#a-more-welcoming-atlasia (Discord ID: 430964259938238465) in #FedsShallRiseAgain!, page 7


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2018-10-03 01:42:47 UTC

@Deleted User is there any proof on the attempted rape

2018-10-03 01:42:48 UTC

No

2018-10-03 01:42:50 UTC

There isn’t

2018-10-03 01:42:54 UTC

well

2018-10-03 01:43:01 UTC

alright

2018-10-03 01:43:08 UTC

lets say you dont believe blasey ford

2018-10-03 01:43:19 UTC

he commited perjury

2018-10-03 01:43:28 UTC

Did he though?

2018-10-03 01:43:31 UTC

yep

2018-10-03 01:43:37 UTC

i mean

2018-10-03 01:43:41 UTC

'thats just a fact

2018-10-03 01:43:48 UTC

Where’s the proof

2018-10-03 01:43:54 UTC

yeah lmao

2018-10-03 01:43:59 UTC

you sound like a libtard

2018-10-03 01:44:16 UTC

Pmasta is a liberal @Deleted User

2018-10-03 01:44:20 UTC

yeah

2018-10-03 01:44:21 UTC

i mean

2018-10-03 01:44:28 UTC

lets not do namecalling here tho

2018-10-03 01:44:34 UTC

ok nvm I thought you were a NeverTrumper

2018-10-03 01:44:39 UTC

sorry I get triggered by NeverTrumpers

2018-10-03 01:44:48 UTC

im just trying to talk and chill

2018-10-03 01:44:48 UTC

(shapiro is cool though)

2018-10-03 01:44:51 UTC

I mean you’re the one who called him an attempted rapist

2018-10-03 01:44:51 UTC

So

2018-10-03 01:44:55 UTC

yeah

2018-10-03 01:45:05 UTC

Name calling point is kind of hypocritical

2018-10-03 01:45:29 UTC

yeah also I say libtard in jest

2018-10-03 01:45:38 UTC

i mean

2018-10-03 01:45:52 UTC

You can’t just go to name calling

2018-10-03 01:45:57 UTC

And then when it suits you

2018-10-03 01:45:58 UTC

umm

2018-10-03 01:46:03 UTC

Go against it

2018-10-03 01:46:05 UTC

attempted rapist

2018-10-03 01:46:08 UTC

Like in an instant

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is something i believe

2018-10-03 01:46:14 UTC

He’s not an attempted rapist

2018-10-03 01:46:17 UTC

is true about him

2018-10-03 01:46:18 UTC

There’s no proof

2018-10-03 01:46:20 UTC

Saying tha

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That

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exactly

2018-10-03 01:46:27 UTC

its a he said she said

2018-10-03 01:46:31 UTC

no proof on his side

2018-10-03 01:46:35 UTC

that's why calling him an attempted rapist is really shitty thing to do

2018-10-03 01:46:37 UTC

And none on hers

2018-10-03 01:46:39 UTC

🤷‍♂️

2018-10-03 01:46:40 UTC

we don't have fucking videotape

2018-10-03 01:46:54 UTC

innocent until proven guilty

2018-10-03 01:46:58 UTC

isn't just for trials lmao

2018-10-03 01:47:04 UTC

it's an important principle

2018-10-03 01:47:07 UTC

called benefit of the doubt

2018-10-03 01:47:24 UTC

umm

2018-10-03 01:47:30 UTC

this isnt a case of that

2018-10-03 01:47:39 UTC

this is a job interview

2018-10-03 01:47:45 UTC

not a criminal case

2018-10-03 01:47:55 UTC

well he is clearly qualified

2018-10-03 01:48:00 UTC

also let's be real

2018-10-03 01:48:03 UTC

it's highly political

2018-10-03 01:48:04 UTC

republicans won

2018-10-03 01:48:06 UTC

we get the spoils

2018-10-03 01:48:10 UTC

i.e. the Supreme Court seats

2018-10-03 01:48:14 UTC

Dems are just doing this to delay

2018-10-03 01:48:20 UTC

until after the election

2018-10-03 01:48:21 UTC

cmon

2018-10-03 01:48:24 UTC

lol

2018-10-03 01:48:29 UTC

this is inherently a partisan fight

2018-10-03 01:48:30 UTC

we won

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we get to ram him throuhg

2018-10-03 01:48:36 UTC

regardless of whether you believe blasey ford

2018-10-03 01:48:37 UTC

through

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at least i think her believing it was him was sincere

2018-10-03 01:48:49 UTC

So PM

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and she didnt wanna come out

2018-10-03 01:48:55 UTC

If you were accused of something

2018-10-03 01:48:57 UTC

You didn’t do

2018-10-03 01:49:03 UTC

And it came up in a job interview

2018-10-03 01:49:20 UTC

How would you feel if your potential employer only believed your accuser

2018-10-03 01:49:23 UTC

?

