damn

how old is she tho

well she kind of grouped all non-Hungarians into a category she called "people I hate"

lol

she would be about 43 today

I'm 40 so yea she would be 43

damn that's not so long ago

every older person i talk to here says it was generally smooth sailing in yugoslavia

it was communism etc but people lived much better than they do now that yugoslavia fell apart

that's interesting to know. She really was an interesting/smart woman, but she did have some pretty fucked up ideas. She was ultra-nationalist

even though it was communism we were always westernized

and I mean like "break out the gas" nationalist

our music from the 80s is filled with english words, and disco dancing

dunno if they had that in the ole USSR

See I think maybe you experienced a very different world in Yugoslavia than she did in ROmania

well i didn't experience shite

some older people i talk to did

She had one pair of bluejeans growing up and she quickly out grew them. then she got some homegrown clothing, but she showed me pics one time and I was like... damn that looks like something you'd find in afghanistan

Romania was hell on their Hungrians

lol dafaq

Hungarians*

FUck I can't spell or type today

thats ruff

about the hungarians i mean

Yea, but she was still fucking smart and beautiful. I sometimes really miss her

you still have barbara at least

But then I'm like, eh, she wanted more than what I did at the time. I hope she got it

ahhh yes my lingerie model future ex-waifu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEorEiio0f0&index=6&list=PL3210BC42768C6A88 fresh off the press in 1986 right out of ole commie yugoslavia

Those cymbals...hahahah. Any higher and dude would have to stand up to hit them.

those are the only cymbals we were allowed to have under communist rule

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS1E0kc580M

we need a Serbian war music text channel

I fancy this one from Urosevic though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtHFtsKR1zA

it's good, but I can't get the Sindjelic one out of my head ever since I visited the Cele-kula in Nish.

touching/horrifying stuff

What?

Slav talk confuses me...

Fuck, I'm American, anything from Europe confuses me.

I was talking about visiting this place

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_Tower

the song I linked is about this event

Damn.

So I'm watching that Orthodox Christmas service.

Interesting thing to watch

it's pretty cool

You know.. it's said Russia is secular... This dosen't look secular 😛

Its "secular" enough to not scare the globalists too much

otherwise its one of the closer nations we have to the old european understanding of the relationship between Church and State

I have noticed, that.. Like Mosques it seems the Orthodox Church is expanding

I think a Cathedral was finished being built a year back.

Down the road, actually.

And there's that new on in France to.

one*

I guess if Catholcism and Protestantism becomes incompetant enough, it's easy for conversion from them to orthodox. Protestantism lost its mysticism

Protestantism is collapsing in on itself except for the Evangelicals

protestantism > catholicism

Catholicism actually has the means for self revival given some very strong bishops we have

orthodox > everything else

imho

Protestantism is a religion of civilians

i have respect for lutherans

Luther was a unwashed peasant

I really dont

Methodists have cucked up horrendiously.

the protestants broke off out of hubris and arrogance after the attempt at reconciliation after the Counter-Reformation and continued to fracture and fuck up Europe for centuries

Yeah fuck protestants

the great schism was bad enough

My point is that Orthodoxy is like Catholcism with a central church and an organized high priesthood...

But they are like Protestantism as they /do/ have autonomy.

yeah

you mean the autocephely?

Luther was simply a lower caste man who just couldn't observe the protocol and the sacredness of the ritual

And wanted to boil everything down to his plebeian views and tastes

Namely, to democraticize and profane the religion

And from then on its just worse and worse

I guess, yeah, the Autoclephaly

You have that philosemitic bolshevik called Cromwell

And his gang of men funded by the Jews to overthrow monarchy and impose their pluralistic order

Against wishes of majority of Englishmen

As an Irishman, the idea that Cromwell was funded by Jews is news to me

do you have a sauce?

Yes, I do have ketchup, want some?

