#fed-discussion (Discord ID: 418943536516300802) in #FedsShallRiseAgain!, page 1

should i form a regional political party in the south?

sure you can

i just dont know what id do

and whether its necessary lol

what kind of stuff would it revolve around?

i have no idea lol

i was just thinking kinda randomly

are regional parties even that important?

I mean they can kind of be if they're organized?

ah ok

yeet

Hey Tmth

hi

tmth <3

Welcome!

Mr. R!

yankee!

fhtagn

Running on two hours sleep right now

I'm running on 3 if it makes you feel any better

everything alright?

yea

I guess

I am off today

first time I have been off on a Friday beginning a Congress

in over a year

that answers the question I was about to ask lol

at least you'll have time to nap if you want

I might do that after twelve

i wont be home till around 3, but will probably nap after since I don't work till 1 tomorrow.

3 hours of sleep + 8 hour shift + operating the forklift a bunch + 2 hours total driving both ways is a bad combo

I had to clopen. so off at 10pm last night back at 6am this morning.

Just declared for Speaker

yay!

While I appreciate any attempts to help sway voters, remember The Saints words last night. High Ethical standards must be followed when doing so

I wasn't planning on swaying folks, from what I understand I know transit won't run for speaker if you do

however i think he'd be a great choice for deputy if you need ideas.

He is my top choice for Deputy Speaker

good

I am going to try once again to track activity in a public thread

this time it won't be in my office, where no one reads it

it will be its own thread

oooo blood feast time!

because I was curious.

We should hold a big celebration on the day that you break Ebowed's record for longest serving President @Deleted User

🎆

Thunder Over Nyman!

The Chthulu Jubilee!

YESSS

Just putting this out there, Queen Victoria liked dogs

😛

I needed that nap

So has anyone noticed the Amendment to the Return Education to the Regions bill

Where House members failed to read title and first line and fall over themselves to try and find ever more requirements to add to the curriculum mandate

Welcome Back Centralist Consensus, Previously residing in Nyman 2004-2016

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=286002.0

Between this and gutting the paygo rule we just passed

We seem to be retrograding back, to the previous paradigm

I don't even know what is suggestions and what is actively proposed amendments anymore

or even which amendments are being discussed

What do you mean

Well keep in mind we used to keep track of far more amendments

it is just that people have gotten extremely lazy

Basicalyl the way we kept it organized back then

was if it was actually pending, it would say amendmetn offerred

so many different "amendments" have been proposed that I don't know which version is being discussed at this time

What are you referring to specially, the bill I linked above?

yes

The whole bill is an amendment to the bill you signed

To that bill, there have since been several amendments

pushing to expand the number of required subjects

I'm aware the bill itself is an amendment

but there have been amendments to the amendment

and I don't know which version is being discussed at this time

Basically, Wxtransit, is reposting his amendment to satisfy each new request or point

though I can agree with all that's being added this might as well be a bill to end the bill that was just passed

I would say revised but I am going to treat the final offered text as a new amendment

different from the first one he offered

Exactly

Because once you load up the requirements, section 3 has to go

since you need the staff back to administer it

I also don't see why computer science is kept separate from "career course"

And knowing this Congress they will likely keep the grants, add back the staff and say who cares when it comes to deficit 😛

lol

remember Yankee: there's nothing wrong with debt

Lmao

You know the irony here is

our debt was much lower pre-reset

Because taxes were far figher, much earlier

It was about 12 Trillion

But taxes were ridiclous

60% top rate

and that was a moderate position

JCL was called extreme for pushing for 45%

like too low extreme?

yes

Of coruse TNF was pushing for 90%

lol

And it was set at 50% for a while

but sbane and I grudingly conceded to 60% because we care about debt

lol

I think only Maxwell voted no on that 60% rate

ironic now

lol

and now the top rate is 39.6%

same as RL yes

well RL 2016

i think the tax reform bill AZ sent me a while back proposed changing it to 50%

but I don't know whatever happened to that

here's the current budget Truman wrote

FEDERAL BUDGET: FY2018

Revenues:

Income Taxes: $ 1561.83 Billion
by tax bracket
0-13K 10%
13K-50k 15%
50K-130K 25%
130K-210K 28%
210K-413K 33%
413K-441K 35%
441K+ 39.6%

Corporate Taxes: $ 340.00 Billion
0-100K 0%
100K-1M 15%
1M-10M 21.5%
10M+ 28%

I wish he had given break downs for each line of text

each bracket I mean

I've been thinking about whether it's possible to add a new top rate of 49% for 1M+ and cut some lower rates

or something like that

Its possible

We also need to find some ways to raise more revenue for healthcare

I have some questions about that estimate

for instance

Mediciad has to funding sources

Federal and state

Is the state portions being included or not in their estimates

The other rather thing we could address budget wise is Social Security, though not immediately a big driver of the deficit

the state contributions are not included

for medicaid

That explains the shortfall then

or at least most of it

States account for 37% of Medicaid spending on average

Atlasian Healthcare ($1261.14 Billion)
$423.77 Billion... Senior Healthcare
$44.31 Billion.... Veteran Healthcare
$12.90 Billion.... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits
$388.98 Billion... Healthcare Subsidy (Medicaid (Federal Portion)+CHIP)
$36.44 Billion ... Healthcare Subsidy (Medicaid Underutilized Expansion Est. Fed Costs)
$338.85 Billion... Healthcare Subsidy (Sliding Scale for rest of population)
$15.89 Billion.... Healthcare Subsidy Office (HSO) and AtlasCare Office (ACO) Administration

here's the healthcare spending breakdown

So then it is not the shortfall

I was talking about the revenue side

You see we are already beneath RL

Medicare and Medicaid alone are

1.2 Trillion in RL

here's other revenue

Healthcare Taxes:
Healthcare Payroll Tax - $ 856.1 Billion
5% (2.5% on employees, 2.5% on employers)

