#regional-legislatures (Discord ID: 454416723526025231) in #FedsShallRiseAgain!, page 2


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2018-07-21 19:18:44 UTC

hi spark!

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yeah i guess lol

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tell me about yourself! I don't know you!

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all I've heard is that you're rather centrist

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I’m a moderate Federalist who has a tendency to be Populist

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spark is great

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yeah

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@YoungTexan Thanks you too

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@Deleted User Anything else you want to know??

2018-07-21 19:20:09 UTC

he is a former lincolnite who seeks refuge in the south

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as i have done

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because lincoln cray

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It’s a wonderful place to be indeed

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Lincoln was too left for me anyways but I tried my best to make reforms

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well, Lincoln's about to die for us soon

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what's your political philosophy?

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Now we can count on @Deleted User to get it done

2018-07-21 19:20:59 UTC

I'd consider myself closest to Coolidge personally

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Trumpist lol

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Except for his immigration policy

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And environment,

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oh wow. cool. I'm a Cruzer

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Pretty socially conservative

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i dislike trump because he is like

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YT is george dubya lol

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not conservative

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and yes 43 was great

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Eh

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nothing wrong with Dubya. I liked the man myself

2018-07-21 19:22:45 UTC

45 is better but 43’s immigration policy was better

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but I'm closer to Coolidge

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he was ya know, not a freaking protectionist lol

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That’s true

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exactly lol

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I'm one of those free traders, classical liberals on econ and immigration

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Protectionism has grown on me

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well

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I like Trump's immigration policy

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it doesnt work

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but not the protectionism

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protectionism fails lol

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constantly

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It does

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wasnt the GOP the more protectionist party until like the 1960s

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and has throughout history

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small government, let the people make their own decisions

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yeah GOP was protectionist until Ike

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Well temporarily it has to work

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nah

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@Deleted User come join us in the GOP, the water is warm

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YoungTexan

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no it doesnt temporarily work lol

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didn't you leave

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the GOP?

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im back again

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I wish I was a Republican again

2018-07-21 19:24:24 UTC

do you still hate Trump?

2018-07-21 19:24:30 UTC

i dont hate trump

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but i dont like him

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gotcha

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for some reason I thought you were

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he has made our country weak as hell in terms of our standing around the world

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GWBFan-type

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i.e. super anti-Trump

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i mean Trump is a criminal

2018-07-21 19:25:13 UTC

Well they roll out the red carpet for him in China

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well, I'm a Cruzer so lol

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I like Cruz too

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Cruz was okay

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rolling a red carpet doesnt do anything

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LOL

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I have to say I'm happy with his SCOTUS noms

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cruz was great

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would you take Trump or Obama YoungTexan?

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can i shoot myself instead?

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@Deleted User Fair enough

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I think we'd all like Cruz better lmao

2018-07-21 19:26:05 UTC

Abolish the IRS! -Ted Cruz

2018-07-21 19:26:10 UTC

i honestly couldnt answer that rfayette lol

2018-07-21 19:26:13 UTC

I'd take Trump

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Makes my life so much easier

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I'd take Trump ofc

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both have been shit presidents

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just for the SCOTUS noms and the 5 to 4 in Juno

2018-07-21 19:26:32 UTC

I think Trump's done a pretty good job imo

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but maybe narrowly trump because of scotus

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that to me is worth the rest of it

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@Deleted User If you want to learn more PM me

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but let's be real

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i like trump when he bombs syria

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this isn't a subject we can really change people's minds

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on

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so will the court overturn roe

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I hope not

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nope

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I hope so

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with trump's justices

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I want that

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Abortion is wrong

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but needed

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I was very pro-life

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until

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cause

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I realized I probably wasn't elect

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ya know

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since I'm going to hell I no longer care so much about

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morality

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it is needed sometimes

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&

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^

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you cant just say no abortions lol, it isnt feasible

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true

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I mean life cant be given a value

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I also find ExtremeRepublican-type rhetoric

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disturbing

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if you honestly believe abortion is murder

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that means half of Americans

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are complicit

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and ExtremeRepublican said as much

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saying that people should be prosecuted

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who support pro-choice parties

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it's also just disgusting

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Well they shouldn’t force restrictions upon people and arrest them, it should just be heavily discouraged

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do you want women going into back alleys to get coat hangar abortions

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well, they dont think it's murder, and thus feel no guilt about it

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because

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that is the only alternative

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Morality is important in governance

2018-07-21 19:29:00 UTC

I'm of two minds on that. repealing it is no different than with Dred Scott

2018-07-21 19:29:07 UTC

well, I dont give a damn about muh coat hangers

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out of curiosity LouisvilleThunder

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as a pro-life Democrat

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but if it gets repealed there will be a civil war

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did you think that other Dems were deeply immoral

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because of their stance?

