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2017-03-09 17:29:29 UTC

@Mother www.truth.com

2017-03-09 17:29:42 UTC

I'm writing those lines now

2017-03-09 17:30:16 UTC

I feel no guilt for contributing to automation. Work is largely frivolous. Brett, who no longer comes here writes about the antiwork movement on amerika.org and puts out some quality writing on it.

2017-03-09 17:30:42 UTC

Good for you. You're doing the right thing.

2017-03-09 17:30:54 UTC

You just have to look at the trends man

2017-03-09 17:31:09 UTC

I did my bachelor's and then I said...hmmm

2017-03-09 17:31:18 UTC

IT makes more sense than doing a masters

2017-03-09 17:32:03 UTC

Now I have small IT company that consults, a family home and a rental condo.

More than I ever thought possible growing up near the beach in the Caribbean

2017-03-09 17:32:48 UTC

The economy doesnt care about how much your degree costs, it cares about the value you bring and the price you will charge for said value.

2017-03-09 17:32:50 UTC

What a waste a bachelors was, and I got mine from a tier one school. How naive to believe in this implied contract of lifelong corporatism and then defer living till old age. We went from farms to appenticeships to factories to corporate life for what?

2017-03-09 17:33:24 UTC

Good, your industry is stable and virtually recession proof. It'll be hard for you to sink.

2017-03-09 17:35:28 UTC

I want to get into IT security consulting, automated financial markets tradiing and cashflow positive websites.

then when the cashflow is nice enough, I can give some time to some school kids to promote STEM and rightist thinking. It's fun to see them pull of things they thought only MIT students can do

2017-03-09 17:36:14 UTC

One kid I helped years back before I started having my own kids, now he is doing CAD stuff. and he lived in the heart of the ghetto.

2017-03-09 17:36:42 UTC

Anyways, time for my mid-day walk

2017-03-09 17:37:02 UTC

I may be back tomorrow need to code later this afternoon.

See ya @Mother

2017-03-09 17:37:11 UTC

Thanks for chat and promotion

2017-03-09 17:37:47 UTC

Good talking. Catch up with you later.

2017-03-09 18:21:18 UTC

so, @Mother , you're saying that some nonwhite immigration would be ok as long as it's not mass immigration?

2017-03-09 18:21:29 UTC

that's a big step up but I would still like the ethnostate more

2017-03-09 18:21:32 UTC

at least for Europe

2017-03-09 18:21:39 UTC

we really don't need any africans or arabs

2017-03-09 18:21:43 UTC

or asians for that matter

2017-03-09 19:00:35 UTC

Yes @TheSlavPill the best of other races can come in with highly selective controlled immigration with maximum scrutiny on the positions they fill. Nothing that would change the ethnic makeup similar to how Japan does it.

2017-03-09 19:01:24 UTC

Asians are higher on the bell curve and have made a lot of progress after being colonized.

2017-03-09 19:02:34 UTC

I would only agree to that on one condition

2017-03-09 19:02:37 UTC

if it can be like china

2017-03-09 19:02:44 UTC

and its policy towards foreign labor

2017-03-09 19:02:55 UTC

basically most jobs are off limits, as chinese people can do them

2017-03-09 19:03:18 UTC

only jobs you can get are either higher up as economic advisors etc and language teachers

2017-03-09 19:03:23 UTC

also, you can never become chinese

2017-03-09 19:03:27 UTC

you will never get citizenship

2017-03-09 19:03:33 UTC

only a living permit

2017-03-09 19:03:39 UTC

for the time you work there

2017-03-09 19:03:48 UTC

i think that's fucken awesome

2017-03-09 19:04:44 UTC

i generally think though that we can fix all the problems we have in white countries by just having more kids though, and that should be made the priority

2017-03-09 19:05:15 UTC

Easier said than done, economics make that difficult.

2017-03-09 19:05:15 UTC

we have an opposite situation from china, whereas in china labor is literally worthless as anyone can do it, they need some people to teach them how whites do it in their countries

2017-03-09 19:05:22 UTC

but we need basically slave labor

2017-03-09 19:05:27 UTC

toilet cleaners etc

2017-03-09 19:05:51 UTC

well yeah, but I wish that our politicians would recognize that it would be better to have home grown labor rather than importing it

2017-03-09 19:06:05 UTC

i mean currently there isn't even a discussion about it

2017-03-09 19:06:11 UTC

its all the same to them

2017-03-09 19:06:24 UTC

Russia recognizes that and they offer stipends for new couples that procreate.

2017-03-09 19:06:32 UTC

We don't have that in the USA.

