sorry

no, my bad

I was reading that

you ignored the part where daytime stops, wherein race would be visible, was higher for minority groups

whilst night time stops, wherein race would be difficult to discern, was more equal

citation please

also, nice anecdote

I can tell which race someone is in dark or in light

yes

you also have a harder time picking out what their car looks like

okay, ehre ya go

https://www.ctnewsjunkie.com/archives/entry/minority_drivers_less_likely_to_be_pulled_over_after_dark/

*here

>ctnewsjunkie

sounds credible

go ahead andtrack down the source, then

No linked sources

It's not my job to find a source backing up your claim, you are responsible for providing the evidence.

What the fuck m8

https://ccrjustice.org/sites/default/files/attach/2015/08/the-human-impact-report.pdf

that's the actual report, btw

ah, no

my bad

yes, yes it was the wrong report

that's about discrimination in stop and frisk

https://ctmirror.org/2014/09/11/connecticut-takes-a-deep-look-at-racial-profiling-in-traffic-stops/

there's a DL link to the full report in that, though

but yeh

as I mentioned

I've got to go

My limited entertainment from this is gone

and I've got a chem lab writeup to complete in a few hours

so

bye

“It is important that these results be viewed as the starting point of a dialogue and not as conclusive evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the officer,”
The report itself says the evidence brought forth isnt conclusive, nor absolute evidence that it is racial bias, because they didnt take into account all variables.

"While the results are worth noting, it should be taken into account the lack of visibility of race also is combined with the lack of visibility of driver error, leading to higher rates of pull overs on minorities, who's driving style is noticeably different to that of whites, which opens the possibility of a police officer making mistakes"
self evident

@Alice Redacted

>im going to post "evidence" and then leave so im automatically right because i wont respond to their counter argument

oh my godddd

fine

last time i'm coming back

just don't fukken @ me

in the former case,it's talking about subconscious bias presumably

Jesus fuck, the subconscious bias bullshit.

haha, yes

What is the point in even talking about it

if I'm not aware of my bias then how will I act out on it

IF ITS SUBCONCIOUS

the fact that it still influences opinions?

how

You do act upon it, you're just unaware you act upon it

that's the thing

That's utter bullshit

wrong

what Anon said

SubCon bias has been debunked so hard, harder than the wage gap

or

"Implicit bias"

my bad

I mean, the wage gap is an example of implicit bias

Implicit Bias *is* SubCOn

Women, in a variety of fields, are less likely to be considered for promotions

Im convinced women *should* earn less, change my mind

Did you take into account hmm:

Hours worked

having a feminine name often leads to people being less likely to favor promotion

Vacations taken

Boldness

It was done in settings

Ambition

with controls over said things

anon

No idiot is just going to make a test without any constants

let me refer you to something, give me a minute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NEqlfWSOrQ

yeahhhh

I'm not watching a video, already short on time

as I said like 5 minutes ago

I do need to leave

I'll be back later tonight

or tomorrow, maybe

who knows

whenever I feel like coming back

we can continue then

Or you can never come back, if you do choose to come back, leave your *implicit bias* behind

You have an implicit bias against facts u are bigoted

"My limited entertainment from this is gone"
Well it seems they weren't being too serious about this

When, long ago, the gods created Earth
in Jove's fair image. Man was shaped at birth.
The beasts for lesser parts were next designed;
Yet were they too remote from humankind.
To fill the gap, and join the rest of man,
Th'Olympian host conceiv'd a clever plan.
A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure,
Filled it with vice, and called the thing a Nigger.
- H.P. Lovecraft

oof

If me and a man are doing equal work and performing at the same level with no variants I expect equal pay and treatment, but that’s not the world we live in and paying one person more just to “equal out the wage” is stupid.

It's almost *never* the case that they are doing the exact equal work

^

And there’s nothing the federal government could do even if it were an issue on a huge scale

Without impeding too much on other things

Then I hear

Muh equity

Equality is a myth

Equity=fairness right?

