Wars being prosperity and wealth long term

To the winning side

Weapons manufacturing factories are quite good in my opinion.

Prussia won lots of wars

now it doesn't exist

The thousands of wars that happen in europe is a reason Europe is as advanced as it is now

Prussia exists via Germany

you lose one and they carve you up permanently

no

Prussia *is* germany

Prussia literally doesn't exist

it's owned by poland

It's a direct ancestor of germany

owned by poland

Prussia was german in identity

opposite

Prussia created the german identity

fact is though, you lose one war and your country is finished

look at Ottomans or Austro-Hungarians

It lives on in different forms

Turkey is the ottoman empire

It's literally directly from it

It was literally just renamed after the Greater Ottoman Empire collapsed

Sure, war can collapse nations or rise them.

But long term, for everyone, it is a net positive action.

@Deleted User

Depends if you've reached critical mass

China has done fine with no war since Korea

The Ottomans/austro-hungarians reached critical mass of having their base ethnic groups outnumbered by the dissident ones

By having economic policies akeen to war-time policies

Russia taking Belarus or ukraine is different because it's a small %

so they can actually hold it

Also large % of Belarusians/Ukrainians are loyal to Russia

Similar cultures

Same race

No they literally lived under russia for like 150 years

made up countries

i k

capital of Russia was Kiev Ukraine

Im Russian-Ukrainian myself

I'm just saying invading like

Poland would be an absolute failure

Poland is the new Germany

Also with Ukraine/Belarus Russia just funds insurgents

It's economy is growing on par and will soon overtake in rates against germany

War is useful, without it we wouldn't be here. We wouldn't have any of this land.

War is necessary to purge the weak

Not taking into account nuclear weapons

You can't attack a nation with nuclear weapons nor a country in a nuclear umbrella

No one would use nukes against a nuclear power

MAD policy

lol u wot

MAD works with land invasions too

oh you mean in a full invasion of the country

Ukraine wasn't in a nuclear umbrella and neither was Iraq/Afghanistan

then just invade everyone else

So yeah you could feasibly invade countries that aren't alligned with a nuclear power

But then those countries are quite worthless

Not necessarily

Non-Nuclear World War 3 would be nice tbh

What would there be for America to gain?

Technological advancement at an accelerated rate

Economic skyrocketing

Stronger sense of nationalism

good liveleak videos

In what scenario does America being at war with its economic interests overseas or having them damaged inadvertently make the economy "skyrocket"?

GDP only increases artificially during war because war-related industries are given financial incentive to expand dramatically. This wealth does not reach "the people", the economy as a whole doesn't benefit.

The USSR for example had their GDP expand rapidly during WWII but their economy was basically shredded.

And what technological advancement would happen in a world war that wouldn't happen in the petty police actions we have today? If anything it would be stifled because there would be less money to give to ambitious projects that are really just money sinkholes like the F-35.

At least I assume that's your reasoning, that war would drive innovation.

A world war does not benefit America at all given how interconnected the American economy is with the world. Globalization and interdependence through free trade is the single biggest factor by a long shot why there are no longer massive wars between countries anymore, because the benefit of gaining raw resources is far outstripped by diplomatic blowback and a restriction to traded resources.

America is definitely the biggest example of this.

tl;dr, saying America would benefit from a world war is completely ignorant.

And I can only assume that when Oscar ignorantly said the capital of Russia was Kiev, he was talking about the Kievan Rus' which was:
A) Scandinavian.
B) and the original capital was Novgorod, Kiev was the strategic capital.

The sheer ignorance here is a lot to take in. 😢

10/10 economics

*Apartheid Intensifies*

It's a fake quote so it belongs in <#463779195114225685>.

Got eeeem

@bimmler yeah why the fuck this in <#452955229227319306>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGEsN1v9cZA

dogecoin sucks

Guys trying to make money off a meme

>dogecoin

lmao

Ban shill.

<@&452955168099532800> delete this shit

^

shilling a product shouldn't be allowed on here

but why i dont think anyone gave a shit anyways
i deleted it

Delete it on principle.

**Mighty Supreme Chancellor Anon orders his loyal country to “delete thy shiteth” colorized**

@everyone Hm. The American Mid-term elections are coming up and the mainstream media started saying rather out of the blue that Alex Jones wants violence against the media by taking one-to-a-few word quotes out of context. They then started saying that Trump wants violence against the media for no reason. So if something bad happens now the mainstream media will pin it on conservatives and therefore the republicans, so they can get votes for the democrats.

