democracy does not exist

>voting on wether I-95 has a speed bump is inherently violent

except it is

Oh you're gonna trigger me now Democracy is my fetish

because taxation is inhernetly violent

democracy is trash

so the use of public funds is inherently violent because it stems from taxation

so every political system is inherently violent

democracy just tries to hide the reality

just a false sense of involvement

Yeap

@Griselda Poland should always be majority polish, Germany should be majority Germans, and so on. This should not be altered

and hamstringing of any productive use of government when there is someone who can do something good

so America should be Majority Native American?

even the founding fathers agreed

violent revolution is required

not just voting

@Griselda America's ethnic group is European

you need to kill the ruling class sometimes

Not native American

it's just a required aspect of change

its a total waste of energy for the "participants" aka voters too because all the issues become part of our "circle of concern" but are all far outside our "circle of influence"

Europe should be Majority Neanderthal

all humans should be shipped back to africa

autistic overexaggeration

Strawman

Yeah that's the point

I don't even remotely understand your point

or what it accomplishes

In group preference

Multicultural cuck

Politics is inherently violent via taxation

democracy is trash, bring back hereditary monarchy in our time

Poland should always be majority polish, Germany should be majority Germans, and so on. This should not be altered

individualism will result in out group preference

give some european princes a principality in usa

I can just as easily call you a "monocultural cuck"

voila

out group preference = worse quality of life for you

thus it is counter productive to not be a collectivist with in group preference

Whites didn't go from 80% of the USA

96% of Canada

to now

nearly half or less

because of in group preference

it was """individualism"""

Individualism is a codeword for out group preference

the non white people in america are in group if theyre american now

interesting thought. If we have royals in america, we could vote for the reigning monarch everytime one dies, and then they get the role for life. Would be an interesting twist on presidential elections

@Jay1532 royals are retarded

Monarchy was nice because there was no sugar coating

if the king was shit you had to kill him

not really

Or have a coup

one of the two

you have a group that has a stake in the future of the country

instead of these turncoats that only care about themselves

A republic where white men only vote is best

No I still agree monarchy is theoretically the better system

And you had to serve a term in the military

Yes doctor but none of those stayed that way

and mandatory military service is in general a bad idea

South Korea does it

if a nation doesn't want to serve in the military just let the nation fall

you have diane feinstein in the pocket of china, and a bunch of others like hillary selling the country to the highest bidder

Mandatory military service is key

USA only gets recruits because of pay

70%+ join purely for pay

stop romanticizing it

give the country to royals and at least they will improve the country for the ego enhancing capability

they have nothing to gain by short term thieving.

@Deleted User instill values of nationalism in schools

unlike democracy where they have everything to gain

Im sure 90% of all military recruits in history were either forced in via conscription or forced in softly via pay

every other opportunity was likely bad

no, a lot of military had huge prestige

Literally only for officers

Enlisted were 90%

Go ask the average enlisted in the navy

yeah, but peasants had a better life even if they werent officers

about this shit

Yeah that's pay

Not because of 'national pride'

Youth should have to serve in the Military at 18 for 2 years

unless you were some retard

who joined after 9/11

to die for israel

well, obviously there must be some social or monetary benefit

thats true for any human action

social/monetary benefit is the core

everything else is made up

I have a friend who just joined the military because he wanted to travel and is being stationed in okinawa

'company culture'

that's an aspect of pay

I know I was just giving an example

He received value

yeah

I was agreeing with you

ah well yeah

I was gonna join the navy for a while

I mean to an extent even honor from serving is a form of "pay"

talked to a lot of navy vets

they're all cynical as fuck

and all told me it's garbage

and the pay is the only good part

i mean, show me an example of human action thats not insanity that has neither social compensation nor monetary

Navy is trash are you retarded

and travel

before we go down this rabbit whole that its even relevant to the topic

I joined the coast guard instead

HAHAHA

that new space force looks pretty fun

same pay nibba

@Griselda space force will be a real thing

I know and it'll be fun

People laughed when they introduced air Force

well

navy sucks because there is less time to be around adoring females

They laughed harder than they laughed now

unlike army

Navy is full of homosexuality

I wasn't being sarcastic I'm all for space force. take my tax dollars uncle sam this is what I want them used on

idk why anyone would join the army

for any reason except maybe cyber

Coast guard pays the same

I don't hate them it's just a very strange decision

see @Griselda i know that was in jest but it still shows an internalization that your opinion matters as far as the governments concerned

thats a false mindset, but a common one

@Deleted User I know plenty of people who joined out of a sense of duty and patriotism

They do exist

Rare in the navy

They are a sizeable minority

and CG

it's not internalized, I beleive it does in America. it's external motherfucker.

I've talked to a few dozen before joining so I'm not BSing

But are actually a fairly large minority

I'm legitimately stating what they said

Navy is cucked

they probably exist more often in Army/AF/Marines

Go look at Marines

whats external? that everyones opinion counts?

can anyone have this delusion?