2017-03-09 19:06:35 UTC

that's a short term solution i think

2017-03-09 19:06:37 UTC

Which is fucking stupid.

2017-03-09 19:06:39 UTC

the long term is trad values

2017-03-09 19:06:45 UTC

But then we invited the multiculturalism in.

2017-03-09 19:06:47 UTC

because only for so long can the state give handouts

2017-03-09 19:07:06 UTC

i think russia has a positive birthrate now

2017-03-09 19:07:11 UTC

i read that somewhere

2017-03-09 19:07:31 UTC

which is fucken amazing considering they had a birthrate of like 1 just a few years ago

2017-03-09 19:07:40 UTC

they're obviously doing something right

2017-03-09 19:11:13 UTC

They want/try to keep a homogenous white slav peoples.

2017-03-09 19:11:48 UTC

They got mixed here and there but are doing much better on keeping their society away from degeneracy.

2017-03-09 19:12:22 UTC

yeah

2017-03-09 19:12:33 UTC

i love the fact that they outlawed fag propaganda

2017-03-09 19:12:58 UTC

the latest beauty and the beast movie features a gay person for like a few scenes and they made it rated 16

2017-03-09 19:13:06 UTC

they wanted to ban it at 1st

2017-03-09 19:13:22 UTC

considering it's a little kids movie 16+ year olds won't want to see it

2017-03-09 19:13:27 UTC

i say that's a success

2017-03-09 19:18:31 UTC

Lol ayy

2017-03-09 19:22:31 UTC

Oh noes I have been demoted lol

2017-03-09 19:22:34 UTC

Oh well

2017-03-09 19:23:01 UTC

Wasnt me

2017-03-09 19:24:28 UTC

@TheSlavPill

I was reading some of your comments, and their consistent.

The whole "deny citizenship thing" hmmm, I think it incentivizes high performing immigrants to earn money in the host country and ship it abroad.

2017-03-09 19:25:41 UTC

So it depends.

If you want their labour, but don't want them to have ownership of anything, it is better to you telecommunications to let them work remotely.

Or have some sort of contract visa.

With the security that @Mother was talking about

2017-03-09 19:27:03 UTC

i think china has it right

2017-03-09 19:27:12 UTC

you can go there and work and live out your days

2017-03-09 19:27:16 UTC

but you'll never become a citizen

2017-03-09 19:27:23 UTC

as only chinese people can be citizens of china

2017-03-09 19:27:33 UTC

Blue collar labor I understand in moderation. There are solutions for that too without being browned out of existence.

2017-03-09 19:28:13 UTC

I like China...specifically I LOVE Hong Kong model...and Singapore model...

Or Japan, where you MUST live there a long time and give up your other citizenship and fully integrate

2017-03-09 19:29:03 UTC

i like the chinese way better

2017-03-09 19:29:20 UTC

living somewhere a long time shouldn't entitle you to citizenship

2017-03-09 19:30:09 UTC

If you are productive and legally compliant I think it is something that someone can try to qualify for if they want.

Citizenship is marriage to a country in some sense

2017-03-09 19:30:24 UTC

If you never marry your girl, she will move on or do stuff on the side

2017-03-09 19:30:38 UTC

a non european will never love a european country like an actual european can

2017-03-09 19:30:40 UTC

Otherwise, you are doing a UAE kind of model

2017-03-09 19:30:51 UTC

also in chink land even marriage doesn't get you citizenship

2017-03-09 19:30:54 UTC

which is also good

2017-03-09 19:31:13 UTC

@TheSlavPill Ayaan Hirsi Ali loves the Netherlands more than the Current PM ever will

2017-03-09 19:31:25 UTC

she still has to go back though

2017-03-09 19:31:47 UTC

No marriage shouldn't get you citizenship

2017-03-09 19:32:02 UTC

You cant even get citizenship by marriage in Canada or the USA I don't think

2017-03-09 19:32:09 UTC

Just the equivalent of green card

2017-03-09 19:32:51 UTC

yeah but just a few years later you can apply for citizenship

2017-03-09 19:33:31 UTC

yeah, after getting vetted to the equivalent of getting a secret clearance for permanent residency in Canada

2017-03-09 19:33:39 UTC

Well, at least when I immigrated

2017-03-09 19:33:49 UTC

Don't know what its like under Trudeau

2017-03-09 19:34:23 UTC

Ayaan Hirsi Ali isn't Dutch. Can't ever become Dutch. So yes, she has to go back.