ACA Originated Taxes:
40% Cadillac Tax - $ 0.00 Billion
0.9% Payroll Tax - $ 263.35 Billion
3.8% on Net Investment Income - $ 12.80 Billion

Excise Taxes:
Carbon Tax - $ 16.35 Billion
Gasoline Tax - $ 50.00 Billion
Tobacco and Alcohol Taxes - $ 24.20 Billion
Excise taxes on health insurance providers,
pharmaceuticals, and medical devices - $ 9.90 Billion

Customs Duties: $ 36.30 Billion

Other Revenue: $ 105.00 Billion

and see, it doesn't mention state contributions to Medicaid

Sp healthcare is under by about $200 billion

hmm

WE are going to need to do a bill to on the Medicaid situation

ok

Here is the problem

the budget is acting as if both the Spending and revenue still occurs at the state level

as if nothing had changed

But Medicaid doesnt' exist

anymore

So what is that money going to

so how exactly did atlascare affect that

Abolished Medicaid

and incorporated it into the subsidy

So the entire cost of Mediciad is borne through the subsidy at the federal level

and the federal expense list should include both portions

Our deficit is thus worse than what the GM department says

💀

We need to find a way to transfer that state revenue to the federal level to cover the state portion presently not included

that 39%

is about $234 billion

which is the same amount that the deficit is undervalued by

1,134 Trillion

or somewhere around there

yep

The good news is this is funded

the money is just sitting in the wrong place

1.138 T

We have to find a way to get that money kicked up to the federal level

Either with regional agreements,

or with them cutting the taxes that pay for it and us enacting them federally

That gets us back to $900 billion

Then we come up with the rest of the shortfall presently in healthcare

I think we can get the regional governments to cough up some money

which appears to be about $200 billion

so $700 billion deficit

We can forward this information to RFayette to work with regional leaders to get this done (since he hasn't had much to do as SoIA lately)

yes

We also need to get the mistake fixed in the BPC

and I know that Truman has yet to do the budget estimates for Lincoln

as it still has no unified budget yet

Actually after the mediaid portion is fixed, we need $131 billion exactly

and healthcare will be fully funded

leaving $769 billion in deficit from other programs

Basically same as RL

minus the tax cut bill in December

Military Spending ($542.19 Billion)
$123.58 Billion... Military personnel
$217.91 Billion... Operation and maintenance
$106.01 Billion... Procurement
$61.52 Billion ... Research, development, test and evaluation
$8.47 Billion..... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other
$16.58 Billion.... Atomic Energy Defense Activities
$8.11 Billion..... Defense Related activities
$0.00 Billion..... Fiscal Responsibility in our Military Act-------- I've been wondering how we can cut some of the Operation and Maintainance and Procurement costs by making them more efficient

Keep in mind Lumine is going to fight us on defense spending cuts in the Senate

he is now litterally

John McCain

lol

I know @Reactionary and I were gonna look at more ways to free up some military spending

but we both have been busy lately

Bombs Away Lumine!

and he's BALD!

and I want to find a way to make social security more efficient and free up some money from there

Social Security ($903.24 Billion)
$868.63 Billion... Social Security Outlays
$34.60 Billion.... Social Security Administration

I was just reading some information about that as well

but we can't sacrifice quality of services

cuz it will destroy us in the elections

obviously

Regardless PUP will compare us to Paul Ryan

EVIL FEDERALISTS

👿

WHO WANNA KILL GRANNY!

and we can cut some foreign aid too

International affairs ($31.94 Billion)
$18.88 Billion ... International development and humanitarian assistance
$8.55 Billion..... International military aid
$11.99 Billion.... Conduct of foreign affairs
$1.30 Billion..... Foreign information and exchange activities
$-8.79 Billion.... International Financial Programs

but that wont affect much

It puts a smile on my face realizing just how much Federalists are like Walter Jones.

YES!

It is not Paul Ryan fiscal conservatism, it is more blue dog fiscal conservatism combined with Walter Jones' foreign policy

yep

I'm just imagining an old man proudly smiling at his grandchildren

I call it common sense

policy

We rely on the opposition to make this fun though

and that was the problem in 2017

Late Labor was just too passive

i remember my early days in the house where there were tons of 9-0 votes

it was like that when i was in the house too 😛

not that my days were much older than yours

Considring you kind of succeeded each other

😛

Also RIP seat number 9

Fed March 2017- Mar 2018

and now weathermemeboy will take my seat😛

Well technically not always Fed since Dereich was Indy

i think Never Again held the seat before that

Yes

Its the Never seat

and he was Speaker before you lol

lol

on paper

don't remind him

Funny thing is they once attacked us for "accumlating titles etc"

yet when it comes to Speakership

that was basically Never

I even named the old Fedcord "NSDAP" for the lulz😈

considering our recent defectors

oh shit i just noticed

hahahaa

and sociopaths driving this shit

Reminds of Duke's line criticizing the the old DA as a "Party of Disconnted Malcontents", right as I was trying to get them to like us, this was leaked

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

lol

lol

by Hamilton using NiK's account

one of the people he would have been referring to is Tmth