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West Bank and Gaza
this has to be bait
is Palistin a country?
No
Why?
Because It never was
it probably is but it's fun nonetheless @Asuka
@Sgt.JuiceBox It was and continues to be a nation state, recognized by multiple countries
Theres a diffrence Bettwen Palistine Country and Palistine Territorys
Its a territory
no there isnt
part of Israel
A country is defined by it's territories in which it's law is sovereign
Resolution 181 says Palestine is a country
Palestinian Government is sovereeign within the West Bank and Gaza, israel is not
therefore palestine axiomatically and objectively exists
It says "west bank"
Palestine is a country
Not Palistine
West Bank is Palestine
Even google maps says its israel
@Sgt.JuiceBox your OWN screenshot said it's a sovereign state
ITS RIGHT THERE
So is Gaza Strip
it says in the description Palestine is a de jure sovereign state in Western Asia
Whats the capital of Palistine?
they have two
Palestine is a country lmao
de jure, Jerusalem. De facto: Ramallah (administrative center)
De facto capital - Ramallah
De Jure Capital - Jerusalem (disputed with israel)
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cmon bro i got all night
this is easy stuff
itโs easy
no answer
lmao
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tfw 3/4 of the world recognize palestine
Hmmmmmmmmmmm
USA?
lmao this dude
Whats the "Palistine: Currancy?
WHo was the first president of "Palistine"?
a simple google search would give you the answers my dude
ok serach it
i mean, some countries don't even have their own currency. El Salvador uses the USD
no you search it, you're the one asking @Sgt.JuiceBox
No u
ok Fine
IT SAYS ISRAEL
see? wasnt hard
??????
where
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Jordanian dinar
Today, the Israeli new shekel and Jordanian dinar are the currencies in use in the Palestinian territories. The shekel is the main currency used in Gaza and the primary currency for retail transactions in the West Bank.
yeah both currencies are accepted in palestine
whats the big deal
But Palestine is not a country
not every country even has the own currency smh
Whats its "Counstitution"
It doesnt have one
but palestine has which goes agaisnt his argument
palestine is more sovereign than my country just off of that fact
yeah, but he's using bad stuff to judge if something is a nation
lmao
ye
Find me "The Counstutuion of Palistine"
It doesnt have one
Why?
@Sgt.JuiceBox bro, go study what makes a state, sovereign
it has one you T A R D
the UK doesnt have a constitution either
FIND IT
guess they dont exist
right?
literally just look up Palestine Constitution
ok send it to me
stop being a nignog and look it up yourself
woah
lookie that
The "Leader" not the "President"
When did Palistine get its independence
WAIT
@Sgt.JuiceBox i'll throw you a bone: any country that is able to enforce their own laws within their borders, have a standing army, produce their own currency and have international relations with other nations is a sovereign state
It never did
it literally did though
ok find it
If you say it does its up to u to find it
it is an independent state right now
Did you actually use Google Maps to say Palestine isn't a country? Google Maps changes depending upon what country you're in. If you were in any of those countries that recognizes Palestine, it'd be on Google Maps
right in this moment
lmao
@Similar Scowl ok find it
he's in america, which shows both countries with disputed territory @Diadochi
Is Quam a Country?
It has its own flag
But WAIT
its a US territory
Is Palisten a country?
Its has its own flag
But WAIT
Its an Israel Tarritory
Just going to assume he's 12 or a troll
is this guy a 9 year old PragerU watcher
@Sgt.JuiceBox
Is country X sovereign?
To know if it is it must have these conditions:
1. is able to enforce their own laws within their borders
2. have a standing army
3 . print their own currency
4. have international relations with other nations
If country X is able to match all 4 requirements, then congratulations!!! It's a sovereign state!!!
its not hard
@Similar Scowl "Palistine" doent use "Palistine courency"
it does ๐
~~3~~
Seacrh its currency
you already did ๐
are we done?
OOOOOOOOFFF
i guess I lost
well GG
bye
"__was__ the currency of Palestine"
well you havent demonstrated you didnt lose @Sgt.JuiceBox
inb4 leaves server
he went offline
pussy
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they use jordanian and israeli currency
`Is Palisten a country?
Its has its own flag`
hardly
they use the standard arab flag
`1. is able to enforce their own laws within their borders` - If they could, there would be no West Bank settlements, unless you dispute that being their territory.
`2. have a standing army` - They don't have one. Gaza has a few armed foces. West Bank has another one. They're not one army.
`3 . print their own currency` - Jordanian Dinar isn't their own currency, neither is the Israeli shekel
`4. have international relations with other nations` - With how many? They certainly don't have relations with Israel.
They have international relations with many countries. They are involved in many supranational organizations and many countries recognize them. They DO have a standing army and security services. Their effectiveness is disputable, but that can be said of many nations. They do technically have a flag. A currency isnโt necessarily a requirement for being a state
`They have international relations with many countries.` - I'm happy for them. `They are involved in many supranational organizations and many countries recognize them.`- Not enough do. `They DO have a standing army and security services.` - What is their 'standing army' called? `Their effectiveness is disputable, but that can be said of many nations.` - Which nation has no control over its armed forces? `They do technically have a flag.` - Yeah, it's the Flag of the Arab Federation. `A currency isnโt necessarily a requirement for being a state`- Other guy said it was, but ok.
>70% of nations recognize Palestine
NOT ENOUGH
Btw look up Palestinian Security Services smh not that hard
>a majority of all countries recognize Palestine
>Asuka never said they didn't have control over the armed forces
>if sovereign currency was a qualifier for a country, then several countries in multiple continents wouldn't be considered countries, including: El Salvador, Ecuador, Zimbabwe, a majority of the EU, etc.