Posted this in my server

Food for thought

The Slavs, over 400 million in the world. The most numerous of the white peoples in the world. No people in the world currently have more territory than the Slavs. More than 10% of the land in this world is Slavic. No people, no country, no Kingdom or empires could defeat the Slavs on their land. Sooner or later the enemy has always been defeated! The future of Europe is to the east. In the past our ancestors have united the Slavs have never been so powerful that when they formed in union. The wars, the problems between us, all are , because, of externals intervention of the Slavic world, or what are the traitors, who think of to enrich themselves at Debant of people , or to kill her people, by unnecessary wars, just for personal interests .. and not that of his people. We must not confuse people with his government, and one must take into account the influence of government on a people. Ibrahim ibn Jakub wrote ''the Slavs live in disunity if they would unite no one could defeat them''. PEACE BETWEEN THE SLAVS

I gotta get into Poland...

@L0GAN I'll take care ofit

I gave him a warning

https://youtu.be/WxRqrCmvVV8

Random reminder that a guy got fined £800 for making an edgy joke. He refused to pay it and he has 6 days I think to get an appeal (2nd appeal because his other appeals got denied from even happening) or he's going to jail for maybe months and he could actually get killed in jail. He could get killed in jail for making a joke. At least he's being a badass.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/JtI7qtpnGqSl/

Also, your regular reminder that democratic socialism is the best system commonly known

Explain

@Mahojo

Ok

In democratic socialism, the worker owns the means of production, and everyone votes on people's wages and basic decisions. (From here on is my specific vision) You have managers that are regularly overseen by a rotation of other workers, and the execs would get paid on how much they worked. If you're in a position where you sit on your ass all day through no fault of your own, you can join the workforce parttime to earn more money.

Do you expect people to be fair

doesn't sound terrible on a single business level but the transition wouldn't be worth it

That’s bad because some people don’t like fair

The current overlords will do whatever possible to make sure that doesn’t happen

It feels good knowing that you have people who are literally a paycheck or two away from homelessness working under you

exactly

business-level revolution isn't feasible

Do they deserve anything more than that

anything more than what?

^members

@Deleted User it’s so sad that someone would hurt you the way you’ve been hurt. You aren’t even pretty enough to be abused like that 😦 you deserve better

I am happy that daddy gives you money and makes your life so easy

You earned it for all the suffering

I’m glad you have discord to distract you from all the pain

You never need to heal because you Daddy will take care of his little girl forever

So touching

@Deleted User I hope you find more orbiters to make you feel better

I don’t think you have enough

@Mahojo this is coops

you can start and run a coop

or join one

they suck

@Deleted User Yes, that's what democratic socialism is. It's not some sort of radical ideology.

@Milk Yes. If you get 100 normal people in a room and get them to vote on how much someone should get paid, they will choose fairly

@21tagtmeiern Explain what you mean about transition

Thats a load of shit

If you put 100 normal americans its going to be vastly skewed

^

Haha no. They'd talk before the vote about how much they want them to get. Even if it is varied, there'll just be an average.

@Kosaki

there would be violence as workers try to change to democratic socialism

Why would there have to be violence?

@Mahojo A transformation into democratic socialism always requires violence

@Doctor Anon Why tho?

any ideological change that is outside the mainstream requires violence.

Not unless it becomes the mainstream LMAO

It never does

Dem Socialists only get a minority support and then intimidate or use the bandwagon effect to go ""mainstream""

Only a fringe number actually support it

yeah.

hence why violence is required to achieve its goals

however i don't know how you'll get a lot of people on board seeing as most american DemSocs are pretty anti-white and whites make up the largest demographic in the blue-collar working class.

@Mahojo my point is, we've already been shown coops are inferior to normal companies via the free market

If you decide you like the idea, you're free to open your own company or join an existing coop

If anything lowering operating costs like government regulation would proliferate all companies including coops anyways

I will @Deleted User but what I'm saying is that other people should too. Also, what does this sentence mean?, 'If anything lowering operating costs like government regulation would proliferate all companies including coops anyways'

lower taxes = more private enterprise = higher # of coops

ok

Dem Socialists- The Party that manages to be hated by both Rightists and Socialists, amazing!

