain in the valley."

"The townsfolk live by mores that today have largely been abandoned. Traditional sex roles are embraced; women are in charge of housework and child-rearing duties, while men labor in the fields. Boys and girls are required to obey their parents. Sexual repression is viewed as necessary in order to keep the families together. The patriarch of the community, for instance, refrains from taking up with a certain widow — though it is clear he is attracted to her — because he is a married man. (Compare that decision with the radically different choice made by a “patriarch” of our country a few years ago!)

In spite of their outmoded customs, and in spite of the fact that the village elders have deceitfully concocted a lie about the monsters and simplistically painted “the towns” as havens of vice and depravity, the movie does not condemn the elders for their decision to secede from the 20th century and shun the 21st. In fact, scenes that take place in “the towns” prominently feature newspaper headlines and radio reports of murder and mayhem, which serve to underline the notion that perhaps the settlers chose wisely to leave when they did.

At the movie’s end, when the elders decide to rededicate themselves to keeping their community going following a period of crisis, the viewer is relieved: it would have been disappointing indeed if they had chosen to fold up their tents and slink back toward Gomorrah.

The boldest aspect of the film’s critique of modernity is also its most subtle, but it is apparent upon reflection. Is it really only a coincidence that the townsfolk are all white? And given that crime is cited relentlessly as a reason for avoiding “the towns,” is it such a stretch to call the villagers white separatists, who have left a world beset by social breakdown brought on by multicultural chaos, where whites are not infrequent victims of robbery, rape, and murder?"

It could be that M. Night Shyamalan, as a non-white director, can get away with implying that traditional sexual morality and racial homogeneity may actually be desirable things, even for whites.

"Lord knows the heat Mel Gibson would take for making any such implication. Still, white advocates should be gracious enough to accept the sympathetic overtures Shyamalan appears to be making — however guardedly — on their behalf."

The Village is great, but I haven't seen it in forever 😄

Damn, that is pretty good.

The Village was quite enjoyable

im thinking of another film club, this time on saturday 6pm

Is that 2 am cet?

🤔

Saturday sounds good

thats 11pm cet

this saturday? today?

@everyone next film club is 9.5 hours from now

noice

5 hours away!

and hour and a half away

what film?

^

still deciding, likely some sort of a classic

You do these every Saturday?

ive been doing them once a week, but the times have varied

is it supposed to be more artistic?

@everyone film club starting in 10 minutes

https://www.rabb.it/orchid14

What's the movie? @Orchid

assassination of jesse james

awesome movie

nice

I've never seen it 👌

It's a great movie, but I saw it really recently

It's really good, but the ending killed me FeelsBadMan

post ideas for movies you guys would want to watch next

Chinatown

FUXK

i missed iy

it

fucking hell i had work

Fucc I missed book club 😠

history documentaries

@Orchid Hellstorm

Triumph of the Will

Godzilla movies

Anime movies

Something halloween themed

No anime movies, please.

Agreed, no animes pls

if we do get enough demand for it though, I only really support Gibbli.

we wont

Murdoch Murdoch would be acceptable

Eh, even that I don't really enjoy. Apart the Last Son of the West

I must confess I don't watch murdoch anymore

murdoch was a funny novel thing

I just got bored of it after a bit

the youtube censorship video was funny though

Not a fan of anime but berserk is the exception.

For everyone that is participating in the book club, we are going to be reading The Anatomy of Fascism (thanks for the find @Lorenzo).

Two weeks from today, we will meet up and discuss the book. Exact times will be posted closer to the date.

You can find the pdf at the link below, or purchase the book from Amazon for ~$10.

https://libcom.org/files/Robert%20O.%20Paxton-The%20Anatomy%20of%20Fascism%20%20-Knopf%20(2004).pdf

Awesome!

audible has it as well:

https://www.audible.com/pd/History/The-Anatomy-of-Fascism-Audiobook/B06XXRHVGP/ref=a_search_c4_1_1_srImg?qid=1507495336&sr=1-1

That's quite a bit for two weeks, especially when you're participating in 2 bookclubs xD

Yeah, i know maine and sig run a book club too, so doing all 3 can be grueling. At least its not one week, 50pgs a day would be a real challenge on top of everythimg else

sig? can you send me the link?

i dindn't know there was a discord for that

@Polak

I dont have a link but i know @MKUltra can make one

dude sweet. i always wanted to read that book

awesome, then it was a good choice

>listen to the anatomy of fascism
>its on my family's amazon account
>Anon, why are you listening to a book about facism?

my family hates fascism since my grandparents had a bad time with Nazis in Italy

they just occupied the village and would randomly murder Italians

Berserk is really lit anime tbh

really?

there has to be a bigger reason then just hurr durr lets kill to kill @Roman Dreams . i dont mean to come off ss a little shit to your grandpa. im sorry

shieeet, did they actually ask you? @Roman Dreams

they didn't ask

@Ghostler they weren't very cooperative with the Nazis, since being the rural community was independent and didn't care about the politics of fascism. So a lot of people would hide in the mountains to avoid being forced to help soldiers

they were farmers who just didn't want to be involved in a war

O hek

Anyone catch the new Blader Runner? Just watched the original yesterday and absolutely loved it. I've heard the new one is good as well.

