Roosh has character flaws but he's honest and admits them

Ill check it out

@deleted user x28748h2 pareto principle is what justifies capitalism entirely

I like RoK commentary but AoM has great info on skills and tools

Yeah RoK is almost always commentary now that I think of it

http://www.returnofkings.com/185291/4-reasons-that-make-austin-a-great-city-for-men-on-the-prowl This article is super degenerate. I'll stick with my Watered-Down Mormon friends at AoM

ArtOfManliness articles just operate under a pretense that there still exist a large enough amount of women with morals in the USA for their readership to all have mates where their advice would work

imo there are not enough suitable women for the entire readership of AoM to do this unless they're literally all turbochads

The article is literally about how to "pump and dump" as it calls it

Not about morals or family building

Its about mindless sex

@V-NAF_Aardist http://www.returnofkings.com/182637/women-are-destroying-the-lives-of-their-children-by-choosing-to-work

http://www.returnofkings.com/183136/planned-parenthood-tells-women-to-sleep-around-to-preserve-its-abortion-business

Ok, so a double narrative

RoK came out of the pick up artist movement but are transitioning into more red and black pilled themes

and how to find a wife that won't divorce rape you

AoM talks about things in a more purple pilled light I would say

both are useful and compliment each other

Roosh was originally a PUA and became a guy that tells most white men in the USA to get eastern european wives, asian dudes to get wives back home, etc. and to move outta the USA because the culture is shit

thats why I read both

AoM is non-political from what I can see. Just about how to be a traditional man, and what that means

Well yeah I'm saying there's no reward for being a traditional man in the USA

RoK operates under the PUA line of thought where there's a very specific way to act if you want to attract modern american women

and it's not BETTER for society if you act like some turbo alpha chad literally playing mind games on women

They're just honest about it

I unironically advocate getting wives from trad churches or overseas

thats your only hope nowadays

I have literally never seen an article on RoK that said you shouldn't get a tradwife

or shouldn't get a wife from overseas

in fact the major view there by writers is basically that american women are just mentally messed up and brainwashed to the point they're unsalvagable beyond fuck toys

I remember that paid article from the guy who runs one of those sites

ha yeah that was funny

gotta take that one with a grain of salt

oh yeah, but I was like this is straight forward

But apparently literal mail order wives have only a 20% divorce rate

Also mail order wives is retarded imo

like if you want some eastern european wife just take 6 months off and live in eastern europe

opposite from the studies done

its more like 80% success 20% divorce

Yeah I mixed the words up

where as regular women in the USA is 50 50

I thought it was more like 40% success 60% divroce

Yeah it's really fucking bad

either way the point stands

Also imagine if you included guys who just got a girl pregnant in that

I know so many who are divorced or separated

probably lowers it even though that's more important than marriage

at least once in their lives

Well yeah you were in the navy too

yep

happens so often

I have bad views of american marriage but the navy can't possibly make your views better

military divorce rate is atrocious

one army girl I know is about to be on her 3rd marriage

Most military guys who get married are absolute betas too funny enough

she is a complete cunt who is literally only good for being cum dump

like to fat single moms

at least the 4 years lads

from what I saw it was usually to high school sweathearts

both 18, dumb, young, and full of cum

Tbh though it's hilarious how plannedparanthood operates

Their little brown babies are a deadman switch

like literally "Pay for my abortion conservatives or you'll pay welfare forever!"

yeah

that is one thing I will give them

My main issue with developed countries is that we have inverted what the birth rate for each group should be

The higher your IQ/work ethic the less likely you are to have children.

