That is impossible in the modern day. Soy is used as a protien additive in animal feed and human food.

@Rin how would you explain the rise in gay and trans people other than an incease in soy in people's diets and ((them))?

Simple, It's become popular.

Cultural marxism

If you think eating something other than a dick is gonna make you gay, I don't know what to tell you.

kek

Your digestive tract has literal acid in it.

And all sorts of digestive enzymes that destroy complex molecules like estrogen.

So estrogen can't be absorbed by the body through food?

I'm not going to say absolutely no, but I find it highly unlikely.

Certainly not in any significat amount.

Not from normal foods.

Pharmaceutical estrogen pills maybe.

Men have always been gay. You can see evidence in every culture. However, they were always a tiny portion of the population. Now we have an unprecidented increase in gays that corrolates with a diet higher in soy. >inb4 correlation doesn't equal causation. Just look at food lables and tell me how many of them contain either soy meal or soybean oil. Then add the fact that most livestock feed is supplimented with soybeans for protien.

But....

Correlation doesn't equal causation....kek

Also, bottom line is that behavior used to be private, not celebrated and publically faulted in grotesque parades

Cultural marxism is just a better explanation all around.

Also, most of these "gays" nowdays grow out of it.

Which shows that it's more of a trend than a biological fact.

Are there really more gays today? What percentage did it used to be, and what is it now?

I don't see any evidence that it is inherently biological at all unless you consider effeminate physical characteristics as a reinforcer for the behavior. I really do believe it's a mental disorder.

I doubt it Orchid, they are being over reported now, and before they were severely uinderreported.

Also it's been made out to be "trendy"

i have no reason to believe more people are gay today either

Up until recently most gays would never self report themselves as gay.

That in itself explains the rise.

Add cultural marxism to that pot, and you get a recipe for modern day.

I agree. However science has proven that women who eat foods high in plant estrogen have a higher risk of cancer due to hormone imbalances.

So on that note does home-grown, organic produce nullify this?

Hormones cant be delivered orally I think. The pharmecutical pill arent hormones, they block the inhibitors in your body that keep your own hormones in check.

If you want to intake hormones, it has to be done via injection.

Besides is thewre even any evidence that "plant estrogen" even has any effect on humans?

Even if it could survive digestion?

no, estrogen is a naturally occuring hormone. Some plants like soy make a lot whereas others like corn don't. My point is that soy consumption increases estrogen in both men and women. http://www.pcrm.org/health/cancer-resources/ask/ask-the-expert-soy

lol did you read that before posting it?

"Plant estrogens do not eliminate all of estrogen's effects, but they do minimize them, apparently reducing breast cancer risk and menstrual symptoms."

They do the exact opposite of what you are saying.

Right, it affects women hormonally but not men for some reason.

"For men and boys, the phytoestrogens in soy do not appear to have any effect on hormone levels and have not been shown to affect sexual development or fertility. Research studies show that men consuming soy have less prostate cancer and better prostate cancer survival."

I wonder what that reason might be?

So at very most, it may make some women a bit more manly, that is if they managed to eat enough of it. And even that seems far fetched.

There are so many things that have much more drastic effects on your body and hormone levels that people do everyday.

Smoking for example.

It effects hormone levels in a meaningful way for women, so I don't eat it even though I'm a man.

Or even just being in a relationship, changes your hormone levels.

But it doesn't.

Show me a study where they made women eat soy everyday and thier breasts shrink.

Or they start liking women. Or start lactating.

"Plant estrogens do not eliminate all of estrogen's effects, but they do minimize them, apparently reducing breast cancer risk and menstrual symptoms." you just quoted it affecting women who consume it.

Yeah, but those aren't meaningful ways.

Meaningful negative ways at least.

If anything, they are just healthy.

I think we're gonna have to agree to disaggree on this point.

You do know that men have estrogen too right?

yes, both are made from cholesterol. they both serve a purpose in regulating our body.

Think about this, Soy comes from and is primarily consumed in the east, they probably have the lowest gay population in the world.

Explain that.

Japan in particular.

