no u

Authoritards get the helicopter

Nothing to do with authority

it has everything to do with authority

Democracy is legitimately terrible for everyone

It's due to democracy that you can't force your view on everyone else so you seek an option where others have less ability to resist what you think is right

*Democritards get the bullet

Except the elites

And what do elites get in any other system? Power.

Just the same as democracy

Did you even read what I said?

shutup liberal

>wanting a classical republic is liberal

It is

Democracy is the most liberal system

false

Large business is multinational so the qotd is moot

Democracy: everyone is equal and has a say in the running of society for everyone else.
Classical republic: understanding that people have a say but it is only select groups with investment in the system, and there is a natural hierarchy of authority.

That isn't true though

Democracy serves the interest of the least amount of people in society. Monarchies are preferable. At least a monarch has a sense of ownership of the nation, and duty to it.

That isn't true either

A monarch has a duty to his ego

only what he wants to do as true monarchs view themselves as divinely appointed

The Founding Fathers knew that Direct Democracy was flawed, hence they created the Electoral College. That way Mob Rule wasn't the main driving force of political decisions within the country

And the divinely appointed know that they must serve the will of the divine. They are put in place to rule the nation well. Not for their own interest.

false

Except for all of the middle ages

You are probably mistaking divinely appointed monarchs with divine monarchs.

wait so is the threat foreign businesses vs domestic?

You are mistaking truth with truthn't

or foreign whatever vs businesses

Yea

Oof I've been btfo'd

How will I ever recover?

You have been Obongobozled™

*>watches in Ceaserism*

Foreign influence is nearly non-existent except in the deluded minds of the left. The damage that mass media has inflicted upon the population cannot be overstated. Visual media has induced spiritual (in the widest sense) corruption upon Americans, and this is our chief export, so to the world as well. To say that the foreign element has any tangible influence is an outright denial of reality, and a creation then of a false reality.

1/3 of Americans think 2020 election will he decided by a foreign power

communism is the only solution

@PebbЛe gay

How did you go from fascist to commie

@PebbЛe

i like truth

we will save the white race with communism

Domestic influence is far more of a danger in a "Democratic" environment. I would say this because there is already some level of trust there by the people of a Nation to a well-known company, or brand.

Unless we're talking major subterfuge by mass immigrants to sway the tide of a race in their favour.

Domestic influence from large businesses

@everyone Daily Question 🔖

Is it ever okay to sacrifice civil liberties in the name of security?

No

Obviously

A little bit is always needed

I like my house not being raided by gangs because the police is there to protect me

Yes

But do I want that police taking people weapons away? Nah

Yes

Or searching my house for drugs for absolutely no reason? No

Sure, security is needed, but I will never give up my Civil Liberties for the Patriot Act.

Yeah, basically what @Miguelinileugim said

Broke

We need to trade a bit of liberty for a lot of security, never the other way around

@Gamer4713 That's trading lots of liberty for a little security ie a bad idea

I do not want my liberties taken away for security.

I will give away one small one at most.

no u

Yeah, ofc

Sometimes you just have to

Some

Not completely

Privacy is needed so people can experiment on not so nicely percieved actions whithout persecutions

Its just humans

While monitoring streets with a lotta cameras and buying data from facebook google+ is quite on line but acceptable, spying with hidden microphones in CPUs (which did happen if you dont remember the famous reddit controversy) is completely off charts and should be punishable

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op op op op

oppan gangnam style

Why?

Suspending civil liberties should only be done sparingly if ever, and even then only the most dire of circumstances, such as nationwide famine or invasion.

Civil liberties should be warred against

Indeed

yes, civil liberties can be withdrawn for emergencies. However, rights cannot be infringed

depends what civil liberties

some yes some no

What Campodin said

Yeah it's fine.

what exactly is defined as "civil liberties" and how are they different from your rights?

The police are not there to protect you, they are there to protect the law.

Yes

@grilomoto civil liberties are the things the government allows you to do and protects.

sacrifice multiple civil liberties

the only real dependence is what kind of government it is

is it a nepotistic deep state

or one true to its people

protection of privacy is a good example of a civil liberty imo

@campodin and how that differs from your rights? any example?

oh ok good

Answer is no

it is really murky waters because naturally the two overlap

voting is a civil liberty

where i'm from voting is obligatory 😢

@Summī Imperator, 呪い殿 what's the difference if it is part of the law that they should protect you?

Because ultimately the police serve the state, and must follow the laws of the Governing force.

Otherwise they don't have a job

but what's the practical difference?

Well, the difference is that if you have a law that demands their protection of the people then it is not impossible to amend laws by bills and reduce, or remove that obligation to protect.

what

"the right" is impossible to define accurately, thus proving once again the right/left paradigm is a tool of our enemy. It is not right v left, rather national v global

I intend to be on the side of nationhood, even if that means I may seem like a "leftist" at times to some

@V-NAF_Aardist this is true, for what does the fascist have in common with a monarchist or the libertarian with your typical Christian conservative? Yet all these are apparently rightwing ideologies.

@everyone Daily Question 🔖

Should the United States be worried about China? Are they a threat militarily or economically?

GAY

no u

yes

China number 1

china needs to die

China numba wun

@campodin yes

chai na namba wunnn

China numba wannn

Caina numba wann

China is a threat, both economically, and military wise.

