conversion therapy doesn't work

so whats wrong with being agirly guy

just tell em they are a girly guy and thats that

that's different

associating gender with mentality is stupid

Many who transition realize it was a mistake and didn't actually solve their mental issue

Gay black Nazis vs 6'4" blonde objectivists who wins?

woke transgenderism is actually sexist

yeah cause they still face stigma

gender transition can't solve problems transgender people face

No, regardless of their acceptance they are still suicidal

^

even in societies where they are accepting

It is an issue of messed up biology. It is a medical problem.

This is true

Even in the most accepting countries

the suicide rate is still extremely high

The Netherlands, for example

we need to offer medical assistance

and tell them they dont know what a girl is

Why would stigma cause suicide rates at high as 40%? Can you name a single other example of something like this that isn't a result of mental illness also?

also we need to turn suicidal people into egoists

Bullying doesn't even lead to anywhere near as high as 40% suicide rate

yeah looks like it's also mental health shit

it's a 40% attempt rate

but still

When we talk about it as a mental illness we're ignoring the vast majority of people who are homosexual/adopting it as a fad, and who later regret it or move on.

but conversion therapy doesn't work so being accepting is the most helpful ting

im bullied and harassed for being t mutt im not suicidal

An extremely small minority of the population actually has gender dysphoria.

people should get over themselves

gender dysphoria is not the same as transgenderism

#doubt

also .3 percent of the us is transgender so it does matter

I said extremely small minority.

3 percent of the usa needs mental help

gender dysphoria is negative symptoms caused by transgenderism

Other way around.

i think more than 3 percent of the usa needs mental help

You can use whatever euphemistic jargon you want, the fact is that whatever you want to call it it affects an extremely small minority of the population.

And people latch onto it as a fad or as a manifestion of homosexuality.

add 3 percent to whatever you think the percent is

i wouldn't assume that a transgender person isn't actually transgender tho

even if that's a thing that happens

No, but you can make a statistical rundown and be certain there is a very very small chance they actually are.

i can't find your majority statistic

imagine a fascist america

You could look at how many people are clinically diagnosed vs. the surge of people who have come out in the past few years as transgender.

The argument that some movement has encouraged people to "come out" at this magnitude would take a lot of mental gymnastics.

i want to help trans people stop being trans

they have different brains

It is not helpful to enable the mentally ill in their fantasies.

you can't just change that

yeah but we can change mentality

even if it would be positive

which idk

You don't tell a paranoid schizophrenic that they are in fact God and they they should be accepted for who they are.

its more like "i wish i was a girl but im a dude so meh"

That's not how it's ever worked.

get people to not care about their gender

Just a byproduct of the subjective culture and feminist degeneracy.

it's not tho

Yeah, it is.

there is medical science proving that transgenderism is real

it's not cultural

it's at least partially genetic

Not the clinical condition. 🤦

The surge of people saying that they are when they aren't.

that's a minority according to the article's i've found

so insanity is genetic

I wouldn't expect more than 50% of people to say they're transgender, no.

the only thing that makes gender is chromosomes

detransitioners i mean

We need to medicate people with gender dysphoria and put them through aggressive therapy.

compared to the actual transgender people

that aggressive therapy doesn't work and is counterproductive

lobotomize the part of the brain thats transgender

So... we should get them to have thousand dollar surgeries that mutilate their bodies and do absolutely nothing for their mental state instead?

You know Johns Hopkins, the hospital that pioneered the surgery, no longer does it because of how fucking useless it is.

Transgender surgery is a joke.

The link between transgenderism and preexisting mental illness is insane.

at least it can be helpful even if it usually doesn't solve anything

How is it helpful?

What does it do?

ruin peoples lives

for some transgender people they feel more secure about their identity

but that's a minority

Statistically not supported.

Suicide rates are the same before and after.

it sterilise them, that's useful

and yeah transgender people have mismatched brains and chromosomes mental illnesses will be more common

For the many that are going through a phase or unable to cope with their homosexuality it permanently mutilates their body and ruins their life.

but conversion therapy is not a good way of dealing with that

lobotomy is

The surgery should be illegal.

show me one instance in which lobotomy has had positive effects on a transgender person

brain surgery for every mental illness

we have better science now

Uhhh how many lobotomies have been given to transgender people?

transgenderism isn't inherently a medical illness there's just a correlation

You're asking for something impossible.

why do we need to be concerned by the well-being of transgender people?

because there americans

Until two seconds ago the DSM said it was a mental illness.

because they are people and compassion is nice

we have better science now

is this an argument about trans

you may as well become an efilist then

The science didn't change lmao

The science did not change an iota between before and after they reclassified it.

mental illness is not science

You can safely say it was a political conciliatory move.