It's just become a fad in the west recently, withing= the last 15 years or so.

*within

MAybe it explains the little dicks. 😄

No, that wouldn't be right.... It blocks estrogen, so it would make dicks bigger if anything.

Maybe it explains all the boipussy in Thailand. kek

Seems a bit too localized though.

it has to do with how they consume it. They ferment it to remove/nulify the effects that soy enzymes and protien have on their diet. In the US we don't properly process the soy to remove the harmful parts. Most cooking oil contains soybean oil that is just squeezed out of the bean without processing it. https://www.johnleemd.com/about-soy-foods.html

Once again, did you read that? It says that the phytoestrogens are helpful, and that the ligins are what needs to be blocked, and that is done by incorporating seaweed into the diet.

If anything then, they encourage the phytoestrogens.

do you eat seaweed? I only eat it in sushi, soybean oil is a daily occurance.

But the ligins are not the same as phytoestrogens.

The lignins only block nutrient absorbtion, it has fuckall to do with estrogen or estrogen receptors.

Also, if you are so worried about this, why are you drinking Soy everyday? kek

Have you ever had the urge to have a dick in your hand after a glass?

Or in your ass?

The oil is in eveything. That is my concern.

Sorry bro, it's a nothing burger. Even a cursory glance at the science tells you so. Easterners do things to soy that encourage the phytoestrogens, not inhibit them. So it would stand to reason that if it made you gay, they would have a much higher percentage of gays.

Also, the relative amounts you are talking about here (soy oil additives) are so low that even if they had an effect, it would hardly be measurable.

It's the same as mercury in vaccines, people who don't understand science see it and freak out without any frame of reference for the quantities being used.

To the point where vaccine makers had to replace the mercury with something else totally unnecesarily.

Which is probably more harmful. kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHrCI9eSJGQ

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For all you gaming faggots

You can get Outlast for free

Only for a day though

How do you all feel about tattoos? Will degenerates like me who have one or two be shunned? lol

i think the kind of tattoo you have is important to consider

It's a Teutonic cross

Got it in my military days

Anyone got a S8 Note?

Err Note 8.

I have a tattoo, might get another 😄

@K_Wagner which branch?

USAF

cool

nah

army is "cool"

AF is.. "neat"

lol

neat

hahaha

lol

learned a lot though

yeah?

Yeah, even the most basic military service has its benefits

Countries with mandatory conscription may be onto something

What's the best way to fix a shitload of mp3 and m4x metadata/tags?

afd

nice

Doubleslit experiment. This is how you can imagine light to behave. Light behaves like a wave. When it go through one of the slits, it can be looked at as the center of new emerging waves.
Just spreading some knowledge.

Asian success is one of the best arguments for the relation between IQ and race

Socialism in Venezuela

nice

@P14 have you ever lucid dreamt before?

i've had the worst time trying to in the past

I had one lucid dream, but it was only half lucid, if you can say that. It didnt feel as real as its supposed to.

oh ok

And a few times where I realized I was dreaming but then woke up or sth.

rip

I am trying it again at the moment, its hard

yeah

i agree

Dream Journal is key

oh?

like writing down what you remember from your dreasm right

dreams

yes

this will make your dreams more vivid, you will remember them better and combined with reality checks you will be lucid dreaming quite fast

The times I came close were the time when I really kept my dream journal

i might have to try it then

lol

Do try it

Seats in German parliament

What does it mean

Is the globalist out?

not yet

https://youtu.be/k6C9BuXe2RM

https://youtu.be/tdGAdsym22Q

If I ever become a Catholic it will be because of Goebbels and SSPX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGcLPQcXePU

mm

https://countryeconomy.com/national-debt/germany

German debt is going down

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11065/germany-merkel-pyrrhic-victory

The design of this website is horrible. They also look malevolent.

This looks way better

Agreed lol, Nordfront looks horrible 😄

web design sure has advanced since 2004

Hey

anyone wanna see some cute spoders?

no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkllFXIsV6M

http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/cbenzmueller/papers/C40.pdf

phone call

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gish%20Gallop

https://logfall.wordpress.com/proof-by-verbosity/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_intimidation

what

Something from VC I said I would post earlier.

oh ok

I know what a shotgun argument is.