2017-03-09 19:34:37 UTC

i would maybe allow her to live out her days if she were useful

2017-03-09 19:34:39 UTC

like in china

2017-03-09 19:34:46 UTC

Sure, if she doesn't procreate

2017-03-09 19:34:50 UTC

maybe a living and working permit

2017-03-09 19:34:51 UTC

yeah ofc

2017-03-09 19:34:52 UTC

Hey wb @Slav no I was just saying that she loves the Netherlands more than cucks there do

2017-03-09 19:35:03 UTC

well she loves what she thinks are the netherlands

2017-03-09 19:35:03 UTC

like Rutte or whatever his name is

2017-03-09 19:35:10 UTC

Truth, that's because Western Europeans are the biggest cucks this side of Venus.

2017-03-09 19:35:10 UTC

a multicultural environment or something

2017-03-09 19:35:32 UTC

Spoken like a true Slav, @Slav lol

2017-03-09 19:36:00 UTC

that's why only 15% of dutch people would fight for the netherlands

2017-03-09 19:36:03 UTC

Honestly, if Western Europeans are ok with being displaced - that's ok with me. Same goes for white Americans and anyone else. Everyone should pick their path.

2017-03-09 19:36:13 UTC

because in the end what is it? a country that values dutch and random nonwhites the same

2017-03-09 19:36:43 UTC

@TheSlavPill yeah 15% is way too low, ridiculous...I like netherlands sense of commerce and freedom...wonderful

2017-03-09 19:36:55 UTC

And no will to fight.

2017-03-09 19:37:03 UTC

You'll find one follows the other.

2017-03-09 19:37:17 UTC

how many of those 15% lied too

2017-03-09 19:37:33 UTC

True. I mean at least a few % were old veterans or grandmas.

2017-03-09 19:37:35 UTC

no way would they give their lives for a project that doesn't value them more than others

2017-03-09 19:37:36 UTC

Or women.

2017-03-09 19:37:48 UTC

that's why ethno nationalism is a beautiful thing

2017-03-09 19:37:52 UTC

I don't understand how you can have so much wealth - financial and cultural - and don't want to protect them.

2017-03-09 19:38:02 UTC

That's the red pill man.

2017-03-09 19:38:04 UTC

its easy

2017-03-09 19:38:07 UTC

Wealth destroys strength.

2017-03-09 19:38:12 UTC

just get brainwashed since you're born

2017-03-09 19:38:20 UTC

but strength brings wealth

2017-03-09 19:38:21 UTC

The easier your life is, the less you're willing to fight for it.

2017-03-09 19:38:23 UTC

Yes

2017-03-09 19:38:25 UTC

it's a cycle

2017-03-09 19:38:26 UTC

@ShadowKhukuri If you're born into it, you don't realize it is precious

2017-03-09 19:38:41 UTC

@HeimatFreiheitTradition now that is a big fricking red pill

2017-03-09 19:38:44 UTC

Good times create weak men. Weak men create bad times. Bad times create strong men.

2017-03-09 19:39:14 UTC

it will be a huge achievement if we can make the good times work and manage to produce strong men from that

2017-03-09 19:39:17 UTC

@Slav That's a quotable man

2017-03-09 19:39:21 UTC

Lots of useless trust fund babies in NYC.

2017-03-09 19:39:22 UTC

it would require mandatory military service

2017-03-09 19:40:30 UTC

I would say public service, not mandatory military service.

Some people are Christian you know. Christ said "live by the sword die by the sword".

2017-03-09 19:41:12 UTC

we has mandatory military service in my country until very recently. 2012 i think, but you also had a choice

2017-03-09 19:41:23 UTC

either serve in the army guns and all or do civil duties

2017-03-09 19:41:38 UTC

like working in the city etc

2017-03-09 19:41:43 UTC

in like landscaping and shit

2017-03-09 19:41:46 UTC

yeah

2017-03-09 19:41:51 UTC

it sucked

2017-03-09 19:41:57 UTC

because it's unpaid labor

2017-03-09 19:41:59 UTC

Christ said a lot of stupid bullshit. While I respect Christianity, following it to the letter is suicidal.

2017-03-09 19:42:03 UTC

meaning you're taking someone's job away

2017-03-09 19:42:09 UTC

and you're getting nothing in return

2017-03-09 19:42:14 UTC

military should make you into a man

2017-03-09 19:42:26 UTC

there shouldn't be any conscientious objections

2017-03-09 19:42:32 UTC

like in hacksaw ridge

2017-03-09 19:42:35 UTC

fuck that

2017-03-09 19:42:41 UTC

shoot that fucker who won't pick up a gun

2017-03-09 19:42:57 UTC

that may be a little extreme but you get the gist of it

2017-03-09 19:44:06 UTC

Let's say I wasn't Christian, even then...if I were in your shoes, mandatory military service is only meaningful, in my opinion if:

A - if unmarried

1. 1 year of basic training + firearms
2. 2nd year, go do peacekeeping mission aboard for you countrys interest.