And as a top of the cake, the liberal, progressive, feminine, sensual cults of Quakerism, Calvinims and so on

I hate the man, but he was not as bad as some of the genocidal puritans and he wasnt as communistic as the levellers

The first thing he did when he came to power was lift ban on Jews settling in England

England prior to that had no Jewish population

'Judeo-Christian' this.. 'Judeo-Christian' that....

Honestly when I hear 'Judeo-Christian' it makes me cringe.

I never understood why Americans always went on and on about that Judeo-Christian thing

I always thought it was some kind of evangelical protestant obsession about moving all the Jews to Israel to kick off the end times or some shit

That's the other insane thing.

It's about bringging back Jesus.. by causing the apoclypse....

- -

>Trying to Trigger the apocalypse

>You shall not know the day nor the hour

Like

Christ Himself told us that

Glorious Revolution was funded as well by a Jew

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Lopes_Suasso

Odd the name doesnt sound Jewish

wait never mind

Neither did Rosenberg sound Jewish until they adopted it

He's Sephardic 😛

This is one of many coincidences though

In which Jews are behind revolutions

In which obviously, they do not take part as foot soldiers

It's all about the money.

I wondered how France could afford constantly destroying itself during the Revoltuion.

Revolution*

- -

I thought that was a masons thing though

the entire revolution

Money for a Jew is nothing but means to an end

I have lost my taste for anything secretive anymore.

If somthing needs to be kept secret, it needs to come out.

And I will set the Egyptians against the Egyptians: and they shall fight every one against his brother, and every one against his neighbour; city against city, and kingdom against kingdom.

3 And the spirit of Egypt shall fail in the midst thereof; and I will destroy the counsel thereof: and they shall seek to the idols, and to the charmers, and to them that have familiar spirits, and to the wizards.

4 And the Egyptians will I give over into the hand of a cruel lord; and a fierce king shall rule over them, saith the Lord, the Lord of hosts.

Orthodox Priests can't marry right?

I think they can

but cant become bishops

Monks cannot, regular priests can

I thought they couldn't.

Ah

I know the Eastern Rites of the Catholic Church are like the Orthodox in that respect

I still think Orthodoxy can very well expand westward with a Weak Catholic church and a Weaker Protestant Church. Even I can't deny... that the reason preotestants were even a thing was because of Greedy Kings.

I sincerely doubt that while Catholic Poland and the Catholic half of Ukraine remains hostile

it would have to be a Russian conquest and a forcible conversion

which would backfire massively

Ha!

Why have to go through them when you can simply go around?

The Weaker side is on the other side

through scandanavia?

France, Spain, Germany, The UK....

Even America.

Never going to happen, that is beyond a pipdream

thats like me hoping for a Catholic India

I never said they were going to take over.

I said that there is a higher chance of conversion.

well in the sense that I do agree a religion that takes itself much more seriously and has a real mysticism to it would be more attractive

^

but thats also the reason why Traditional catholic parishes and monastaries are growing

and why the current liberal hierarchy is trying and failing to crush it

but neither is going to happen

so long as Islam is a problem

Funny.

What concerns me not the state of Catholicism (And Christianity for that mater)

The World is lurching to the right, even the Religions..

It's the state of people who are Christians

the weak fecklessmajority?

Bunch of normies

People with little to no drive

Kind of people who would not know what to do if somebody slapped them

they will be caught off gaurd and we cannot predict what most of them will do

we havebeen conditioned for generations to be soft

I'd maul any fucker to slap me.

The most Orthodox people here, are just a bunch of civillians

most people are dude

Aren't we trying to shift the meaning of 'civilians' to the right?

My point here is quite pragmaic, but also you will notice, spiritual

The last thing a White man needs today

Is a conception of a global, that is, universalist religion where his relation to God is concieved through the mirror of "mankind"

Deism/

?

He is therefore just a part of globe

are you arguing for the atomisation of spirituality?

And all people, in fron of God, are his equals

Therefore he is eternally stuck to thinking globally, and concieving his position measuring himself according to, and with the "other" that is, with globe in his mind

Ugh.

Honestly hate that.