I have that delusion

Marines have the most nationalists

I joined 90% for money 10% because I had no good options

well 100% because no good options

lmao

well, i mean at least have the self-awareness that time spent thinking about this bullshit is time wasted

I'm considering either legit space force, or army

could be creating something or doing something productive

politics is worse than vidya even

I want space Force, I'll gladly pay more in taxes for that shit

but instead im wasting it talking about hypotheticals that i have no control over

because politics makes you legitimately mad

as are we all

yeah

@Deleted User I'm trying to join a local political party, or the GOP and run as an anti politician

yeah, as soon as you get some power, on the other hand

then such things are in your circle of influence

I don't vote tbqh

I have plans for if I ever somehow got into power @Jay1532

simply because I think it has no value

demographics are more important than voting

@Deleted User vote for me cunt

i can be your himmler

:winky face:

No

You're Catholic

no im not

Good boy

Okay maybe u can

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I forgot to add the part where he killed them all

im non-denom right now, its mega cucked though so im hoping to switch to another church in the next few years

still holding onto hope that they will get new leadership

I'm currently Baptist

i heard baptist is getting more cucked these days, no?

I thought about joining orthodoxy for the global network instead

@Jay1532 The opposite

Protestants as a whole are

Not Baptists

Baptists are the traditionalists

proddies are 99% cucked

That 1% that isn't

Is Baptists

I know I'm just saying

I agree with the original lutherans

modern ones have rainbow flags and shit

well, i know baptist has reputation for being traditional, but i heard somewhere it was changing

@Jay1532 probably one minority of a minority of it

The church I go to basically hates even holding hands before marriage

Don't even sleep in the same bed until marriage

My main issue with protestants is that there's no global network to point to

like when you have grandchildren if your church closes

there's no good representation of it for them

yeah, my church basically ignores most moral questions and focuses on the social gospel right now. its stupid

where as with orthodoxy there is

used to be a great leadership team too until the old guy retired

My church is extremely traditional

Exactly like that jay

you could find the best protestant church

The millennials are as or even more traditional

and your kids would walk into something unrecognizable

yeah

i talked personally with the old pastor

mind you, this is a mega church of like 30,000 or more and more reach than that

Baptists should separate from Protestants

I have no theological preference for orthodox

he had a lot of insights about why the churches are getting cucked

Orthodox is superior to Catholics tho

trad Catholicism seems based, but pretty rare and hard to find

They are

More tolerant

@Jay1532 Trad Baptists are better

And there are a greater quantity in terms of percentage

Yeah but that only exists in the USA

No

Ukraine-Russia-Belarus-Moldova

Have a big Trad Population

But most of them don't report on it

I've been there, almost everyone I met was a Trad as fuck Baptist

@iSpringfield fuck catholics

and stop advertising

Yes, do not advertise

Make the government too small for corporate influence to even matter.

make govorment representatives have theri position be in constant question, ergo can be ant any moment removed for any reaosn by the people that elected them. Alternatively also punish lobby by hanging

Arrest all infiltrators.

Execute the worst ones for treason.

Business is just an extension of a group or individual. To limit businesses ability to act is an infringement on people's rights and punishing them for the wrong kind of freedom of association

@Milk apologies, I didn’t know

No, eat the rich.

For the question about positve rights, yes but i wouldn't term them positive rights i would just term them services, and really i would rather the state contract private agencies to fulfill those services as i believe they would do them better. As for big business, we need to de-democratize central government so that politicians don't need corporate money, or any money for that matter since elections won't be that big a deal, only local democracies can work because the people can organize on a much more easy and pragmatic order to hold politicians accountable for their corruption.

democracy should be crushed by the might of the khan and the wealth of the companies plundered

@campodin what about businesses like google, Apple, and Microsoft, They may founded in America but have significant influence from other nations, specifically Eastern Asia

I’m with @J E S S E

no the government should influence corporations

anyone who outsources our jobs gets their families taken away

Corporations should not influence the government

big business shouldn't be able to influence democratically elected politicians in any way imo

@Doctor Anon I would say international corporations shouldnt

but you cant just be like "send that bakery owner to prison for having a pro trump poster on his property"

@L0GAN businesses can have political associations, but not ones vital to the people like water, electrical, and major social media platforms, just not *influence*

Oh i completely agree with that

Private property needs to be rethinked with the invention of social media and the internet

The best way to not have business become large is by no longer supporting them. By not supporting them, they won't grow big and will most likely close down. Support the ones you think would be best for the future, instead of supporting a multi-media dollar corporation. But again, how would you do that when all of the business have already been successful back then as it is now? That's my answer to the question.

@Matthew John (aka Coastermaker) problem is you'd need a very large group of people to make q difference now

Like for YouTube, there probably won't be any actual competition for a while, it's a monopoly

That is why I mentioned in the last part is "How would you do it if the company is already successfu back then as it is now?" There you go.

@L0GAN foreign companies should have no say in ones government or politics.