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is that people with higher education, or those with more knowledge of the world

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tend to be left-leaning

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while those who rely excessively on brute force and brawn over their mind

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tend to be right leaning

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I getcha, @Porpoise

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@Alice Redacted being higher up in the military takes mastery of mind lol

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@Alice Redacted Or perhaps teachers don’t get payed much and naturally lean left

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Eh, true - Listening to propaganda and pulling a trigger while looking at things is so incredibly intellectually demanding

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I mean, some get paid well

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You’re a retard

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some military jobs require really high IQ

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I've looked at salary listings

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being a sniper in a tense situation does require a lot of brain speed

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I mean, if you're like an engineer or something

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Quick reflexes isn't intelligence ngl

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it's not about reflexes

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it's about quick thinking

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kinda is though

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calculation involved

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You just described β€œhigher up[s] in the military” as requiring only the ability to listen to propaganda and pull a trigger

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Thinking about spilling some civilian's guts

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do you hate all military or only the good guys?

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Eh, at that rank I guess you're commissioning propaganda and ordering teenagers to their death

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You're implying there's good guys in the military

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are all militaries bad?

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Especially America's

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you hate all of em and especially the good guys

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>Good guys

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You, uh

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that's right

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do realize

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US troops killed 600,000+ Iraqi civlians

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we permit torture

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there's plenty of unreported rape in the military...

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minimal punishments, if any, for those caught...

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civilians weren't killed intentionally and most iraq civilian numbers are inflated

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we permit torture to save our own lives

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Eh, yeah, butchering an entire town with a machine gun is usually

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not because we think torture is moral

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pretty accidental

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I agree

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I mean, who hasn't done that once or twice?

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Also, torture's ineffective, people'll just tell you what you want to hear more or less

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no one did that

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plus, we kinda

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use it against civilians

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that's a seperate argument

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like that, or

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do you think that we should get rid our military?

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Slash funding severely I say

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cut all aid to Israel

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keep some troops stationed in Rojava, purely defensively, until local militas are able to take over the situation

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then pull out

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what was the conclusion of that?

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did they conclude that it happened?

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I mean, the corpses kinda speak

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the court

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what did it conclude

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IIRC, in this incident, the guy said that "If what he did was a crime, then most soldiers would be prosecuted"
lemme find it

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you're also

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presuming the court is infallible

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it's better to presume you're infallible

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and not, y'know, biased in favor of the soldiers with guns fighting for lobbied oil interests

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So you're saying that if a nation doesn't recognize its own war crimes

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everything is ok?

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you should be used at the objective beacon then

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I'm telling you that you don't have proof that it happened

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and even if it did

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it's a rogue action

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not one the military ordered

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or approved of

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iraq was a clusterfuck

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"Investigators examining the buildings where the killings took place found there was no evidence of a firefight.

Instead they are understood to have concluded that the killings were "methodical in nature" and occurred as the unit conducted a sweep through a town lasting three to five hours.

Among the dead were five men standing near a taxi at a checkpoint and killings inside at least two homes that included women and children, unnamed officials were quoted as saying."

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because entire villages were violent toward the US soldiers

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So shooting unarmed civilians who didn't resist

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or put up a fight

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is ok

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'cuz maybe they didn't like the men with guns

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that didn't happen

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sweeping through their town

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eh, I'll just not waste my time

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they can not like it as much as they want

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if a soldier cannot get around killing that person

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then he's killed

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america is justified in valueing lives of americans over non-americans

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if it didn't, there would be no american lives to value

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>implying america cares about the lives of american

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your empire is the weirdest empire the sun has ever shine upon

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even the Aztec or the Carthaginian with all their human sacrifice were less evil

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Are you trolling

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nope I'm serious

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Lol k

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if america really cared about its citizen you'll already have your wall funded 10 times by now

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>Or perhaps teachers don’t get payed much and naturally lean left
The education system filter people to fit in their value system, which is leftism, and the administration police any non-leftist who manage to go through.

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i used to be a teacher

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and i used to get bitched at for teaching history outside of "certain guidelines"

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naturally i would continue to do so and only go "by the book" when i was being observed

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my students always scored higher on the standardized tests here in NJ

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at least for history which is what i was teaching for half the year

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my students were in 11th grade and sure they are High School students but at least when they left my classes they actually learned something instead of just regurgitating crap

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very happy to being back in the business world, teachers unions and all the faculty above the principal level were annoying AF

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they dont know the first thing about teaching in a real classroom environment

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/end rant

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The most right would be a SS soldier I think

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Fascism is just authoritarian centrism

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What the fuck

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Big rekt

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>calls an ancient civilization that cultivated rape, slavery and ritual blood sacriface less evil than a democratic country

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Nice try

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Visit africa fagg

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`if america really cared about its citizen you'll already have your wall funded 10 times by now
>Or perhaps teachers don’t get payed much and naturally lean left
The education system filter people to fit in their value system, which is leftism, and the administration police any non-leftist who manage to go through.`

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@^^^ America affords its citizens more right than most nations, if not all. Teachers lean left because there is self selection involved that's biased towards lefties and teachers' colleges teach leftist nonsense.