Doctors have a very low birth-rate when married

Same for most highly educated well paying jobs.

yep

we have very anti-natalist policies

I will give it to Israel, they have very pro-natalist policies

Well then you also have the female ideal being compeletely inverted

No one cares if a house wife has well constructed philosophical ideals or is educated

It's literally a market failure to educate women that will in any shape or form stay home to take care of kids

and if you send your kids to daycare they are mentally fucked

the biggest thing is all this working mom stuff

dual incomes and "women empowerment" have been a way for us to ignore that we are making less

Well the worst part is if you bring foreign women here america will just corrupt them

Sure maybe even your foreign wife won't get brainwashed by her new american friends into hating men but

your kids will

depends on where you are

if you live in a relatively conservative, rural, pro-family area

you're good for one or two more generations

Yeah but then rural existence just invariably fucking sucks

very few job opportunities

yeah

Thats why I continue to invest in land and being a landlord tbh

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You can't have democracy and diversity

these primaries are fucked

I don't know why you can't have democracy and diversity.

Different demographics have different interests. Just because demographics support interests different from yours doesn't mean democracy doesn't work. That's just fucking braindead.

Blacks are poorer, they want Democrats to support public programs that help them.

Not hard to grasp.

Democrats dont support programs that help blacks

I agree, subjective as that is.

The Great Society hurt blacks more than it helped them.

I'm pretty sure democrats have been fucking black people over for a while

Democrat controlled regions have lower standard of livings than republican-controlled black regions

intentionally and unintentionally

Yeah, but none of these are arguments against diversity in a democracy.

Its intentional for the most part @Deleted User

They just do the bare min to get their vote

what define a 'democracy'

The shameless and toxic pandering to minorities isn't a good thing. Wouldn't not happen if an authoritarian government wanted to secure a demographic vote. FDR made a deal with Southern Democrats not to include blacks in many New Deal programs to get their support.

because in the US we only democratically elect people

FDR definitely led an authoritarian government.

America is a democracy. A republic is still a democracy.

America is not a democracy lmao

that's not what I asked

Its a constitutional republic

Well we're talking about America, so I'm pointing to American democracy.

We democratically elect people

<:HyperLmao:459545665517780993> >america is a democracy

that's it

And yes America absolutely is a democracy. Why is it not a democracy? Representative democracy makes a republic a republic. Did you ever stop for more than two seconds and wonder why it's called representative "democracy"?

Or did that just slip your mind?

what define a 'democracy'

''a democracy''

Rule by the people, etymologically speaking.

Demos, kratos.

america is ruled by [all] the people because we elect representatives?

Legally speaking America is a democracy even if it's been so heavily bureaucratized since FDR that the people increasingly have less power over the affairs of the state.

It doesn't suddenly stop being a democracy as soon as government isn't as small and direct as you want it to be. Sorry, that's not how the world works.

We still elect people, federally and locally.

Those people decide domestic and foreign policy.

''It doesn't suddenly stop being a democracy as soon as government isn't as small and direct as you want it to be. Sorry, that's not how the world works.'' I never implied that

When they don't do what we want as voters we don't reelect them.

Sounds like democracy to me.

Anon seems to have run off after claiming that America isn't a democracy for the 2946th time and being told why he's wrong by me on this specific point for the 2946th time.

the only say we have in their decisions is getting them elected. we can't guarantee that they'll do what the majority wants

Yes, but that doesn't make it not a democracy. A republic is a democracy.

we have a say in who gets in power, depending on the position, that's about it

it's not rule by the people

Don't want to rely on words too much here but America is legally a representative *democracy.* We call a system of government where people elect representatives a democracy because they vote, thereby influencing the public affairs (res public, public affair).

You're disagreeing with established definitions for God knows why.

But you're plain and simply wrong.

I think democracy is too broad

there's direct and rep, and god knows how many other forms

It's meant to be broad, that's why democracy can be representative or direct. Direct democracy is not the only type of democracy.

why are you so hostile <:HyperLmao:459545665517780993>

I didn't call you stupid, I just explained why you were wrong and then told you you were wrong.

''I didn't call you stupid'' whomst the fuck said you did

You called me hostile. I think I start being hostile when I start insulting you.

But I haven't insulted you.

