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hi spark!
yeah i guess lol
tell me about yourself! I don't know you!
all I've heard is that you're rather centrist
Iβm a moderate Federalist who has a tendency to be Populist
spark is great
yeah
@YoungTexan Thanks you too
@Deleted User Anything else you want to know??
he is a former lincolnite who seeks refuge in the south
as i have done
because lincoln cray
Itβs a wonderful place to be indeed
Lincoln was too left for me anyways but I tried my best to make reforms
well, Lincoln's about to die for us soon
what's your political philosophy?
Now we can count on @Deleted User to get it done
I'd consider myself closest to Coolidge personally
Trumpist lol
Except for his immigration policy
And environment,
oh wow. cool. I'm a Cruzer
Pretty socially conservative
i dislike trump because he is like
YT is george dubya lol
not conservative
and yes 43 was great
Eh
nothing wrong with Dubya. I liked the man myself
45 is better but 43βs immigration policy was better
but I'm closer to Coolidge
he was ya know, not a freaking protectionist lol
Thatβs true
exactly lol
I'm one of those free traders, classical liberals on econ and immigration
Protectionism has grown on me
well
I like Trump's immigration policy
it doesnt work
but not the protectionism
protectionism fails lol
constantly
It does
wasnt the GOP the more protectionist party until like the 1960s
and has throughout history
small government, let the people make their own decisions
yeah GOP was protectionist until Ike
Well temporarily it has to work
nah
@Deleted User come join us in the GOP, the water is warm
YoungTexan
no it doesnt temporarily work lol
didn't you leave
the GOP?
im back again
I wish I was a Republican again
do you still hate Trump?
i dont hate trump
but i dont like him
gotcha
for some reason I thought you were
he has made our country weak as hell in terms of our standing around the world
GWBFan-type
i.e. super anti-Trump
i mean Trump is a criminal
Well they roll out the red carpet for him in China
well, I'm a Cruzer so lol
I like Cruz too
Cruz was okay
rolling a red carpet doesnt do anything
LOL
I have to say I'm happy with his SCOTUS noms
cruz was great
would you take Trump or Obama YoungTexan?
can i shoot myself instead?
@Deleted User Fair enough
I think we'd all like Cruz better lmao
Abolish the IRS! -Ted Cruz
i honestly couldnt answer that rfayette lol
I'd take Trump
Makes my life so much easier
I'd take Trump ofc
both have been shit presidents
just for the SCOTUS noms and the 5 to 4 in Juno
I think Trump's done a pretty good job imo
but maybe narrowly trump because of scotus
that to me is worth the rest of it
@Deleted User If you want to learn more PM me
but let's be real
i like trump when he bombs syria
this isn't a subject we can really change people's minds
on
@Deleted User Yes
so will the court overturn roe
I hope not
nope
I hope so
with trump's justices
I want that
Abortion is wrong
but needed
I was very pro-life
until
cause
I realized I probably wasn't elect
ya know
since I'm going to hell I no longer care so much about
morality
it is needed sometimes
&
^
you cant just say no abortions lol, it isnt feasible
true
I mean life cant be given a value
I also find ExtremeRepublican-type rhetoric
disturbing
if you honestly believe abortion is murder
that means half of Americans
are complicit
and ExtremeRepublican said as much
saying that people should be prosecuted
who support pro-choice parties
it's also just disgusting
Well they shouldnβt force restrictions upon people and arrest them, it should just be heavily discouraged
do you want women going into back alleys to get coat hangar abortions
well, they dont think it's murder, and thus feel no guilt about it
because
that is the only alternative
Morality is important in governance
I'm of two minds on that. repealing it is no different than with Dred Scott
well, I dont give a damn about muh coat hangers
out of curiosity LouisvilleThunder
as a pro-life Democrat
but if it gets repealed there will be a civil war
did you think that other Dems were deeply immoral
because of their stance?
yeah
idk being a pro-life Dem seems a lot harder
than being a pro-choice Republican
but I dont think there would be a civil war on it
As a Calvinist my thought is basically
eh, Im pretty much a santandercrat
most of us are going to hell
so I guess we're all evil
but I like being evil
so I don't care that abortion is immoral
granted it's not like I think God's moral standards are even legitimate
since God predestined us all to hell anyways
but I guess I acknowledge him as the sovereign
I mean I still dont think that life should be denied to fetuses even if we're destined to hell
cuz life is still invaluable
Is it really better
because since most people are going to hell
it just means more sin
that they're going to be tortured for
since the vast majority of those babies are reprobate
eh, well maybe they wont go to hell
I guess it's my pessimism
I'm a really natural pessimist
but as long as we dont know for sure, life should be lived
and taken for what life itself is intrinsically worth
I guess so
America as a republic is founded on God given rights
All life is sacred so we must give ourselves a chance
abortion is an affront to those principles
yeah, you have a right to life
America is also inherently a Christian nation but that doesnβt mean we shun those who arenβt
except America isn't
an inherently Christian country
the Puritans were
but the Founders were mostly deists
and they created the first secular republic
but even for non-christians, natural rights still apply
John Adams had a lot to say about that
he stated that the Constitution was appropriate for a Christian peoples only
no he didn't
he said a "moral and religious people"
I can quote him
the point being that the concept of natural rights come from God not the state
^
i became pro-choice not too long ago tbh
i used to be very much pro life
honestly being pro-life must be just depressing
so much so i protested planned parenthood lol
I will say this
pro-lifers put trump into office
did you change your views cuz of that time you got scared that you impregnated a girl, YTπ
so I'll give them that
but when i started dating and i realized "oh hey, i could have a kid soon"
yes LT essentially that
^
why would you think that RFayette?
because that means
you believe millions of people are murdered
50 million since 1973
also abstinence doesnt work lol
true
well abstinence education
and places where abortion is illegal
often have high rates of illegal abortion
or Ireland
just fly to UK lmao
yes, we do believe that
being consistently pro-life means pregnant women have no right to privacy
General abstinence education is effective
LOLNO
but whether you're prolife or pro choice, that's a statement of fact
even among Puritans
1/3 of marriages
were after pregnancy
there are 50 million people that aren't in America today because of abortion
being pro-life in today's time essentially makes you pro birth
I mean condoms and stuff should be easily accessible, cuz that's the pragmatic thing to reduce abortions and unwanted pregnancies
there are 200 million people that aren't in America today
because of
I mean condoms and stuff should be easily accessible, cuz that's the pragmatic thing to reduce abortions and unwanted pregnancies
The sanctity of life has to be protected
people choosing not to have sex
(actually way more than that)
what about the rights of women?
what about them
yeah we should definitely have condoms being accessible
do you believe the right to privacy?
and birth control too
I do but that doesnβt mean abortions shouldnβt be regulated
You can't be both pro-life and believe in gender equality as far as rights go
because it means
as defined by what, Griswald?
that women are basically property
if I read the constitution as it was written does it contain a 'right to privacy'?
@Deleted User oof that is some mad truth right there
i dont see abortion as a womens rights issue
how lol
You'd have to monitor where women travel
what they do
Abortion is a human rights issue
it's a life isse
what they eat/digest
for 9 months
it is a womens rights issue lmao
and in reality
travel, freedom of movement
you'd have to know whether or not all women are pregnant
is in the constitution
if you believe abortion is murder
then women of childbearing age
Thatβs excessive and ridiculous @Deleted User
need to be investigated/scrutinized
as thoroughly as a crime scene
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