I do want to see it, heard some good things

watched it with the company a few days back

rented out a whole thatre room

i think it might be better than the original

some people consider it heresy or whatever, but i don't say it lightly, it's not knocking on the original, i just don't think that the new one could have been much better

minus a few minor gripes

it's everything a sequel or remake should be, hyper respectful of the source material, riffs on the same things that made the original great, doesn't sell out to 'current market trends' etc. overall a REALLY good movie, but LONG

3 hours, go prepared.

Its so good

I love it. I hope the Asian sales bring the movie a good profit

The book is actually really good idea about taking a pill to be happy or get in a curtain mood.

@here Lets do next filmclub on sat 8pm

Sounds good.

If any of you really wants to attend but 8pm is not a good time, let me know

Also incase you guys forgot, there is an ongoing book club, see <#359510857207775233>

may or may not be with people on a saturday night

8pm GMT ?

est

thats 12am gmt

theres an ongoing filclub in main colony if anyones interested, watching Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid

Good I love a good western. they almost make me wish I was American.

reminder that the film club is 4.5 hr from now

yes

@here Also a reminder that the bookclub will convene next weekend, when we will discuss what we're currently reading. Check the announcements for more details if you want to participate.

Thomas Carlyle's Latter Day Pamphlets is an interesting read.

I read 50 pages on anatomy of fascism last night

I would meme it as
Fascism
>muh feels
>muh no doctrines

Yeah a big part of fascism is tapping into the frustrated feelings of the population.

Don't think it's wrong to do so, emotions can't be completely written off as useless. But fascism doesn't have one specific doctrine. Each movement is different and a different doctrine is adopted for each once it has matured enough.

@Roman Dreams How do you feel about the book so far? I like how the author attacks the topic.

@Polak it feels fresh, my education of fascism ended with high school courses which never went into enough autistic detail

How many of you are participating in the book club, and how is the reading progressing?

I've read through excerpts of this book before (so I suppose I will complete it), and I am wondering what sort of discussion will be held in two weeks?

It will likely be over voice, this is our first book club so I'm not sure what to expect. I suppose we will discuss our opinions on what we read. The book club will actually happen this coming saturday. But if people really need more time there might be an extension.

I've already the book.

I don't mind doing it via text, really.

paging @Polak

I am planning on doing a voice chat for the book, but If more people would participate for a text discussion, I would consider it.

The book club will be held on Sunday, roughly ~10pm EST. I need to get a proper count on how will be attending so that we can find the optimal time for those who want to attend.

@everyone, if you have been reading the book and plan on attending the book club, @ me in this channel so I can get a head count. Make sure to include the time intervals you are available this sunday.

@Polak ive been reading but I don't think i'll be able to finish it by Sunday, also 10 pm is usually my bed time

on a Sunday

@Polak I'll be there, although I don't know if I'll be online when you do it. I can write about the book the next day though, but I'll let you know. I'm on holiday now, so I have the time to stay up

Ill be there, text and voice are both fine with me

gotta say, this was a good choice of a book

I will join. I work that day at 4 so I might be home when it starts

@here I'm going to hold another film club tomorrow at 9pm eastern/8pm central. Gonna watch Bladerunner

https://www.amazon.com/Writings-Nietzsche-Modern-Library-Classics/dp/0679783393/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1508559591&sr=1-4&keywords=nietzsche

YES!

have you read do androids dream of electric sheep

I have not

its what the movie is based from and uses the robot function as a way of us using pills. like get robotic implants and put in a code to make you happy, horny, energized etc

These are good lists, if anyone wants good book recommendations

Myth of 20th century - rosenberg

Or youtube the myth - rosenberg too ( more fun)

@here https://www.rabb.it/orchid14

watching bladerunner in 5 mins

sorry, it wont let me speak on the site @Orchid - taking off within 5 mins btw :3 Gonna play a game of league and then go to sleep

np

found an interesting book today

In off work are we starting

I'm*

starting what, the meeting?

@everyone The book club is today! For this week, I am going to test it out over text in this channel. For the next meeting, we may attempt a voice discussion.

We read the Anatomy of Fascism, so I mocked up a few questions and possible talking points to keep in mind for the club meeting, which will be 10pm Eastern.

- From the descriptions of the coming to power of fascist leaders and parties, do you see any similarities to the current day? Do you believe a fascist leader could take power today?

- As stated in the text, do you find fascism's lack of a central doctrine a problem? Or does the absence of one enable fascist leaders to move more freely when pursuing goals?

- Related to above, do you believe that humans need detailed guidelines to live by or are more general rulesets fine?

Ex. Having a detailed workout routine, or going to the gym with the idea to work out certain ares of your body, but no specific workouts planned.

- The author focused on the coming into power of the fascists, a huge factor, he states, was the power and position held by conservatives who allied with the fascists. Do you believe that the fascists could have come into power without these conservative allies? How so?

- Why would a people support fascism (or authotarianism)? What would those who didn't support fascism do to fight it? The book seems to point that the fascists allied with the conservatives, do you believe opponents of fascism would side with the left to fight its rise (just as some liberals are doing now: joining the right to fight the marxists?)?

- General Topic of Discussion : Fascism as a system of government, authoritarianism, the book's approach, the writing style of the author & questions/topics you wish to bring up.

stop tagging me

@PebbЛe

@PebbЛe

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@PebbЛe

shoulda kept your mouth shut

@Polak Has it started now? Or can we post in our own time?

As for the book club wat is this