B - if married
1. same as above
2. Border security duty.

2017-03-09 19:44:24 UTC

Men and women

2017-03-09 19:44:59 UTC

women should only serve voluntarily

2017-03-09 19:45:02 UTC

thats how it was

2017-03-09 19:45:07 UTC

men were required

2017-03-09 19:45:10 UTC

and it was one year

2017-03-09 19:45:14 UTC

firearm training and all

2017-03-09 19:45:18 UTC

no actual serving

2017-03-09 19:45:22 UTC

Nah, its too dangerous now, at least make them do firearms training

2017-03-09 19:45:23 UTC

like abroad or at home

2017-03-09 19:45:57 UTC

it was at 18 so it's not like many people get married then

2017-03-09 19:46:24 UTC

If you get the training and you don't serve, how do you fully appreciate the great country that others protect and that foreigners envy?

2017-03-09 19:46:48 UTC

It's like learning to put a condom on but not ever bedding a women

2017-03-09 19:46:52 UTC

well in order to serve your country has to be involved in a conflict or a peacekeeping mission

2017-03-09 19:46:55 UTC

Sorry ladies (#notsorry)

2017-03-09 19:47:06 UTC

considering that my country has maybe 1k soldiers abroad max

2017-03-09 19:47:19 UTC

and that one generation is probably about 30k soldiers

2017-03-09 19:47:27 UTC

there isn't an opportunity

2017-03-09 19:47:52 UTC

When you have a situation like in Paris now...it would be nice if you have a well armed and trained populace

2017-03-09 19:47:52 UTC

but the best ones get offered careers in the military ofc

2017-03-09 19:47:59 UTC

well yeah

2017-03-09 19:47:59 UTC

And sweden rape is so high

2017-03-09 19:48:02 UTC

Not acceptable

2017-03-09 19:48:23 UTC

I don't want people learning to use guns but only shooting targets

2017-03-09 19:48:32 UTC

i mean i would rather we deport everything not european and then get the military service in

2017-03-09 19:49:02 UTC

go put yourself in a situation where you get the maturity to handle a gun, kill a bad guy or learn why its bad to kill someone wrongly

2017-03-09 19:49:08 UTC

while protecting your country

2017-03-09 19:49:28 UTC

well it's just military service, it's not a philosophy course

2017-03-09 19:49:35 UTC

that should be before you join up

2017-03-09 19:49:53 UTC

sufficient nationalistic rhetoric from birth

2017-03-09 19:49:57 UTC

Ethnonationalist philosophy is a corner stone as ethnonationalism

2017-03-09 19:50:55 UTC

yeah

2017-03-09 19:50:59 UTC

OK at your last comment

2017-03-09 19:51:03 UTC

thats a good point

2017-03-09 19:51:08 UTC

the virtues of ethnonationalism should be instilled ever since birth

2017-03-09 19:51:15 UTC

good point

2017-03-09 19:53:27 UTC

be back later or tomorrw

2017-03-09 19:53:36 UTC

Take care guys

2017-03-09 20:17:32 UTC

Later.

2017-03-10 21:00:48 UTC

@Mother you afk

2017-03-10 22:48:57 UTC

Hey @Jossi not anymore

2017-03-11 00:11:59 UTC

fuck

2017-03-11 00:53:54 UTC

so there is this game called "the dinner game" where you invite an idiot to dinner to fuck with him and then everyone has a good time. i'm thinking what if we invited a normie into discord and revealed our true power level for shits and giggles?

2017-03-11 01:25:21 UTC

@Aventeer yes

2017-03-11 20:21:41 UTC

paki government structure are infiltrated from bottom to top with talibans

2017-03-11 20:21:57 UTC

police army etc

2017-03-11 20:22:01 UTC

yep

2017-03-11 20:22:19 UTC

there's mess around me atm

2017-03-11 20:25:47 UTC

I still stick to my prediction that eveything will collapse by the end of 2017

2017-03-11 20:26:01 UTC

Theres water pouring in and the glass is full

2017-03-11 20:26:20 UTC

I mean the current influx of migrants, which is going around 24/7 will result in total emegence of anarchy

2017-03-11 20:26:30 UTC

There will be government sure, but it wont be in control of the streets

2017-03-11 20:26:46 UTC

As we speak, migrants are crossing into Europe, EN MASSE

2017-03-11 20:26:56 UTC

it's not as if they go in waves

2017-03-11 20:27:07 UTC

They are still coming in and Western Europe is full

2017-03-11 20:27:12 UTC

Isn't Turkey threatening to wave em on through as well?

