predatory loans/redlining/other practices -> poverty -> crime -> arrests -> poverty, repeat

I mean

to oversimplify, of course

there's a number of other factors in that, too

"like redlining, gentrification, predatory loaning, etc
"

Lmfao

I'm actually pretty germanic

and?

If you're gonna fukken use a dog-whistle to imply I'm a jew to discredit me

you're wrong

not that it even matters

herr comandant

eh, most people do

I mean, regardless

it's got an anti-semetic background

and is primarily used by anti-Semites, so

yeh

but good for you

so you think nationalist jews are a threat?

or rich

depending on how you're trying to define elitist

''racial demographics from when redlining and such were in effect still linger
predatory loans/redlining/other practices -> poverty -> crime -> arrests -> poverty, repeat''

black people not moving from other black people doesn't mean much. Predatory loans effect all races. Redlining happened in like the 30s. They are poor because they don't put effort into trying to get out of it

I mean, same, but I think all nationalists, and all the rich are threats, but okay

ah, yes

like I said, when they stop killing each other and try in life I might believe you

that is 1000% how money works

effort correlates with increased wealth, for sure

typically

y'know

jeff bezos

especially in a place like america

he just works [several thousand] times harder than the average worker

Okay, Huisca

To make money

or at least, enough money to rise above your social class

you general need

an education

which requires both wealth and a stable family background

two things deprived from African Americans

generally

due to, y'know

history

is that happening now

slavery, the failure of the freedmans bureau, ensuring african americans remained in poverty, a lack of civil rights, societal biases, and so on

not to mention predatory practices

also, predatory loans and such

especially affected african americans

stable family? please don't blame white people for black fathers abandoning the family

as they were incredibly poor

I'm referring to economic stability

@Alice Redacted Elitist = Ultra Rich, those in positions of power, promoting globalism and multiculturalism

also, that is a reason why parents occasionally abandon children

"multiculturalism", because other cultures are scary, unlike mine, which loves guns and violent sports

so you think that black people are trying

?

fuck the ultra rich, though

My culture isnt american @Alice Redacted

eh

Whatever

I'm in AMerica, I've heard people use that phrase in a derogatory way here

but yeah, globalism isn't really a "spooky" thing

Globalism is absolutely disgusting

Unless you're so insecure about your self identity that you base it solely upon what some old guys did ages ago

so all of these practices that happened a long time ago

still effect black people

"a long time" =/= less than 50 years

yes, that's a long time

Tradition is not the worship of ashes

and again

you're presuming

I'm not

that de facto discrimination

still isn't a thing

African American schools tend to receive less funding, for instance

@Alice Redacted Funding is based on preformance

and efforts to desegregate schools were met with fierce resistance

ah

That's why

how much do they try in school

so it's a cycle, you're saying?

I'll answer for you

they don't try

less funding -> poor performance -> less funding -> poor performance

yep, because that just want to remain in poverty

makes sense

y'know, sure, some people might have multiple jobs

most schools teach the core classes you need

and might be doing the best they can

but, y'know

not trying hard enough

most schools teach the core classes you need

they aren't doing the best they can

I see you haven't talked about crime

but I already know

what you're gonna say

@Alice Redacted thats not how that works

yes

''muh poverty''

yes it is.

also

we are, indirectly

talking about crime

crime is a symptom of poverty

Blacks have a cultural problem

It's on them

it correlates with poverty

Not on anyone else

To assume or claim that it's not black's own fault will just further dig their grave

culture arises from economic and social circumstances

yeah that's just being retarded

which blacks have generally been forced into

but sure

on their part

not really

Blacks need a cultural revolution of their own

to survive

da white man is being mean, I guess I'm being forced to rob and kill people

no

it's more

yes

that's what you're saying

"oh heck, I don't have much food, I can't pay rent, and my family is hungry"

"I need money some how - I need to take it from someone else"

pretty rare

now

I mean, this happens in white communities too

Blacks should've never been in america @Alice Redacted
Is this a statement supporting or against blacks?

mind you

you probably shouldn't have kids if you can't afford it either

it comes down to their own decisions

against, as it implies, to some degree, they shouldn't be allowed to willingly migrate here

My statement is in support of blacks, blacks were here because of the slave trade

however, if you're saying that they shouldn't have been taken on the slave trade

sure, that's for

well, no

that's just fucking for basic human decency, ngl

If the slave trade never happen, the percentage of blacks would be a hundreth of what it is now

it

it's not even really a question of race

just of human decency

Do you believe race is a social construct or biologically valid?

so Ice

what is your solution

ik ur talking to ice fairy, but..
ICE needs to be militarized

<:HyperLmao:459545665517780993>

I mean, the notion of "differences between race" is socially contrived, however, if you mean 'do people have different skin colors?', then sure, it's biological

mind you, it essentially stops and ends at skin colors

No, it dosen't.

not completely

not anything significant

There is evidence to support that the races of the world are not uniting, but legitmley dividing slowly into separate species.

iirc, minor differences in muscle mass

again, minor

like, negligible

And not any cognitive difference, really

or, if there is, negligible

I think the evolution of humans is going to go very slow

"“It is likely that human races are evolving away from each other,” says University of Utah anthropologist Henry Harpending, who coauthored a major paper on recent human evolution. “We are getting less alike, not merging into a single mixed humanity.”"

very very slow

eh

inbreeding now

everyone's able to fuck people from other countries

"“We aren’t the same as people even a thousand or two thousand years ago,” he says. “Almost every trait you look at is under strong genetic influence.”"