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yeah

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idk being a pro-life Dem seems a lot harder

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than being a pro-choice Republican

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but I dont think there would be a civil war on it

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As a Calvinist my thought is basically

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eh, Im pretty much a santandercrat

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most of us are going to hell

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so I guess we're all evil

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but I like being evil

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so I don't care that abortion is immoral

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granted it's not like I think God's moral standards are even legitimate

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since God predestined us all to hell anyways

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but I guess I acknowledge him as the sovereign

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I mean I still dont think that life should be denied to fetuses even if we're destined to hell

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cuz life is still invaluable

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Is it really better

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because since most people are going to hell

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it just means more sin

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that they're going to be tortured for

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since the vast majority of those babies are reprobate

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eh, well maybe they wont go to hell

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I guess it's my pessimism

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I'm a really natural pessimist

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but as long as we dont know for sure, life should be lived

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and taken for what life itself is intrinsically worth

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I guess so

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America as a republic is founded on God given rights

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All life is sacred so we must give ourselves a chance

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abortion is an affront to those principles

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yeah, you have a right to life

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America is also inherently a Christian nation but that doesn’t mean we shun those who aren’t

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except America isn't

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an inherently Christian country

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the Puritans were

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but the Founders were mostly deists

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and they created the first secular republic

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but even for non-christians, natural rights still apply

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John Adams had a lot to say about that

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he stated that the Constitution was appropriate for a Christian peoples only

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no he didn't

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he said a "moral and religious people"

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I can quote him

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the point being that the concept of natural rights come from God not the state

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^

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i became pro-choice not too long ago tbh

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i used to be very much pro life

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honestly being pro-life must be just depressing

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so much so i protested planned parenthood lol

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I will say this

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pro-lifers put trump into office

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did you change your views cuz of that time you got scared that you impregnated a girl, YT😉

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so I'll give them that

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but when i started dating and i realized "oh hey, i could have a kid soon"

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yes LT essentially that

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^

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why would you think that RFayette?

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because that means

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you believe millions of people are murdered

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50 million since 1973

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also abstinence doesnt work lol

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true

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well abstinence education

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and places where abortion is illegal

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often have high rates of illegal abortion

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or Ireland

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just fly to UK lmao

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yes, we do believe that

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being consistently pro-life means pregnant women have no right to privacy

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General abstinence education is effective

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LOLNO

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but whether you're prolife or pro choice, that's a statement of fact

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even among Puritans

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1/3 of marriages

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were after pregnancy

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there are 50 million people that aren't in America today because of abortion

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being pro-life in today's time essentially makes you pro birth

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I mean condoms and stuff should be easily accessible, cuz that's the pragmatic thing to reduce abortions and unwanted pregnancies

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there are 200 million people that aren't in America today

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because of

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I mean condoms and stuff should be easily accessible, cuz that's the pragmatic thing to reduce abortions and unwanted pregnancies

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The sanctity of life has to be protected

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people choosing not to have sex

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(actually way more than that)

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what about the rights of women?

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what about them

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yeah we should definitely have condoms being accessible

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do you believe the right to privacy?

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and birth control too

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I do but that doesn’t mean abortions shouldn’t be regulated

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You can't be both pro-life and believe in gender equality as far as rights go

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because it means

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as defined by what, Griswald?

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that women are basically property

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if I read the constitution as it was written does it contain a 'right to privacy'?

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@Deleted User oof that is some mad truth right there

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i dont see abortion as a womens rights issue

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how lol

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You'd have to monitor where women travel

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what they do

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Abortion is a human rights issue

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it's a life isse

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what they eat/digest

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for 9 months

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it is a womens rights issue lmao

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and in reality

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travel, freedom of movement

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you'd have to know whether or not all women are pregnant

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is in the constitution

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if you believe abortion is murder

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then women of childbearing age

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That’s excessive and ridiculous @Deleted User

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need to be investigated/scrutinized

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as thoroughly as a crime scene

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