That isn't what we were doing or what you had described.

No, they aren't exactly the same.

Just a general overload of really intricate and complicated arguments.

That's why I put all three there.

Shotgun argument is listed as a synonym of Gish Gollup

I see.

Yeah, that's not really accurate.

Okay, perhaps they are somewhat loosely related.

The last one is probably the most applicable, but I've always considered the Gish Gallop a sort of overarching term for overload tactics. According to the current definitions though, it includes lying, which isn't always necessarily true in my opinion.

>lest they have to admit their ignorance and lack of understanding.
... Well, maybe if idiots weren't making claims then they wouldn't have to be shat on by people who have a better understanding of the concept.

This applies only when the your being coerced into something by concepts over your head. In this case, we were breaking down the terrible arguments that you yourselves did not even understand.

If you are looking to persuade anyone of anything, calling them idiots isn't going to get you very far. And it's not so much about a lack of understanding it's a bout making arguments concise enough to digest and rebut without getting overly complicated and obscure. As I said, the vast majority of people you meet will have zero experience with metaphysics and philosophy of this depth. The object of discourse is understanding, needlessly complicating things is antagonistic to that goal.

I don't have the aim of persuading you.

I have the aim of preventing you from acting stupid in the future

Why are you so triggered? No one has resorted to calling you names or being aggressive towards you. Are you trying to compensate for something?

Kek

I'm curious, do you have a girlfriend?

I am acting as I was in the chat

You are reading it with a diferent tone because you can't hear my voice.

And because you can try to spin this argument before the spectation of the server.

If you called me an idiot or stupid in chat, I must have missed it. I assure you I would have responded.

So is that a no? No girlfriend?

Maybe you were tending to the kids everytime we said so.

>>>

That hook doesn't even have bait my friend

No bait, genuine interest.

I never called you an idiot directly.

Indirectly.

You could have done well to avoid it.

>Yeah, I said that there was no bait.

My only goal is to understand someone when I speak to them, If you interpret that as idiocy because they don't agree with you in the end, I'm not sure I can help that.

So girlfriend or no?

>In the end
In the beginning

All throughout.

But it WAS interesting.

It was.

And I wouldn't call you an idiot because we have different point of views.

*points of view

My insult applies to the beginning. Here again you insist on the title of idiot. I'll give it to you if you want.

To the statements specifically really.

Well, you did say "you".

The great irony here is that we agree on 90% of everything and 100% on the points that matter.

"persuading you"

Yeah, we do.

I like you man, you just need to dull those sharp edges a bit. It will be too much for most people.

Maybe I need to sharpen mine, but I'm doing okay in general I think.

Anyone here into 'fringe' or emerging science? Like, anyone hear of "brane cosmology" ?

"emerging science"

hippies

kek

Seriously, though. It's a Big Bang origin theory, ties into the Eternal Universe

it seems weird frm what i see of it

or this: http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/royptb/370/1668/20140167.full.pdf

https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/iq-genes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTf8Y4XiUVQ&feature=youtu.be

@Primo 😄

but its sad that swedes have to fight swedes

the antifa here is full off swiss people

traitors

it's true but they have been fooled

but they were dumb enough to get fooled

so whatever

A lot of antifa are poc lol

poc?

people of colour

as in, not swedes or even european

i didn't know that

somalis are fucking weak

i saw a bunch of mugshots of them and they are clearly some low-t guys

and minorities

by the way, why don't swedish guys go out on friday and saturday? as i were in stockholm the women % was way higher

if i go out here it's baiscally a salami party

We're at home playing video games :>)

pretty much lol

Most people go out on the friday or saturday

Check out this guy, he makes very good videos about ancient Rome, Greece and more
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCv_vLHiWVBh_FR9vbeuiY-A/videos

This is pretty good. Will watch later

I put together this image about muttonchops, might as well post it 😅

I wanna be the second kind of muttonchops-owner 😄