IQ is genetic

Not cultural/social

unless you're a complete retard, you have a use in society

Yea, low skilled labor for the blacks

well, IQ is shitty and discredited by and large by any credibly psychologist

other genetic factors seem kind of useless

also, people with mental disabilities can be useful

just in different settings

and medicine pretty much gets rid of natural selection

a more limited setting, I should say

@Alice Redacted Except most of the same people also agree that IQ is a better identifier of wether someone will be a criminal or not.

[Citation needed]

Also, race is a better indicator of crime than poverty.

I mean, I could see an argument for that, but mostly because IQ correlates to level of education and nutrition

race and poverty largely correlate, so

https://archive.fo/yKWA0

@Alice Redacted Race is more related to crime than poverty

I hate race talks

race is more than skin color, and racial categories capturr a fair bit of genetic variation

this is descriptive, not causal

it's like me saying...

"Whites are more violent, as there are more white mass shooters"

or...

@Alice Redacted
"Major Findings:

Police and the justice system are not biased against minorities."

IQ is the second best predictor of violent crime, and both of these are far better predictors than any socioeconomic metric

"Men are sexual harassers, as men are more likely to rape"

I'd challenge that

@Alice Redacted Nearly half of domestic violence is by the woman lmao

Sexual assault, not domestic violence

Crime Rates

Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic.

domestic violence doesn'tneed to be sexual assault

Interracial Crime

Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.
Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.

So

Gangs

Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.

Incarceration

Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139 to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39 million.
Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites. Hispanics are three times more likely.

shall we cast judgement against the violence of men?

we get it, doctor

again

this is *descriptive*, not revealing the causes...

merely stating things how they are

we can limit which race, but not which gender we surround ourselves with

"...followed by whites, and then Hispanics. Blacks have notably high crime rates. This pattern holds true for virtually all crime categories and for virtually all age groups."

also, sorry

the top claim looks kinda shoddy, ngl

there's nothing behidn that

which

no statistics, no data

about bias

I mean, iirc, drug offensive are more heavily prosecuted against minority groups, despite similar rates of usage

which is evidence against that, if anything

Ill find my source, excuse me

they don't use in similiar rates

that claim comes from shoddy surveys

or, if-adjusted-for, then

mybad

it could be entirely explained by something like that, maybe minorities lie about usage more

"There are far more black homicides perpetrated by blacks themselves than the police or Sanders’ “white supremacists” combined. According to FBI statistics there have been more than 2,400 black homicides every year from 2010-2015 and more than 2,200 of these homicides each year were perpetrated by black offenders. While blacks compose around 13 percent of the nation, they are consistently responsible for upward of 43 percent of all homicides nationally."
p1

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/18-examples-of-racism-in-criminal-legal-system_us_57f26bf0e4b095bd896a1476

huffpo is garbage, ngl

>huffingtonpost

LMFAO

but they link to a variety of sources

within their article

ill read anyways

it also reveals biases against the trans community, so that's fun

interesting

but yeah, huffpo is just like

the aggregate in that link

they do provide legitimate sources there

you tend to get tired of a group that commits the most violent crime

ah, so you're saying heavier group policing

@Alice Redacted
`Have you ever considered that a majority of the other issues are related to socio-economic differences`

You're a dumbass

and harsher punishments against said group as a whole

which, in turn, would, y'know

contribute to the cycle

We can look at people in similar a socio-economic status across races

the third point is interesting, because proportional to violent crime, whites are more likely to be victimized by police than blacks are when it comes to fatal shootings

I'm just

"A black man in Kansas City, 25 or younger, has a 28 percent chance of being stopped, while a similar white male has only a 12 percent chance."
Okay so the source they give for this itself admits that this does not take into consideration blacks score lower on driving tests, leading to more violations. Ironic.

"Once stopped, during traffic stops, 3 times as many Black and Hispanic drivers were searched as white drivers, "
Their source, the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics, also says that blacks are more likely to either resist arrest, or engage in deadly confrontation, which 100% justifies the use of searching.

"A recent report by Center for Policing Equity found that police are more likely to use force like Tasers, dogs, pepper spray and physical force against Black people than White people in making arrests."
Same argument for above.

"Black youth are twice as likely to be arrested for crimes in school as white kids, over 2.5 times as likely to be arrested for curfew violations as white kids..."
The statistical rate of blacks being in trouble more leads them to pay more attention to blacks, leading to more arrests, this is simple. My school has 2 black kids and both are extremely violent, try to start gangs, and are always misbehaving, the culture of the blacks is their main problem.

"Start with the fact that whites and blacks use and abuse drugs at about the same rates. This is proven by the 2013 National Survey on Drug Use and Health of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services."
Berkeley University in 2012, the apex of libtardedness, conducted a study and reported that blacks are more likely to engage in violent behavior to get these substances, and gangs having drug wars doesnt help this. Whites just go to a dealer covertly, get their shit and leave.
@Alice Redacted

going to leave

Nobody cares @Alice Redacted

@Alice Redacted read it before u leave

You don't care about being wrong

I've got better things to do

leaving is the ultimate sign of defeat

atleast come up with an excuse next time

"ive got chores"

oh