I mean

I'm not that serious about it

what I said is what I believe, but I'm not, y'know

devoted to some argument on the internet

also, the thing is

Equity is a component of justice, isn't it?

regarding discrimination/unequal pay...

a lot of that "unequal pay" comes from women being passed up for promotions, even in equal situations

as blind studies with traditionally masculine/traditionally feminine names on the same resume have shown

What do you think about this -
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-science-gender-idUSKBN0N421420150413?irpc=932

I haven’t looked at the story yet^
But even if the test was good and the info is right one industry isn’t enough to say anything is a widespread issue

so what I think of it is that it’s wrong and the women shouldn’t be preferred to male applicants

The point is that to me, it looks like you are trying to use state or societal power to control what normally people do, for something of which there will always be sparse evidence. It is neither prudent nor just.

ah

I was going off of the 2012 study

this is stem, so I'd presume that due to efforts to get more women into stem as of late

that there'd be more of a preference to fill in that discrepancy

But don't you think that if bias can easily be turned opposite, it might be that there is no bias at all?

8 But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers. 9 And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. 10 Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ.

Just btfoed all catholics

It is referring to the propensity for rabbis to perpetuate contradictory doctrines as teachers. If we took this literally and completely ignored context we should forbid all use of the word father, ignore the material as an analogy for the spiritual, and reject the fourth commandment.

Protfags shallow understanding of theology blows up in their face once again.

The Catholic Church as a preserver of tradition and scripture fulfills that passage, whereas Protestant denominations do the exact opposite.

To quote a great man, sad!

I recommend reading Mark 7:9-13 by the way.

Or maybe reading the Bible at all.

Myriad examples to contradict call no man father as a literal statement.

If you cherrypicked scripture all day you could come up with plenty of incorrect conclusions, like the rabbi. 😎

Wow, that’s a lot of sheer stupidity to unpack there, but I have a diplomatic appointment

I’ll be back to pick apart that utter tripe later @εïз irma εïз

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Alright but you'd be flatly wrong.

Otter is the JIDF commander

You have not only displayed poor understanding of Jewish theology but also of your own religion

It's not about Jewish theology.

You claimed rabbis contradict themselves

It's about Christ rejecting subjective interpretations of God and arrogance of those that claim to.

The rabbi is an example.

You have no understanding of how Jewish scriptural interpretation works

Just like with the Civil War issue you're painfully ignorant here.

And the Catholic Church is one of the most hypocritical

Gonna have to pass on another autistic shitfest. Sorry.

Look I don’t have time for this right now

I’ll be back later because you are so fucking dumb and arrogant it hurts my head

Ok. Bye.

I would beat you senseless with a broom handle

Ok.

Fact is, you can disprove me about Jewish theology all you want. I'm quite ignorant about Jewish theology. This is in reference to Christ using rabbis as an example. This is about what Christ said. You're free to educate me on Jewish theology plenty, but that's not what's being discussed at all.

Adios. 🤠

It doesn’t matter what Christ said when the Catholic Church is one of the biggest violators of that precept

Imbecile

Don't attempt to address the original argument at all. That's fine.

This is why I think you're a waste of time.

Fr broski, cya. 🤠

@Alice Redacted women had a higher participation rate in comp sci in the 70s than now

@εïз irma εïз you dumb whore

I told you I would address it seriously later

stop being such a smarmy little cunt

You won't get anywhere avoiding saying anything of substance and insulting me for the millionth time. It's getting old bud.

I feel like you live to talk to me on Discord. It's all you do here almost.

Within seconds of me posting the first thing all day you had your ping ready.

It's flattering, but no thanks.

If you want to not be a troll I'm happy to talk to you.

*It is referring to the propensity for rabbis to perpetuate contradictory doctrines as teachers.*

**Incorrect. Jesus had an issue with PHARISEES not all rabbis. This is exactly why CONTEXT is important as you have said. **

*If we took this literally and completely ignored context we should forbid all use of the word father, ignore the material as an analogy for the spiritual, and reject the fourth commandment.*

**Mostly makes sense, though it reveals your scatterbrained thoughts. I am not sure why you picked the fourth commandment in particular and not all of them?**

*Protfags shallow understanding of theology blows up in their face once again.
The Catholic Church as a preserver of tradition and scripture fulfills that passage, whereas Protestant denominations do the exact opposite.*

**The Catholic Church has not been a preserver of tradition. We can talk about the obvious example of Vatican II. We could go back further even and talk about the Council of Nicea. We could talk about the Gnostic Texts, and the vast differences between early Christianity and Catholicized Christianity. Furthermore, certain Protestant denominations arose to fulfil a more Christ-centred worship instead of the overtly political institution the Church had become during that day and age. Do we need to bring up indulgences for one?**

