why are u paying respects to johm mccain

he was a literal piece of shit

Imagine respecting him

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Yes, spit just like the people who spat on vietnam war vets

Which he actually was

I don't understand the hatred for John McCain.

Guess it's easy to be edgy if you've never had anyone close to you die.

Or if you're 15.

enough hating on 15 year olds jesus

They're execrable.

that's hate speech

Name: Fredo

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@εïз irma εïз let me court you

No thank you.

WAHHHHHHHHHH

STOP HATING A GLOBALIST

In February 2000, McCain said "As long as Saddam Hussein is in power, I am convinced that he will pose a threat to our security."[127]
McCain supported the 2003 invasion of Iraq and the U.S. decision to overthrow Saddam Hussein.[155]
In April 2004, McCain was asked by Peter G. Peterson what the United States should do if the "Iraqi government asks us to leave, even if we are unhappy about the security situation there?" McCain responded, "I think it's obvious that we would have to leave because – if it was an elected government of Iraq...."[156]
Following the invasion he criticized the Bush Administration's conduct of the occupation, and he later pushed for "significant policy changes" in the Iraq War.[157] He criticized The Pentagon on a number of occasions, most notably in December 2004, concerning low troop strength in Iraq,[158] and has called for a diversification of Iraqi national forces to better represent the multiple ethnic groups contained within the country.
In January 2005, McCain said that "one of our big problems has been the fact that many Iraqis resent American military presence. ... as soon as we can reduce our visibility as much as possible, the better I think it is going to be."[159]
In November 2005 McCain said in a speech that the U.S. government must do more to keep public support high for the war, and that more troops were needed, as well as a number of other changes in the U.S. approach to the war. He concluded his speech by saying that "America, Iraq and the world are better off with Saddam Hussein in prison rather than in power…and we must honor their sacrifice by seeing this mission through to victory."[160]

He supported the destruction of solid states and the replacement of them with complete anarchy that probably killed thousands purely for ZOG

No one cried when they died, no one should cry when McCain dies.

Sorry I just don't see anything virtuous or decent about jerking off to some old Republican dying of brain cancer.

Maybe I'm just not high IQ enough.

I mean...i respect his service in the military, but that doesn't make me like his political stance.
Oh well. I'm not going to mourn over his death, nor will i celebrate. It's a thing that happened, and with him goes his political policies.

^

I don't have to whip myself into a frenzy and be an autist when someone I disagree with dies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq3bwsedZ1s&feature=youtu.be

How can you not understand the hated for McCain?

What kind of run-of-the-mill GOP drone are you?

He’s the most toxic selling-out to lobbyists neo-con weasel the party ever had

@εïз irma εïз

Stop having opinions

They are not worth having

Back to the kitchen with you

I'm pretty sure I just said that I don't like his policies though.

-zexy furiously typing-

McCain dying is a great thing for the GOP

He was holding the party back with his undo influence

And MUH WAR HERO bullshit

what, are you an anti-war hippie?

I’m an imperialist

But that doesn’t mean fighting every war pushed for by a lobby

Good riddance to McCain

Why are you an imperialist?

>imperialism

Because we will never have a bipolar balance of powers

Imperialism causes a nation to collapse by becoming too diverse ethnically and culturally

Large powers will always try to outcompete each other

There needs to be a “top dog” so to speak

Lol muh diversity destroys empires argument

You dont need imperialism to do that though tf?

Is just historically inaccurate

Imperialism is expanding ones one borders, i think you mean interventionism

If you want to preserve culture don’t be American in the first place

America practices economic imperialism

It’s the same effect

interventionism

America is an imperialistic nation

Lol okay call it what you eat

Want

Only jealous cucks call it imperialism

But those are just propaganda buzzwords

1 minute the old lady wants me to sort laundry

>muh diversity destroys empires
>looks at Britain

Definitely seems to be the case.