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many teachers just straight up fucking suck

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And let's be honest

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because morons go into teaching

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the job isn't that hard, aside from math and science

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that's the general rule

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Depends on the subject, but generally yes

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for all subjects

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I would say past a certain grade, teaching science and math can be difficult, that is, if you teach it well

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America can grant every rights they want to its citizens, doesn't mean that they care about them either

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a lot just read off of fucking power points

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and wonder why they don't get paid much

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@^^^ is right that it's to do with pay. But she can't state that teachers are underpaid in any absolute sense. What is true is that once tech and finance blew up, good stem students all went there, as the salaries there skyrocketted.

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@^^^ what qualifies as caring?

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starting with not trying to attempt an ethnic replacement of the historic population

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what you mean is that democrats import votes

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no one is trying to replace whites

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the result is the same

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it is

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tell me the countries where the gov genuinely cares and wouldn't do that to win

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win what? Power only cares about power

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win elections

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tell me where it wouldn't happen

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I'd probably do the same

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then shut up

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just to fuck with whities

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why are you wasting our time if there isn't a country which cares more

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I don't get it, I should be here only if there is a country who care more about what? their people? power? that doesn't make sense, and that has nothing to do with why I should, or shouldn't be here

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it's to do with you shutting up about the US being worse than everyone

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did I said that the US is worse than everyone? can't remember, though I do consider the American continent to be the most revulse continent in existence, and utterly demonic

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`>implying america cares about the lives of american
your empire is the weirdest empire the sun has ever shine upon
even the Aztec or the Carthaginian with all their human sacrifice were less evil`

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'though I do consider the American continent to be the most revulse continent in existence, and utterly demonic' - from how you've justified it , seems utterly arbitrary

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haha, the American empire does function in a very strange way, part of it come from the democratic mythos

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I don't care if you rolled some dice and it fell on america

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the mere fact that you hate america doesn't bother me

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don't hate american either, american aren't the empire

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We need socialism

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You don't need more than 50k to survive and to be happy

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Hate rich

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We need capitalism
You need the freedom to improve your life and others through new and better business
Don't hate rich

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We need anarchism.

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Get whatever you want via violence, get rich, and then migrant to a civilized country.

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102% best solution.

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(When you can't get a joke)

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((When you can't get a joke))

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(((When you can't get a joke)))

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(When you can't get a joke)

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(When you can't get a joke)

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(When you can't get a joke)

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People only hate rich people due to envy

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nah, I hate 'em 'cuz of their excess while others live in poverty

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I'd be happy with a nice, small homestead out in the middle of nowhere, I don't even want that much wealth

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or power

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Why would you hate them for living lavishly?
If you work your butt off every day and earn enough money for your family and yourself to live a good life why should bums who contribute nothing live a good life off of your money?
Rich people sometimes are scummy and genuinely bad people but you shouldn't hate all rich people because they enjoy the money which they worked for.

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Who hates rich people?

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Imma shove a few dollars into their ass.

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@Alice Redacted My grandfather was coming from an average family, worked so hard, and managed to become a billionaire, being a NASA security member. My grandmother coming from a richer family, survived because of her heritage. My mother is a cardiologist, currently rich, who archieved to become rich through hard work, and insistence. My father also survives because of his heritage. As you can see, my mother and my grandfather were clever people, who grabbbed the opportunity into their own hands, before it just fades away. They were average, and normal people.

The fact that there are people that live in poverty, doesn't mean that those who had an opportunity, must leave it, and love in poverty too, or be average. That wouldn't even help the nation's economy, nor even its reputation around the globe.

I don't know in which communist/socialist world you are currently living in, but you'd better get here, in our world, with the rest of the people, instead of dreaming a Socialist Utopia.

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From an average man, my grandfather became a billionaire.

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Just because he grabbed the opportunity which was given to him.

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The fact that there are many uncivilised swines out there, who never wanted to work, who had an opportunity and left it because they were cowards, will not prevent anybody, and I mean *anybody* from creating their own careers.

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Your name also reminds me of Anarchism, which is worrying me about your mental state.

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@Koninos >(((worked hard)))

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more like extorted hard

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Unless you're not a Jew

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in that case, good for you

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Eh, true

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Materialism is immoral.

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how rich are they, @Koninos ?

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@eileen tru but having a palace isn't materialist

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No, in certain scenarios, it's spiritual.

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So they worked 1/35th as hard as the entire population of Burkina Faso

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For a leader it's obviously to show your nation's power

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That's why they're rich

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if not it's to be happy with where you live

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And I agree with that, because I am a diehard Chauvinist.

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He worked as hard as 242 857 people

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Right, @Koninos ?

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That's pretty damn impressive ngl

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@Alice Redacted stfu commie

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what kind of commie

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I've been refuted

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That's not how it works

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someone making over a billion dollars

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Are you a Maoist? The Chinese cartoon gives it away. ~~joking~~

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If they earned it rightfully, it's rightfully theirs

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Right, but how do you define "rightfully earned"

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And you're presuming...

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It's through merit

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don't get me wrong

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Capitalism works

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but only on paper

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People say the same about Communism.

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But Capitalism was made for a certain kind of people, for a certain kind of people.

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If you get me.

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Stop being retarded pls @Alice Redacted I'm not a Capitalism

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Corporatism is superior

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rightfully means he earned it

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Fucks sake, a lolbertarian.

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friendly reminder

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Psychopathy and sociopathy

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something like that

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more prevalent in upper management

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He didn't extort

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He didn't (((scheme)))

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