yes it is

lobotmize anyone who is trans not gay

because gay people at least know what they are

so do transgender people

i dunno what I am

I just take hormones because it makes me feel better about myself

how I look and feel etc

do you have a dick or vagina

I imagine most trans want the same thing

its simple

just dont think about it

or care

your body should not be part of your identity

but it's nice to not hate your body

taking action to change it how you want in an age where that's possible should be encouraged

caring about your body is retarded

then you can love yourself and others and focus on more of life unrelated to yourself

no it's natural

nature is retarded

it might not be logical but it's easier and more healthy to improve your body than stop caring

also if your gay all you have to do is look at yourself and youll already be hard

no that's actually narcissism

little different

that's wrong...

narcissism sexuality is correct

people usually are not their own type

why not

who wouldnt want another them

you see it all the time, it's uninteresting

same thing when you have a wife or husband

is cheating moral?

generally no

you don't see them *all* the time

you don't know everything about them

not if your a good boyfriend

or girl friend

i disagree

why

being a good boyfriend does not involve extracting all of your girlfriend's secrets

also if someone is depressed because they are lonely and feel no one loves them

stalk them

what...?

because replacing one problem with another is ideal

that's not genuine and reciprocal love tho

you could do self improvement instead and get to a point where you're confident enough to be social and ask someone out

they wont feel that way when they call the cops

its like if that cute girl was your stalker

she's not cute she's creepy

stalking isn't cute

did i say cute i meant physically attractive

r u like into yandere types?

no just bored

and the question is dead

Anime archetypes are for losers.

what if all the women who hate me actually are madly in love with me xdxd

@εïз irma εïз rape isnt a pleasent expirence

that's a tsundere

A tsundere is an anime archetype.

the yandere want to make a bodypillow with your scalp

They are all dumb and unrealistic cookie cutter character archetypes meant to mass produce shitty media that asocial pasty nerds eat up in their sexual frustration.

the IJA needs to fund it's war effort in a way or an other

i am proud of having only watched 10 seconds of anime in my life

epic

based, white and redpilled

The primary purpose of the government is to maintain nationhood, i.e. a country that is synonymous with the character of the people that inhabit it, rather than just a political body with an economy.

anime is psycho-sexual warfare against america and is japans way of seeking revenge for the a-bombs

i had a good idea

what if we funded brain transplants

thats the solution to transexuality

it doesn't need a complicated solution

its pretty simple

and helps 2 trans people

just do normal mental health treatments for any issues that rise up

and you can reproduce

brain transplants aren't simple it's a dangerous process

yes it is but we should do research into it

why?

Funding brain transplants for curing of trans people is fucking retarded

delegitimizing transgenderism only creates more problems

would you rather do mutiple surgeries for something that threatens their life mutiple times

or do 1 surgery that helps two people

@The American Nationalist A bullet works better. No Bullets? I suggest religious therapy.

one's unethical one has no solvency

transgender people don't need to be cured of transgenderism

they arent being cured

they are being granted a new body

@21tagtmeiern Yes they do

they literally become a woman

since its just a brain problem

but that changes their personality

which is unethical

@21tagtmeiern Being trans is unethical. so what?

explain that

uhmm no it doesnt

the brain is the soul and you

YOU get a new body

oh i get it

sorry i wasn't understanding

u know what if that's what trans people want that's cool

also @Doctor Anon what do you think unethical means?

if i could help someone that way

id pay for the surgery myself

im okay if youre okay and that makes everyone OK!

transgenders are not at fault

its the smug jewish surgeons with big eyes when they walk into their clinic that are at fault

hehehe lets mutilate some gentiles today! big payday for me

ur blaming the jews for this?

wow

what problem can't be attributed to jews?

@21tagtmeiern Being trans is against the wishes of our Creator. It is immoral to do so, since it violates the gift of life God has given away for you. There are only 2 genders, there is male and female for the bible says so.T he binary of male and female is God’s idea, and if we are meant to embrace, by divine design, our biological and creational difference as men and women, then it stands to reason that the confusion of these realities would be displeasing to God.

oh ik

yeah, jews could never be at fault for any anti-social cultural trends

my mistake

the ones created by blacks and hispanics

nah, they are mostly victims of jewish manipulation, too

you do not blame the deceived, you blame the deceiver.

im 1 percent jewish 😊

first off i'm pretty sure god isn't real

im getting blamed for everything 1 percent

well, you are wrong God is real

so, repent

The unfaithful will be prayed for, @21tagtmeiern .

thanks i guess

and yes i too will pray for you, good thought @Doctor Anon

i used to be christian but it was a waste of time

@Jay1532 Im faithful not unfaithful.

@21tagtmeiern I was atheist, and later converted.

@Doctor Anon i meant i would pray for @21tagtmeiern

@Jay1532 Ah alright, good.

you are wrong, it is the only thing worth time @21tagtmeiern

i can't find biblical evidence for why transgenderism is wrong

what society tells you is worth your time is sand in a sieve

i was indoctrinated to christianity by my school and it didn't stick because i never felt fulfilled by religion

what do your feelings have to do with it

use your mind, your soul man not your body

such a female way of thinking

The Bible says homosexuality is wrong but it doesn't say transgenderism is wrong so it basically condones it haha no I'm not a Christian but take my word for it

@21tagtmeiern You aren't meant to seek benefit from religion.