Yes lets conquer areas with peoples diametrically opposed to us and expect everything to be fine and dandy

I won't deny America has definitely acted in a Imperialistic/Interventionist manner

If you really think these are wars of intervention then you are dimwit

They are proxy wars for economic benefit

And puppet leaders are installed

Imperialism is expanding one's own borders

Integrating that territory as a part of your nation

Lol you are going to play semantics with me after using a propaganda buzzword

As if there’s anything inventionist about American foreign policy

That’s dribble fed to sheep like you

And I’m not inherently against Americans actions

I just don’t try to put sprinkles on it to make it look prettier

Meh, imperialism is mega gay if you dont go isolationist prior

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@Deleted User cuck its late at night

obv no one is going to talk to a sperg rn

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radical centrist here

Okay

Centrism is soft Communism

Most things are communism nowadays

i love communism

@Obungus debunk communism in one sentence

It gay and dumb, debunked.

thank you

I'll debunk it with one four minute video

https://youtu.be/LP41IK91_qA

>being so far right that centrism is communism

just how?

https://youtu.be/3TXWWpQgwRw

I thought this was worth to share

The Civil War was about slavery to the south but didn't become an issue for the North until 1863.

Almost every state declared it the reason for secession.

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The move to make it a moralizing war was realpolitik on Lincoln's part. Him along with many other abolitionists believed the blacks were inferior but simply disagreed with their enslavement.

muh states rights is meme revisionism to turn slavery into a euphemism that distracts from itself

ik ik,but I thought it would be fun to see a confederate black guy

I think it's dumb for a black person to support the Confederacy directly.

it's hilarious tho because most of the time he focuses more on the South's ideals outside of the main reason it existed,which was slavery

Lost Cause weeb right there

Yeah he avoided the issue of slavery almost entirely.

Focused mainly on how bad the Union was it seemed like.

the Confederate flag is no longer aa symbol of racism

change my mind

the confederate flag is retarded, change my mind

the confederate flag is shit, change my mind

The confederate flag looks cool as h*ck

It's disgusting

It isn't though

That's just your authoritarian speaking

The design is just horrid

wrong

And it was never the official flag of the confederacy even

Then it wan't the confederate flag

It was the battle flag of Northern Virginia or something

The real flag is better

Nice flag you got there

wrong one retard

looks like an autist with ms paint made it in 5 minutes

The actual Stars and Bars looked too similar to the Union flag so most of the military created their own battle flags.

And eventually the Stars and Bars was ignored in favor of the Virginia battle flag.

It definitely wasn't the only flag with that design though.

@εïз irma εïз My dad believes in the "muh state's rights" meme

And no matter what evidence I show him against it, he won't accept it as proof because it's either "on the internet, so someone made it up" or if it's in print, then "it's just revisionist propaganda"

Have you shown him the original documents detailing the reasons for secession?

I've tried to

But the only way I can show them to him is by finding it online, and my dad is one of those proto-boomer types that thinks anything found on the internet is a work of fabrication when it doesn't confirm what he thinks @εïз irma εïз

You have to kill him.

find the original documents in a museum

20 min until livestream debate

Some old encyclopedias may have the information or college libary

@εïз irma εïз that’s patently incorrect revisionism

The issue of slavery was the root cause of the confederacy seceding from the union

Lincoln’s personal feelings dug up from his journals on the matter aside

Literally what I said.

You're losing your touch. You did the same thing yesterday.

👎

That’s not what you said at all

I’m re-reading your comments

You're free to rereread them.

The issue of slavery was central in political conversations of the day

You are claiming otherwise

It's exactly what I'm claiming though.

Why is it that everyday I have to correct another arrogant “hot take” from you

Again, you are free to rereread.

“The Civil War was about slavery to the south but didn't become an issue for the North until 1863.”

Just wrong on so many accounts

Hurr Durr

You literally pulled a date out of your ass to sound more intelligent

Lincoln did not want to risk losing support from vital border states like Maryland which were vital for supplying assaults into the South.