**Now, that I have gotten the easy critiques out of the way. Let's dig deeper into the passage. The Catholic Church take many liberties in interpreting scripture becoming the a simulacra of the Pharisees that Christ is condemning in this passage. If we look at the Papal decrees over the centuries this should be quite evident to even the casual observer. **

*To quote a great man, sad!
I recommend reading Mark 7:9-13 by the way.
Or maybe reading the Bible at all.
Myriad examples to contradict call no man father as a literal statement.*

**Your pedantic arrogance is on full display here. He obviously was making a joke which you took literally. **

*If you cherrypicked scripture all day you could come up with plenty of incorrect conclusions, like the rabbi*
**Let's use the term Pharisee here, and hopefully agree to use it. Otherwise I will have to break down how Judaism interprets scripture and how this accusation of "cherry-picking" is absolutely false. I would like to see you state that you misspoke here, because otherwise I will take this as an attack on the Jewish religion from an ignorant vapid preening little shiksa**

@εïз irma εïз

I said I would address you seriously, later. Here you go.

Anon is a known protfag. Even if he was joking his point was serious.

And yet again you show you are completely ignorant as to what pedantism is.

Very nice, Irma.

You totally ignored the meat of my critiques

Fourth commandment is honor thy father.

I'll wait for you to address them.

wrong it's honor the sabbath.

I don't know, most of them look like noncritiques.

you do not even know the 10 commandments

pathetic.

The same "hmmMMmm not quite right according to what I want you to have meant" you contrive for me.

Catholics regard it as the fourth commandment. I believe Protestants regard it as the fifth.

It's in the fucking Torah

Again, you are ignorant and limited to whatever cursory knowledge you managed to gain from a Google search.

You are so utterly fake and disgusting.

Alright. You tried. 🤷

No, cunt.

Address my critiques

Stop playing this fucking game whenever anyone challenges you.

Most of them are completely contrived though.

They are not contrived what-so-ever

Everything you fucking say is contrived

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I've had about enough of this bitch using ad homs to weasel out of debates

she needs to be punished

That's exactly what I'm doing right now.

@Deleted User Don't tag staff plx

@Deleted User kill yourself

rip

Why do you get so heated?

Do not let this bitch fucking play the slippery eel

because you are a disgusting human being

You prance around arrogantly and cower away whenever anyone challenges you

You are Dunning Kruger effect personified

Yes, you are smarter than the average person

but you are not nearly as smart as you think

Ok.

Ok.

That's what you always fucking say when you do not want to give a clear response.

You are a fucking weasel.

I give the amount of effort to your posts that they deserve.

You are here to pad your fragile ego

LOL

Post better and I'll respond better.

I gave VERY CLEAR CRITIQUES

the council of Nicea is something Catholics love to weasel away from

There's plenty to unpack in the larger two paragraphs

so fucking acknowledge it now

I'm sick of you smug little attitude

I bet you are a fat cunt

Yeah, but that's unrelated to the passage and the original argument.

IT IS NOT UNRELATED

IT'S A REFLECTION OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH BEING WORTHY OF THOSE SAME CRITICISMS

YOU STUPID DENSE WHORE

I seriously would beat you senseless if I could

Same for the semantic argument of Pharisees. The meaning of the passage is clear from Jesus' standpoint.

Again, I don't get why you get so heated.

YOU USED THE WORD RABBI LIBERALLY

YOU NEVER MENTIONED PHARISEES

I HAD TO CORRECT YOU

STOP CORRECTING YOURSELF AD HOC

SPEAK MORE CLEARLY

Jesus used the word rabbi.

YOU STUPID CUNT

BUT THE CONTEXT IS PHARISEES

HE HAD NO ISSUES WITH SADDUCEES, ETC

Settle down.

No, I won't. You are so fucking dishonest EVERY FUCKING DAY IN HERE

I hardly think it's relevant, again, to the actual argument.

And I am the only one who calls you out on it

IT IS ABSOLUTELY RELEVANT

You are implying that Judaism holds contradictory beliefs

No, I'm referring to what Jesus said.

AND I CORRECTED WHO JESUS EXACTLY WAS REFERRING TO

BECAUSE YOU CANNOT SPEAK WITH CLARITY

How much do you weigh?

Caps lock isn't cruise control for cool.

THIS IS HOW MUCH YOU DISGUST ME

I AM ACTUALLY IN CAPS LOCK NOW

I don't see why my weight is relevant here. You love irrelevant tangents.

because only a fat ugly cunt would have such a shitty personality

Ok.

Ok.

Ok

Ok.