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well

2018-10-03 01:49:30 UTC

id defend myself

2018-10-03 01:49:36 UTC

but it isnt a case

2018-10-03 01:49:48 UTC

lmao it'd just be he-said-she-said

2018-10-03 01:49:51 UTC

and it is ultimately their choice

2018-10-03 01:49:55 UTC

so give the guy the benefit of the doubt

2018-10-03 01:49:57 UTC

Just like he said @Deleted User

2018-10-03 01:50:05 UTC

Anyways look bottom line

2018-10-03 01:50:10 UTC

umm

2018-10-03 01:50:12 UTC

Kav will be tremendous

2018-10-03 01:50:17 UTC

for a supreme court seat

2018-10-03 01:50:18 UTC

^

2018-10-03 01:50:18 UTC

lol

2018-10-03 01:50:31 UTC

just choose hardeman instead

2018-10-03 01:50:38 UTC

Hardimann is too liberal

2018-10-03 01:50:48 UTC

he keeps everyone happy

2018-10-03 01:50:48 UTC

Kav is the most conservative

2018-10-03 01:51:03 UTC

I thought Barrett was the radical option

2018-10-03 01:51:08 UTC

barrett was the most conservative

2018-10-03 01:51:11 UTC

only on social issues

2018-10-03 01:51:16 UTC

on economic/executive power stuff

2018-10-03 01:51:18 UTC

Kav is far better

2018-10-03 01:51:53 UTC

lol

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what happned

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to

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96-3 approvals

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of sc nominees

2018-10-03 01:52:36 UTC

Roe V Wade happened

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no?

2018-10-03 01:52:55 UTC

Which made the court a partisan institution

2018-10-03 01:53:01 UTC

ginsburg was confirmed 96-3

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scalia 97-2

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kennedy some other crazy margin

2018-10-03 01:53:27 UTC

But Bork was rejected

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becuase

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And Thomas barely got in

2018-10-03 01:53:37 UTC

he was bork

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and THAT was the start of SC partisanship

2018-10-03 01:54:14 UTC

But the reason

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Why they started that with Bork

2018-10-03 01:54:39 UTC

Was due to fears he'll overturn roe

2018-10-03 01:54:59 UTC

And even civil rights legislation too

2018-10-03 01:55:08 UTC

roe was even

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and he easily could have won

2018-10-03 01:55:28 UTC

with a coalition of western rs+southern dems

2018-10-03 01:56:08 UTC

Well Southern Dems were the ones most strongly opposed to Thomas

2018-10-03 01:57:26 UTC

huh

2018-10-03 01:57:29 UTC

thats odd

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why

2018-10-03 02:00:50 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/430964259938238465/496864175557967903/image0.png

2018-10-03 02:00:56 UTC

This is weird

2018-10-03 02:01:18 UTC

yahe pmed me dude

2018-10-03 02:01:24 UTC

just let him vote for weatheboy

2018-10-03 02:01:48 UTC

@Deleted User then he should stop saying he’s a loyal fed lol

2018-10-03 02:01:53 UTC

And lying

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That’s a big one for me

2018-10-03 02:02:10 UTC

if hes annoying you

2018-10-03 02:02:17 UTC

just ignore him

2018-10-03 02:02:35 UTC

Well he’s nearly banned from the main cord

2018-10-03 02:02:42 UTC

On his last strike

2018-10-03 02:04:15 UTC

@Deleted User I just in general think our members shouldn’t Bs

2018-10-03 02:06:01 UTC

ideallu

2018-10-03 02:06:12 UTC

but just let it go

2018-10-03 12:19:57 UTC

When do we vote for president

2018-10-03 16:55:37 UTC

March definitely

2018-10-03 16:56:41 UTC

So March is when I cast my vote?