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Not enough to vote them fully in. And the Palestinian Security Forces aren't their army. They have no army. Who's in charge of the PSF? I know the answer, but I wanna play this out.
The general assembly recognizes them due to the Partition Plan, the US just doesnโt recognize them because (((reasons))) and their allies follow smh
just say it's the jews
And if you know Iโm not gonna waste my time. Itโs on the Wikipedia page
I don't care
"palestine" isn't a full member state
you can blame the jews for it
doesn't change reality
Abbas is in charge of the PSF
and Abbas can't do shit in Gaza
they're an inflated police force
quick question - what would you guys support, Palestine or restored Kingdom of Jerusalem?
which army would defend "Palestine" from an invasion?
neither
Israel
UN membership doesnโt determine if a country is recognizable
there is one army responsible for defending the gazan and the west bank borders
what's that army called?
habibi
it's the IDF
palestine's status as a soveirgn state is only recognized by individual countries
PSF would defend Palestine, I just said itโs effectiveness is disputable. But the fact it exists means it can defend and enforce sovereignty
no, it wouldn't
if an invasion happened
Abbas would hop on the phone
and call up Bibi
You could say that about a bunch of other weak countries tho
Article XII of the Oslo II Accord states:
โณIn order to guarantee public order and internal security for the Palestinians of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, the [Palestinian] Council shall establish a strong police force as set out in Article XIV below. Israel shall continue to carry the responsibility for defense against external threats, including the responsibility for protecting the Egyptian and Jordanian borders, and for defense against external threats from the sea and from the air, as well as the responsibility for overall security of Israelis and Settlements, for the purpose of safeguarding their internal security and public order, and will have all the powers to take the steps necessary to meet this responsibility.โณ
Luxembourgโs gets invaded, itโs probably gonna call France
except it's not legally bound to call France
like "palestine" is
But that wouldnโt inherently not make it a nation though
I don't have to disqualify it to be a nation
you have to qualify it as one
and according to that dude's definition
it's not doing well
That dude isnโt 100% right
sounds like he's close to being 100% wrong then
if palestine wants to be a soveirgn nation
it needs to negotiate with Israel
They make laws for their area and have international recognition from a majority of the world
that's not how it works.
when going by individual recognition
it's a state only within the context of its relationship with that country
if it wants to be a soveirgn state
it needs to be voted in like Israel
and have control over its borders
and it'll only get that
once it negotiates with Israel
The UN says that they donโt have the authority to recognize a state or government
they had no issue when it came to Israel
or any other mid eastern state created at that time
if the legal opinion has since changed
then it now goes by individual bilateral basis
Being voted in has nothing to do with being a state itself. The UN is independent of the existence of states
in which case, it's only a soveirgn nation
once Israel recognizes it
which brings it back to the original conclusion
that it needs to negotiate with Israel
your guys' argument is that the UN has no role here
and that Israel should recognize it because some other country does
which is a new principle
I can as easily argue that those nations shouldn't recognize Palestine because Israel doesn't
Palestine is a state if we use the definition of wikipedia, which I would agree with
"In international law, a sovereign state (or sovereign country) is a nonphysical juridical entity that is represented by one centralized government that has sovereignty over a geographic area. International law defines sovereign states as having a permanent population, defined territory, one government, and the capacity to enter into relations with other sovereign states.[1] It is also normally understood that a sovereign state is neither dependent on nor subjected to any other power or state.[2]"
it doesn't fit any of it
` juridical entity` - can Abbas try Gazan war criminals?
`that is represented by one centralized government that has sovereignty over a geographic area.` - When was the last time Abbas has called off Gazan missiles ?
`as having a permanent population` - this isn't true according even the Palestinians, with them claiming ever growing nth generation refugees
nor is true, because they claim the population of Israeli Arabs
` defined territory` - only if you forget about the West Bank and the northern territory contested between Israel, Syria and Palestine
` one government` - again, this exists in name only. Gaza and West Bank are ran seperately
`and the capacity to enter into relations with other sovereign states.` - if Abbas chose to negotiate with Israel, Gaza would not follow
`It is also normally understood that a sovereign state is neither dependent on nor subjected to any other power or state` - Is this one not obvious?
did you bother reading it ?
the fact that it doesn't satisfy the last item is clear to everyone from Bibi to Hezbollah
the point the other guy was making was that palestine didnt even exist
I'll agree with you that they are barely a country given their situation, but in international relations recognizing a country is enough to make a country legitimate, at least in a bilateral basis.
the point about them being able to enforce their laws is still true, they cant really do much to stop what israel is doing, but they still enforce other laws they have, and thats the point. Sovereignty isn't a binary thing. No country in the EU is 100% sovereign
for example
having a few armed forces can be considered an army
the point about the currency isn't very important either. it's probably the most dispensable requirement of sovereignty out of all of them. Using the EU as an example again: No Country prints their own money, the ECB does, and i have no idea where it is located, probably brussels
and they have international relations with the majority of the world, as the wiki page demonstrated
Thoughts on atomwaffen
Guys who were semi-retarded, then got infiltrated, then went full retard
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lmao
full retard from the start tbh
Now they don't even have a clear ideology. They cut themselves over pictures of Stalin with a pentagram and Hitler. Nazbol Statanists ftw
Nazbol gang
>AWD
<:dynoSuccess:314691591484866560> ***Pelagius#8735 has been warned., rule 1***
welp, point was: what I said above are in literal videos ^
atomwaffen is a gayboi cult
It's really only like that because they were infiltrated by O9A and Noctulians
which, I didn't see the connection at first, but looking into that now makes sense that an infamous AWD member became Muslim. The alleged founder of O9A became a Muslim
O9A
Dear God those people
09A?
@GoyimHunter1967 Order of 9 Angels
satanic cult
ah
that sounds fun
i hate them the most
since ive met one of them irl
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