It wasn't until later that it became a moralizing issue.

That’s patently false

And you know it

That’s downright revisionism

1863 was the Emancipation Proclamation, so no. Not pulled out of my ass.

How are you so horribly ignorant?

Stop wasting my time. 🤷

And just please I take issue with nuance doesn’t mean that I am disregarding your words

The discussion on slavery began before that

One would argue it was an issue for the north years before the civil war

But you read excerpts from Lincoln’s journals

And came to this absurd conclusion that 1863 is the date that slavery becomes an issue for the north

It’s just wrong on so many levels

I'm talking about the context of war rhetoric.

Lovely backpedaling

The Civil War was about slavery to the south but didn't become an issue for the North until 1863.

It's easy to contrive your own meanings and strawman your way into sophistry and purple prose.

Again, stop wasting my time.

I have never read such a wildly inaccurate statement

Ok.

Is this how you always back out of critiques

I know what I meant and I'm agreeing with pretty much everything you're saying.

It seems that you don't know what I meant.

Perhaps on purpose.

Say someone is wasting your time and slander them as a sophist

I respectfully disengage m'lady.

Really the virtues of a scholar you are exhibiting here

Even your context makes it inaccurate

It is wrong on so many levels

This nightly ritual is getting tedious. Don't you have someone else to talk to?

Oh someone called out my historical revisionism and I’m going to call it tedious

No I've repeatedly said things to that effect, that you're tedious.

Stop posting peabrained statements in a public discord if you do not want to be corrected

I'll try to be better.

Go back to the kitchen where you belong if you are too sensitive for this

Adios. 🤠

Bye coward

I love how she pathologically “corrects” other people with misinformation and gets frustrated when people do it back to her

Imagine being this angry at your reflection

Her lack of self awareness is astounding

I wonder if she’s even capable of meta cognition

@εïз irma εïз please confirm if you are too pigheaded for self reflection

@here has anyone seen Irma self reflect? Can she pass a mirror test?

no

i have raped irma too many times for it to have brains

Pebble is transfluid

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@Deleted User She did say slavery was the cause of the war

“The Civil War was about slavery to the south but didn't become an issue for the North until 1863.”

She goes on to contradict herself

She cannot even form a coherent thought and acts like I misread her

The north declared the war so what was it @εïз irma εïз

Can you clarify the confused mess you posted?

And of course she won’t because she’s a coward

She cowers away in her kennel whenever I appear

Wait hold up am I just stupid

I didn’t know @εïз irma εïз was a girl

oh

She is

I don't make a point of it.

Impossible. We both know Girls on Discord are a myth.

Confederates fired first, secession started months before Lincoln took office, and there was no declaration of war as the Confederacy was not recognized legally by the Union or literally anyone else.

Sorry I didn't get your pings, I block you when I'm not talking to you for the reason that you ping so much.

^ggraph

Ooooof

The escalation of war was done by both sides. The Confederacy had seized territory claimed before the actual conflict at Sumpter.

But everyone knew war was coming.

The US civil war was politically caused by slavery, but most southern soldiers didn’t care about it

It was just seen as the natural order of things

Just like moth Northerners didn't care.

Exactly

Like I said earlier, it didn't even become an issue until 1863.

Ahahahahahaha

Ahahahahahaha

Lincoln said if he could preserve the Union with slavery he would

Lincoln didn't want to jeopardize support from vital border states like Maryland which had slaves.

It had been an issue for a long time standing

Both you have no idea what you are talking about

Like I said **politically** it was the main cause but most Union and Confederate troops didn’t care

Look at the songs of the war

Just regurgitating shit you read on /pol/

Only a few mention slavery

Nobody is suggesting that it wasnt an issue, just that it wasn't for the average person and wasn't made a political issue until 1863.

I’m taking more issue with Zexy

It definitely was an issue for the political elite of the South however.

Yes

Because she keeps pulling this date out of her ass

Ignoring that slavery had been a force of tension in congress for a long time