2018-10-03 22:07:00 UTC

That’s when I think

2018-10-04 23:43:21 UTC

Hi

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Hello

2018-10-05 00:00:16 UTC

@everyone quick poll, 👍 for pro choice 👎 for pro life

2018-10-05 00:02:13 UTC

Everyone

2018-10-05 00:04:28 UTC

It's not as simple as that

2018-10-05 00:04:57 UTC

I mean I get it

2018-10-05 00:05:11 UTC

But in general I’d like to gauge peeps on it

2018-10-05 00:05:20 UTC

Nothing wrong with being pro life lol

2018-10-05 00:08:13 UTC

pro life with the exception of rape or the mother's life is in danger

2018-10-05 00:12:38 UTC

Speaking of Gauge, should I gauge my ears?

2018-10-05 00:12:50 UTC

no

2018-10-05 00:21:51 UTC

Why

2018-10-05 00:22:01 UTC

I already have them pierced

2018-10-05 00:34:06 UTC

In my opinion gauges are really ugly

2018-10-05 00:34:20 UTC

Oh okay

2018-10-05 00:34:29 UTC

The almighty Arnold demands it

2018-10-05 00:46:54 UTC

my ears are stretched lol

2018-10-05 01:00:37 UTC

mostly pro-life with the exception of a mother's life. i'm open to a hard cutoff for everyone else though (before the earliest point at which a fetus is viable or can feel pain)

2018-10-05 03:47:26 UTC

I'm pro-choice until the point of viability

2018-10-05 03:47:57 UTC

but it's not a hardline issue for me so I'm not bothered by things like 20 weeks bans, etc.

2018-10-07 16:36:55 UTC

Hey, we should think of ways to get more people in our party. Should we try moving more towards the center?

2018-10-07 16:53:28 UTC

Well, we are pretty close to the center

2018-10-07 16:53:45 UTC

We need to bring more people in

2018-10-07 16:53:56 UTC

Take a more... moderate stance on guns?

2018-10-07 16:54:39 UTC

i think the move on trade from a hardcore free market position to more of a realist/fair trade position helped a lot

2018-10-07 16:55:06 UTC

Well, the Feds are pretty neutral as a whole

2018-10-07 16:55:10 UTC

On trade

2018-10-07 16:55:17 UTC

oh i thought you meant the GOP irl

2018-10-07 16:55:22 UTC

ignore that lol

2018-10-07 16:55:30 UTC

I don’t think we are going to win over people like Lumine

2018-10-07 16:55:39 UTC

do you have a link to the fed platform? @Deleted User

2018-10-07 16:55:43 UTC

Lumine hates the party for personal reasons

2018-10-07 16:55:48 UTC

Sure I'll find it

2018-10-07 16:56:13 UTC

Why does lumine hate us?

2018-10-07 16:56:59 UTC

Well mainly cuz there's too many doves in the party for his taste and he doesnt like how the party has held the white house for about the past 2 years

2018-10-07 16:57:01 UTC

@Deleted User have there been any censuses/polls of the atlasia voter base to see which are most important to moderates/independents/potential swing voters?

2018-10-07 16:57:21 UTC

Well, i know Yankee did a survey back in april

2018-10-07 16:57:32 UTC

Of the Fed members

2018-10-07 16:57:36 UTC

On ideology

2018-10-07 16:58:03 UTC

i'm new to this, but in terms of coalition building i think generally you want to do the following right

2018-10-07 16:58:08 UTC

(1) maximize base turnout

2018-10-07 16:58:13 UTC

(2) solidify squishy votes

2018-10-07 16:58:28 UTC

(3) see how you can expand to lower propensity independent voters without sacrificing (1) or (2)

2018-10-07 16:58:45 UTC

And our party has been pretty good at that imo

2018-10-07 16:59:08 UTC

if there aren't many lapsed voters or squishy types, then i guess you want to see what you can expand while minimizing losses from the base

2018-10-07 16:59:18 UTC

Also crossover appeal by presidential candidates is key

2018-10-07 16:59:39 UTC

Since there are always friendship votes

2018-10-07 16:59:51 UTC

As atlasia is much less polarized than RL

2018-10-07 17:00:02 UTC

Why does TG vote for feds in presidential elections?