I think you are making a category error, one that has been propagated by liberal theology for decades now

The last thing White man needs today is to believe someone will come to rescure him, and that it is sufficient that he intellectually internalizes religion

a man's relation to God is to do with the salvation of his own soul first and foremost

God helps those whom helps themselves.

and the emphasis on the other, that is charity, has always been traditionally understood in gradients

And that the rest will come by virtue of his intellectual acnkowledgment of his position, or depravity if you will

family, community and kingdom

and alms to the poor

"a man's relation to God is to do with the salvation of his own soul first and foremost" Preciselly

Christian relation to God, that is

This kind of fatalism is what ultimately leads to abandonment of his natural self-identity

The kind of mindset White man needs today

So, instead of a global outlike

outlook*

Is a mindset of a man who believes that God or gods above him, consider him laughable

And couldn't give a flying fuck if he fails miserably

So he could pick up his sorry ass and fight

And earn favor of God or gods

And fight not for notions of "global good" or "universal truth", but fight for his esteem, his prestige

To fight to earn right to create and shape the world, or at least his own world, according to HIS own image

Not according to image of a global negro village

Help yourself to help your family, help your family to help your tribe, help your tribe to help your nation, help your nation to help the world.

Yourself should be 1st.

It shouldn't be the other way around

Yes, you could as well sum it up that way

But one should never underestimate White man's capacity to come up with a new self-defeating ideology

That formula you just laid out, it would be so typical of White man to just stop at one desired point, like for example, help his tribe, and that's it

He would then start advocating for world wide tribalism

He would make ideology out of it

For the sake of peace, beterness, goodness

Anarchists

He would probably makea church of tribalism and preach it like some sort of gospel

It would not occur to him that HIS organization has as a ultimate purpose HIS OWN betterment

Tirbalism must not be an evengelical religion...

That the sole reason he organized isnt because its globally good, but because it SERVES him

Tribalism*

Yes, I'm describing to you how Western man thinks

It must be encloased, in order to be included you need to marry into it..

I know.

It's 'Enlightened' thinking - -

Man, the Enlightenement was such a boon... woo...

oh yeah

and all that lovely book burning the enlightenment intellectuals did for us

Greg Johnson advocaetes for example for a world wide ethno-nationalism, because that is the only "just" and "fair" model

As if organization, of any kind, is goal unto itself

And everybody who does not think everyone should have a nation state is "hypocrite"

Ethno-Nationalism is meant to just be a cure to keep Europe Homogenous...

It's not a Cure-All for the fucking world

No he really thinks EVERY nation should have a state

I think for example that Europeans should organize in such way that is optimal FOR US

Then you have the National Socalists...

When did advocating for a goal "because it serves *us*" become a bad thing

Where they want to unite nations based on race and leave it like that.

If we need to form some sort of alliance or whatever, and that will help us, so be it

Why should Germany get rid of the refugees, isn't it humane to house them

"Maybe, but it doesn't serve *us*"

it's humane to shoot them, because impaling them on stakes would be too cruel

This self-thought is dangerious!

Double-Plus Bad Wrongthink!

*SlavPill and me are drinking, I disavow any comment made further in the chat

Cheers, Slavs!

In the past, all other people used to emulate West

But today, Western people have this innate, Christian-derived desire to *prophesize* models

And it does not occur even to right wingers

Now Right wing people want to export ethno-nationalism

Teach world tribalism

God no.

Teach whole world Imperialism and so on

This is meant for us, nobody else.

We don't forbid anyone obviously to do whatever they want, if emulating us proves beneficient to them, good for them

Maybe they will come up with something better

But Right Wing intellectual today will say "Oh you see, we cannot organize in such a way, because it won't work for Chinese"

Libertarian will say "We cannot let state control anything, because it sucked for Cambodia"

Why should we give a shit about anyone else? if they like our ideas let them try to come up with somthing better.

It even used to be like that within Europe itself

All other countries in Europe emulated Western model

Our own Monarchies here in the Balkans were modelled after Western ones

Western Europe used to be powerful

Our King brought an Italian architect to design the capital

Powerful, Rich...