@Ghost of Descartes well that’s because monarchy is one of the oldest forms of actual government

ik

all of them support isreal, and all of them are okay with race mixing

every single one i've met

gay

no u

O

conservatives are cucks

but i don't support Israel

what do you think of race mixing

idk

there we go

"The Fascist conception of life is a religious one (7), in which man is viewed in his immanent relation to a higher law, endowed with an objective will transcending the inúdividual and raising him to conscious membership of a spiritual society. "Those who perceive nothing beyond opportunistic considerations in the religious policy of the Fascist regime fail to realize that Fascism is not only a system of government but also and above all a system of thought."

I haven't looked into it.

" In the Fascist conception of history, man is man only by virtue of the spiritual process to which he contributes as a member of the family, the social group, the nation, and in function of history to which all nations bring their contribution. Hence the great value of tradition in records, in language, in customs, in the rules of social life (8). Outside history man is a nonentity. Fascism is therefore opposed to all individualistic abstractions based on eighteenth century materialism; and it is opposed to all Jacobinistic utopias and innovations. It does not believe in the possibility of "happiness" on earth as conceived by the economistic literature of the XVIIIth century, and it therefore rejects the theological notion that at some future time the human family will secure a final settlement of all its difficulties. This notion runs counter to experience which teaches that life is in continual flux and in process of evolution. In politics Fascism aims at realism; in practice it desires to deal only with those problems which are the spontaneous product of historic conditions and which find or suggest their own solutions (9). Only by entering in to the process of reality and taking possession of the forces at work within it, can man act on man and on nature (10)."

>not traditional

What is the higher law in fascism?

K

I guess I've been proved wrong.

But I still think that fascism is a horrible ideology and that traditionalist conservatism is better.

At least Italian fascism.

@Ghost of Descartes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falangism

You might like Falangism better

@here I am now John Paul Jones

No confusion

I think cuckservatives have already failed us more than I care to preserve them

Fascism is the only way forward

>using cuckservative unironically

thanks to whoever gave me my ex-staff role

Me

<:PingReee:459545654126051329>

>granting any level or respect to people who are liberals with a 30 year time delay

^MEMBERS

oooh

What is liberal right now will be conservative in a few decades

@Deleted User Libertarian Nativism is the way forward

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fascism is retarded

Libertarianism is a joke and conflicts with nativism entirely

Libertarians are obsessed with the individual

Libertarians are why you can advocate for fascism

it's a movement of selfishness

It is now selfish to believe that people should keep their money

Libertarianism is state sanctioned degeneracy

change my mind

and it shouldn't be taken

And that's why libertarianism is weak

I can undermine it at any time I want

And it's ideology is consistent with allowing people to take advantage of it for their own selfish gain

Liberty is the reason you can type your opinion as we speak

no it is not

You sound like a commie now

>he thinks liberty is exclusive to being a lolbertarian

Greed is taking from others

Liberty is what led to the position we find ourselves in today

oh dear

Liberty =/= libertarian

^

Libertarians believe that people should keep their money and be able to do as they please without violating people's rights

I don't think people should be able to fuck their dogs

I think those people should be lined up and shot

but a libertarian would vouch for that

they'd also vouch for letting interracial couples populate their society

and they'd allow jews to run their industries

The state and people should be seen as a body, and collaboration should be encouraged, albeit within a hierarchy

which is the situation we are in today

thanks to the enlightenment movement and of all of it's "liberal" thinkers

no

A nation that is built upon the pursuit of atomized self-interest will not last

Libertarians have the false notion that everyone lives in a fucking bubble

Here's what you're not getting

and that nobody is affected by your neighbor owning a child slave farm

oh fuck

that laws and morality are subjective and should hardly if at all be enforced

Anarcho capitalism is not Libertarianism

There's little difference

There is

one simply acknowledges what it is

the other is in denial

Libertarians don't want the NAP to be optional

both scenarios described would violate an animal or a human right

@Da_Fish At one point do you draw the distinction of someone's actions not affecting someone else? That's pretty subjective

AnCaps want all things to be optional

so do liberatarians

@The Big Oof No stealing, No harming/killing, no breaking contracts

No

@Deleted User

Everything that we live in today is a result of libertarian policies

I could say all of the wealth being in the hands of the few is bad for the economy, and therefore affects everyone else.

False

It's a pretty subjective position

Libertarianism does not cause a powerful 1%

regulation does

Hot take: All of your actions affect other people

The founding fathers left us with values of selfishness and individuality as our nation corrupted itself on this obsession

Hahahaha

Almost spilt my beer

Libertarian absolutely allowed for monopolies

Ok first

@Deleted User The founding fathers could not have foreseen what future their choices would have led to

Individuality is not selfishness

You cannot blame them

that's the way we are built

@The Big Oof maybe they should've had better philosophical takes then

Liberty built the greatest things of the world

Individuality is inherently selfish

Fascism just killed 100 million people through a huge war

No it is not

it is natural

@Da_Fish *National Socialism

we are individual creatures

nations are not designed to be individualistic or communist

All NatSocs are fascists but not all Fascists are NatSoc

National Socialism is just one branch of fascism, and it's even arguable as to whether or not it even is fascism.