2018-10-07 17:00:30 UTC

Cuz she likes right wingers on atlas

2018-10-07 17:00:34 UTC

I guess

2018-10-07 17:00:40 UTC

healthcare seems like an opportunity to gain more moderates, but then you sacrifice fiscal conservatism

2018-10-07 17:00:57 UTC

i think balancing the budget is pretty important for most right wing parties (even if in practice it's hard)

2018-10-07 17:01:17 UTC

Well healthcare was a big issue that allowed Feds to win a lot of centrist and center left people in 2017

2018-10-07 17:01:25 UTC

When they passed atlascare

2018-10-07 17:01:40 UTC

you know, something i've noticed, there isn't much about regulations and such. which gives the feds an opening

2018-10-07 17:01:46 UTC

maybe you could embrace green conservatism?

2018-10-07 17:02:04 UTC

are there any environmentalist moderates? or are most of them far left?

2018-10-07 17:02:08 UTC
2018-10-07 17:02:20 UTC

Well fhtagn is pretty environmentalist

2018-10-07 17:02:47 UTC

Also here is what atlascare is

2018-10-07 17:03:27 UTC

does atlasia have social security?

2018-10-07 17:03:33 UTC

Yeah

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It inherited all RL US laws when the game was reset in June 2016

2018-10-07 17:04:02 UTC

ah gotcha

2018-10-07 17:04:17 UTC

Meaning that the trump tax cuts never happened for example

2018-10-07 17:04:42 UTC

makes sense

2018-10-07 17:04:48 UTC

which of the two non-south regions is more viable for feds?

2018-10-07 17:04:49 UTC

But Obamacare was the law before atlascare passed

2018-10-07 17:04:56 UTC

Hmm

2018-10-07 17:05:10 UTC

I would say that both Lincoln and Fremont are hard

2018-10-07 17:05:25 UTC

And have their advantages and disadvantages

2018-10-07 17:05:45 UTC

Due to the current +40 lefty registration majority

2018-10-07 17:05:49 UTC

wew

2018-10-07 17:05:51 UTC

As a country

2018-10-07 17:06:28 UTC

is the left generally unified? or are there faults where they could splinter?

2018-10-07 17:06:44 UTC

Well the left has been in serious turmoil

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For a long time

2018-10-07 17:06:59 UTC

The left is splintered between three parties

2018-10-07 17:07:00 UTC

It's definitely not unified

2018-10-07 17:07:13 UTC

Yeah Labor, PUP, and Peace

2018-10-07 17:07:27 UTC

is one of them more moderate?

2018-10-07 17:07:31 UTC

Meh

2018-10-07 17:07:47 UTC

They all seem like generic center left to left parties

2018-10-07 17:07:57 UTC

the moderates are either Feds, indies, or whats left of alliance

2018-10-07 17:07:57 UTC

Without souls

2018-10-07 17:08:50 UTC

Also, are you considering running for something @Deleted User

2018-10-07 17:09:29 UTC

well i don't really have a voter record since i just signed up (i think registered for FL), but if there are any vacant positions that need to be filled i could help out

2018-10-07 17:10:00 UTC

Well i think there are Chamber of Delegates elections in the south in october

2018-10-07 17:10:35 UTC

ok, i'll look into that, thx

2018-10-07 17:10:43 UTC

also how do the conventions work?

2018-10-07 17:11:09 UTC

i would like to help out with the platform if that's needed

2018-10-07 17:15:32 UTC

@Deleted User Is annaokear about to be expelled

2018-10-07 17:21:15 UTC

you're looking at Atlasia's resident green libertarian-ish person!

2018-10-07 17:21:20 UTC

:P

2018-10-07 17:21:50 UTC

@Deleted User what kind of platform changes would you suggest to make the feds more of a green-conservative party?

2018-10-07 17:21:56 UTC

Am I Atlasia's resident middle ground could kind of fit anywhere person?

2018-10-07 17:22:32 UTC

used to be LT until he became alt-right :P
so I guess it's you now!

2018-10-07 17:25:35 UTC

@Deleted User one if the ways we had been tackling it was working towards repealing bad regulations while also pushing for environmentally friendly policies (ex. eco-tariffs)

2018-10-07 17:25:41 UTC

I don't really think the Feds would be a green conservative party and really it's mostly a center-center right party. We aren't extreme conservative and already pretty green I think.

2018-10-07 17:27:15 UTC

how would carbon taxes and subsidies/tax breaks for green infrastructure investment play with the fed base?

2018-10-07 17:27:34 UTC

Idk

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