UnionsTM

@iwantfun just saying the whole south Africa targeting white farmers thing isn’t quite true, South America seized land because they couldn’t afford it and then a white supremacy group faked a list that showed all the “white farms” being targeted despite he list including farms owned by black people, the south African gov is in the wrong for seizure, not for targeting whites

What but that is the point do you not understand contracts or the constitution

I've been wondering about this one thing for like a week or so

What makes dictatorship any different from other kinds of authoritarianism like say absolute monarchy?

(besides the obvious part of monarchy being passed by inheritance and stuff like that)

Literally only the monarchist part

absolute monarchy = dictator monarch

ok

https://www.rt.com/usa/435796-dccc-bots-software-propaganda/ - share. Democrats paying operatives to flag and shut down right wing accounts.

oof

@iwantfun I said they’re on the wrong for seizure, I just the whole targeting whites thing that’s been used as clickbait by the media is misinformation and is merely a stunt of a supremacy group

Who other than whites are they taking from lol

Literally the supposed "list of white farms being targeted" released by the supremacy group that all the news articles have been treating like its real had black owned farms on it.

theyve only actually seized land from one farm so far and thats because they wre too poor to buy the land from them

The dollar should be disposed of and replaced with grams

By grams

I mean the gold standard

So, what do I say to someone who says there is no real scientific way to define human "races"?

I mean, there ARE differences between groups of people

but is the problem steming from the vague definition of "race"?

or is there really a concrete way I can say someone is a different race from me?

No, there is no way to scientifically decide how many race there are and to which one someone belongs.

There's also no real need to define people based upon "race"

Considering that the differences are rather minute...

I agree

It is scientifically the same level as assigning subspecies to animals.

Don't understand this "there's no way to define it" argument.

We can and do subdivide species in this way.

@Alice Redacted Nearly all scientists worldwide agree on the validity of race, and there are not just "minute" differences.

Are there hour differences?

😎

show me proof of consensus

https://www.ln.edu.hk/philoso/staff/sesardic/Race.pdf

it starts by stating that many scholars think that race is not biological

but i'll keep reading

My aim in this paper was not to prove the biological reality of race

also

that's a quote

We know that certain diseases are more common in certain races, and when placed in the same environment (in this case, the same country), we can see height, size, and even socio-economic differences between the races that are reflected similarly in other countries (ex. U.S. Hispanics to Mestizos in Mexico).

Furthermore, we can also associate certain genes and their frequencies with certain races.

Knowing all of these things, and knowing that they are indisputable facts, it is unlikely that race is simply a social construct, and what is more likely, however, is that the push to downplay it as such is rooted in political and ideological motivations @21tagtmeiern

It's similar to the Soviets refusing to accept evolution because it did not conform to communism's traditional belief set

Oh my, Irma is a taxonomist now too

Is there anything she wont LARP as?

"We know that certain diseases are more common in certain races, and when placed in the same environment (in this case, the same country), we can see height, size, and even socio-economic differences between the races that are reflected similarly in other countries (ex. U.S. Hispanics to Mestizos in Mexico)."

Have you ever considered that a majority of the other issues are related to socio-economic differences

and that further, the socio-economic differences are artificial, enforced through racist practices and historical bias?

For instance, centuries of slavery, followed by poor civil rights, followed by discriminator societal attitudes

I mean, it's been less than 50 years since de jure segregation ended

there's still tons of de facto segregation, lingering actual segregation, and racial biases in society

"Furthermore, we can also associate certain genes and their frequencies with certain races."

Yes, but the same for dynasties, and other traits

there's also just a natural degree of variation between people

50 years ago

ah

my bad

yeah, slightly over 50 now

No you're right I'm just saying that it's been a while

not even a lifetime

there aren't many effects of it

blacks bring themselves down

you can't bring an entire class out of poverty in 50 years without plenty of help

not white people

no, they don't

Yes they don't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r6GBo_7UNc

just watch that

for instance

it's rather insightful

when black people stop killing each other and start trying in life then I might believe you

but again

50 years ago is the *de jure* end to segregation

we're ignoring malicious practices

yes

like redlining, gentrification, predatory loaning, etc

that ended years ago

eh, not entirely

eh, yes

There's still plenty of racial biases in society

and, I emphasized again, not really

there's plenty of instances of it occurring in recent times

as you'll see if you watch that video

you can't just say

"no"

and deny blatant facts

but... whatever

I didn't say that people weren't still racist

I implied that it wasn't widespread and directly said that the effects of the past were gone

~8 minutes - ~15 minutes

The effects aren't

racial demographics from when redlining and such were in effect still linger