2017-03-11 20:27:28 UTC

And when these migrants keep arriving, nobody will be able to provide them with resources because there wont be any

2017-03-11 20:27:42 UTC

So they will go crazy and go into rampage and sodomize the domicile population

2017-03-11 20:27:46 UTC

Which will result in massive chaos

2017-03-11 20:32:18 UTC

i hope that happens

2017-03-11 20:32:21 UTC

the sooner the better

2017-03-11 20:34:56 UTC

I used to live a few blocks away from the Bataclan in Paris, that one was a huge milestone. Spent all night calling my old friends there (all fine).

2017-03-11 20:35:21 UTC

Friend of mine had the same story in Brussels

2017-03-11 20:36:01 UTC

Yeah I heard. No mic, otherwise I'd be chatting with you guys

2017-03-11 20:39:45 UTC

Serbia here too

2017-03-11 20:39:52 UTC

yup

2017-03-11 20:40:15 UTC

bon in the US

2017-03-11 20:40:26 UTC

yea what Slav said

2017-03-11 20:40:54 UTC

What is it with the balkans and gabbers? seems half the population on gab is balk

2017-03-11 20:41:05 UTC

I was the only one born outside of serbia

2017-03-11 20:41:19 UTC

One of my friends came back from Tampa, said it was the worst place he's ever been to where you can't survive without air conditioning 24/7

2017-03-11 20:41:35 UTC

Florida

2017-03-11 20:42:05 UTC

I can't stand humidity in heat, I'd probably spend my time in some basement

2017-03-11 20:42:33 UTC

Good afternoon

2017-03-11 20:42:48 UTC

hey, evening here, but hey nonetheless

2017-03-11 20:42:55 UTC

hello

2017-03-11 20:42:59 UTC

Ravi, Kekk - feel free to join the voice channel if you want to talk

2017-03-11 20:43:42 UTC

Perhaps when I have a stronger signal. Thank you

2017-03-11 20:44:20 UTC

Don't do voice. Just came here to check it out after your gab ad. But if it's mostly voice, it ain't my scene.

2017-03-11 20:45:05 UTC

np, some are typing as well

2017-03-11 20:45:16 UTC

but it would be enough just to listen

2017-03-11 20:46:07 UTC

1 was a 'Kosovar'

2017-03-11 20:46:34 UTC

yeah they always report if it was someone from the balkans they still insist balkan peopleare the greatest evil on planet even while double fisted by immigrants who have just eaten chilli with their hands

2017-03-11 20:47:11 UTC

We're total sweethearts

2017-03-11 20:47:21 UTC

I can hear that. Heh

2017-03-11 20:47:48 UTC

Balkan people suck abroad, but they are otherwise invisible

2017-03-11 20:49:50 UTC

Bad balkan rep = because the gipsies, begging and hustling EVERYWHERE in the civilized world

2017-03-11 20:50:35 UTC

balkan people dont gipsy beg

2017-03-11 20:50:55 UTC

they hustle, listen to awful music and have eccentric sense for decorating their homes

2017-03-11 20:51:08 UTC

but no balkan person abroad is poor, ever

2017-03-11 20:51:09 UTC

the balkans exported like a billon gipsies to everywhere else

2017-03-11 20:51:19 UTC

no we didnt, they went themselves

2017-03-11 20:51:31 UTC

and you were heartbroken, no doubt

2017-03-11 20:51:37 UTC

europe: "YOU HAVE TO GIVER MORE EQUALITY TO GYPSIES AND UNDERSTADN THEY ARE THE SAME"

2017-03-11 20:51:45 UTC

balkans" OK HERE, HAVE THEM"

2017-03-11 20:51:53 UTC

europe" WTF THESE GYPSIES !!!!"

2017-03-11 20:52:16 UTC

europe is hammering us 24/7 to build apartments for gypsies and send themto schools where they simply wont go

2017-03-11 20:52:28 UTC

here at least they lived in ghetto slums and were talked to via sticks

2017-03-11 20:52:29 UTC

yeah, we have that gypsy field in Vojvodina

2017-03-11 20:52:41 UTC

look, I am not saying gyppers are the shit. I'm just saying the balkan image took an almighty gypper dip

2017-03-11 20:53:09 UTC

Dude, when i walk streets of Paris, i feel im in Teheran

2017-03-11 20:53:16 UTC

believe me, gypsies are your least problem

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