No u

China #1

While the USA could "defeat" them, that isn't the goal.

hitler did everything wrong

Nobody can defeat the mighty Chinese

They should, China can't do shit however. It can only be considered a strong opponent, if it has Russia on its side. Otherwise, China has no air and no navy forces, really.

yes

Shut up Koni

China #1

No you

@Summī Imperator, 呪い殿 what is the goal?

Kill you are self

My my am self

the USA should look out for China in Korea and South East China sea, it is also likely in the future China's economy will heavily rival the US economy.

the Chinese government though seems to be compitent enough to not start a world war though

The goal is to strengthen their claim to the waters around Asia, and to be such a nuisance that engaging them would have losses greater than the worth of what they lay claim to.

They won't declare a world war, unless Korea is involved

you can tell Xi Jinping knows the wonders of Capitalism, seeing him as a communist fool is literally foolish

China will get its ass handed to NATO, without Russia

I don't know enough to comment

debatable

China has next to unlimited manpower and a powerhouse economy

in the unlikely case war starts even

@Deleted User then why did they capitulate to trump in the recent "trade war"?

if North Korea does something stupid China will most probably only join in small numbers and do jack shit, unless North Korea is the one getting invaded in a strike

Manpower? China doesn't have enough navy to CARRY all these men.

Nor air force

^

Their military is primarily land based

That's why they are making them.

An invasion of the US against China would be hard to succeed, and the casualtied would be pretty big.

And why they are manufacturing islands.

they could have a massive boost of any sort of vehicles if they wanted too

But China can't stand a chance

the amount of factories can be reverted to war economy if they wanted

Against NATO.

IF Russia joins the game, then it's a stalemate

I dont know

Russia has a strong military and air force

To think that they have no chance at all would be admitting defeat.

And navy as well

Overconfidence will cause leniency.

"Russia has a strong Navy" ok

Are Russia and China together really equal to the USA?

they are decently up there

And Russia wants China as an ally

China doesn't think it is worth it yet.

why wouldn't China want Russia as an ally

Because China's economy can't make up for the sanctions on Russia.

military and political power willing to side with it

anyone would take it

If USA declares war, though, China will immediately remember that Russia is their friend

why would war start

honestly

Perhaps because China thinks it can have better relations with the USA without Russia?

Let's suppose it somehow starts

No matter how

both sides have brain cells, war with eachother would do more harm than good

it'd take actual centuries for any sort of profit to be made

Some wars can't be avoided

Some

I'm sure a US vs China can be

They are too entangled economically imo

That's not the topic though

But yes, China is a threat, Economically and Military wise.

Militarily, it's not as dangerous as Russia

Not a threat that could not be dealt with, but the losses for dealing with it would out weigh any benefit.

China can't invade the US. I mean, any sea invasion would end into a defeat, and would cost a lot to the chinese (non-existant, honestly) navy

@Summī Imperator, 呪い殿 do you think China knows this and is using it to its advantage?

Yes.

They're becoming bold

China has a compitent government, it should be fact, so playing with them isn't a joke

And Putin and Jinping have met for personal dinners a few times this year.

They make pancakes together too.

Lol

Lmfao

And China doesn't care about invading the USA

^

they don't want war just as much as anyone else

They just want to see how far they can go in their area of influence.

I WAS PONGED

which is reasonable as a new and upcoming superpower

Do you think that is part of why China doesn't ally with Russia?

Yes.

It is.

ok what do you see as a superpower

Russia has their influence in the middle east, USA has Europe, and China needs to find its influence

Jinping considers Putin a personal friend

China has its influence

china likes africa more

But the economy of China can't supplement the Russian Economy without the USA.

all the middle east has is oil

superpower: a nation with a large military (over a million) owns any sort of union/alliance and has influence on regions around the world

Africa has a lot more resources to exploit and land to develop

China meets almost all of those checks

China is already striking deals with African nations

China is buying up Africa

@Deleted User what about economy, and stable social conditions

the Kenyan capital-coast highway projec was supervised by China

(((China)))

china has economy

but its social conditions

second largest

social conditions don't really matter when you have the power to not care

What do you mean? It has perfect social conditions. If somebody gets ran over and dies, nobody reports it.

The body just sits there until the cleaners come.

If the person gets ran over and lives, they can immediately claim insurance and they'll automatically win in court.

Especially if the driver takes responsibility, it doesn't matter the circumstances in which they run someone over. It's just a crime in general.

like china's factories are like that of around a century ago

horrible labor laws

What was wrong with those factories?

with workers being treated inhumane and with low pay

China has never had the notion of regulating labour laws

an unstable people = an unstable country

why does the government need to care

Well SOMEONE has to make the iPhones

Ever since the Han Dynasty collapsed.

An unstable people which doesn't have a lot of guns.

it's not like they're going to revolt they can't try and revolt

the government will shut them down before they try

and china really is fucking itself with allies since they insist on being a "communist party"

Russia could care less

You don't need guns to bring a nation to its knees

Iran could care less

theyre allies = countries theyve forced to have economic dependance on them

No they're not, nobody cares that China's "communist"

@Deleted User merica does

implying they are even "communist"