Hitler's economic policies were capitalistic in nature

Ehhh

Nations are not individual creatures

He privatized nearly all of Germany's state owned industry

They are organic bodies of people that need to work together

Strasserism was the original nazbol gang

Again wrong

people that need to consider society over their personal fetishes and degenerate obsessions

Humans have done some of our greatest work alone

eh

Our best art, music, monuments, people all made because people left people alone

Fascism leads to a life not worth living

i don't like fascism

but community is important

Fascism in itself is specific to italy. NS is the german equivalent. Every different version of fascism is not going to be an italian copy, but a philosophy specific to that nation.

And they all failed

No they didn't?

and got stomped off the earth

Peronism was certainly not a failure

They were literally toppled by the entire world

He was elected 3 times

errr

Served 3 terms

The whole of the industrialized society destroyed something that was working effectively

>fascism
>elections

Well, he certainly was elected the third time

The one before it you can argue wasn't legitimate

and he didn't gain power through democratic means

time for a shower

But he was supported by the people

He was so popular that even after he was exiled, the people wanted him to return to power

Liberty builds ---> Government Destroys ---> Liberty rebuilds ∞

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Per%C3%B3n @Da_Fish

Wikipedia article, but it's a good summary

Argentina is in the shitter

And do you know why?

Because of Videla

It wasn't in the shitter when Peron was there

Videla destroyed their economy

I would have to read more on Peron before I refute you

but I certainly will

links to anymore good resources would be helpful

Well, one thing you're going to notice is that in the middle of his first term, there was a financial crisis, but he took measures to correct it, and, judging by how wages grew again afterwards, I'd say they worked @Da_Fish

what did he do

Throughout Peron's time in power, I would say he alternated between corporatism and austerity policies

That;s an oversimplification, though

What's happening and who pinged me twice

@Da_Fish changed his name

The main thing he did that I would say was a mistake

was pursuing a policy of isolationism

at the time it made sense

He thought the United States and USSR were going to war soon

and wanted to limit Argentina's dependence on other countries that might be affected

what iS thiS "ex-Staff" role

🤔

Conservatism is being not socially retarded

Normie neo-“conservatism” is a joke

ok bye

@L0GAN I was an admin and I resigned, so he gave me that role so I look cool

You resigned...

Gay

no u

@everyone every minute in Africa a minute passes you rises aweness by spreading the message today

Fag

The fuck did you resign for

You were good

I'm a lazy cunt I literally haven't done anything in a week

@Doctor Anon make me staff ya Russian Slav

hello

@Milk said he is too bust irl

@L0GAN let a commie be staff?

I keep getting annoyed about staff apps

I’m a good commie, I obey papa anon

The Right Cafe staff be like: gay and dumb and lazy

#maketheretardedcommieconsul

#don'tmaketheretardedcommieconsul

#don’tdon'tmaketheretardedcommieconsul

Libtards rekt

Ben sharpio...

That weird Indian immigrant...

@everyone Daily Question 🔖

Can and should Islam go through its own reformation?

Rei

I doubt it could, but it 100% fucking should.

It can but it shouldn't

probably

but it wont

No, no, they're friends but have to go back

it could go through a reformation but it has no reason not to

it just needs to be less hostile

It has been tried and always fails

Technically Islam has been reformed, by the Ummayads, which was a step backwards

oof

i don't think it can with all the salafists, but it really needs to

Yeah, the only reformation that works is radicalization

The teachings of Imam Hussein can teach Muslims great lessons

But he was killed by the Ummayads

On a month you shouldn't kill anyone

Poor Imam

no

no thank you

hou

And the first ummayad caliph was drunk and played with prositutes

Ummayads are overrated

The Ummayads were no true Muslims, they are the founders of Wahhabism when you really get down to it

What a great muslim

Yes, just reform a several thousand year old religion cuz you think it’s bad, sounds genius

bAn iSlAm

Could Ismalism be a model for the future islam?

sHiTskiNs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isma%27ilism

It's not the religion, it's the fact that for centuries the Middle East has been ruled by Anti-Secular empires

Ismailis aren't considered Muslims by certain sects of islam @Da_Fish

yeah

ik

Yeah they're gay

Such as the ottomans and Ummayads

because they're very liberal

no they're autistic

I'm a shia Muslim from Iraq and I'm liberal 😭

Could Ataturk be a model for islams future?

It can but shouldn't and should die all together as a faith

alot of movements are respectful but ultimately overrated

>involving secularism

Islam is perfect just the way it is ❤

>muh reformation

^^

@Vilhelmsson knows what's up

Islam doesn't need to be reformed, but the governments in the Middle East are the problem

Iran and Saudi Arabia are ruining the name of Islam

No wonder Republicans hate us so god damn much

islam is only having problems because israel exists

Israel doesn't deserve the land it has

outside of the ottomans islam has stayed in the same place for my than 1.5 milennia

And trump messed up relations with everyone in the Middle East

fuck off with your islam

keep it in the middle east