If you're more sensitive than I am then that's none of my business.

you don't suddenly stop being hostile when the word isn't a simple and direct as you want it to be. Sorry, that's not how language works.

You successfully derailed the conversation. Next time I will avoid pointing out when you're wrong so I don't hurt your feelings.

I derailed the convo by asking why you were so hostile and giving you a dose of your own medicine

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Seems like you just don't want to be nice and would rather be vindictive and belligerent.

I don't know about you but I'm not in the mood to be a meanie.

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I wasn't the one being condescending

I was just curious as to why you were being so hostile

Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye. I will forgive you as Christ would forgive you.

You don't have to be vindictive and rude.

You don't have to be hostile and condescending <:HyperLmao:459545665517780993>

I'm not. But what I have done is given up trying to get you to see why you're being unreasonable and sensitive.

Live through Christ. And no, it isn't condescending to want to live as Christ lived.

I'm not being unreasonable or sensitive

I wasn't offended, I was just wondering why you were being hostile

I apologize if you thought I was being hostile.

I don't know about you but I have more valuable things to do with my time than repeatedly apologize to someone who just wants to be offended.

Adios partner. 🤠

> apologizes for being hostile
> proceeds to be hostile

alrighty, bye

I dont see how zexy is being offensive

I think you're just overly offended @Deleted User

''I wasn't offended, I was just wondering why you were being hostile''

https://i.imgur.com/1up9iLh.png

This is hosility.

hostility fugg xd

Christianity ❤

Catholicism. ❤

Catholicism is a cult

Why?

Catholicism isn't any more a cult than most other religions.

I don't know. Lived around Catholics all my life and never seen any worship of Saints, Mary, or the Pope to the point of being cultish.

The Pope is only infallibile in spiritual matters, Saints are model people to live by, and Mary worship is definitely most common in Mexican folk Catholicism rather than mainstream Catholicism.

God gives us bad popes and good popes. We are not forced as Catholics to see everything Pope Francis does as divine and right.

If we did we would be a cult. But we don't.

Papal infallibility was only affirmed in the 1870's if I recall correctly, as secular influence declined in Europe.

Catholics V2's are the cultists

Vatican II is fucking egregious.

I can't remember who said it but someone compared it to a parent letting their kid do drugs to seem cool and fit in with their kids.

I felt that was a really good analogy.

The liturgy is part of what makes the Church great.

Personally I feel that masses should be held in the more original Koine Greek rather than Latin.

But Greek is kind of disgusting.

OR YOU KNOW

ENGLISH.

Why?

Most internationally understood lanuage

Latin is the traditional liturgical language.

I mean strictly speaking word count the mass isn't huge.

'Different demographics have different interests. Just because demographics support interests different from yours doesn't mean democracy doesn't work. That's just fucking braindead.' @εïз irma εïз

You just explained why they can't co-exist

I like catholics for the most part, except for the very common trait of egosim among catholics and catholic bodies

also, osentatiousotter is a troll

I've seen him around everywhere, he used to be in Horse's server before David Sherratt got it banned

I just thought he was an idiot.

No, he's a troll, just me dude

I've seen him get pissed over things a lot like he was genuinely upset.

Must be a good play actor.

Sometimes he is being serious, but it's 50/50 and hard to separate between the two.

I've been in two many servers with him to know

*too many

Back on topic, demographics exist beyond race.

It's not socially stable to have many races coexisting but demographics will exist with different interests with or without race.

You can't draw the line at race and blame it for failings of democracy.

Abhkazia is Georgian.

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Stalin was a net positive in the world.

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He was partial to wine.

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ok

I like to drink a little bit of moscato every day.

Nah, you dont have to add them, but they would be nice

White wine has health benefits just like red wine.

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I think Spanish wines are the worst.

Rioja wines are bitter like a riesling but somehow disgusting.

Rioja and prosecco are probably the same level of disgusting.

Greeks thought people who didn't water down their wine were barbarians.

And because intelligence was linked to speech through the concept of logos Lydian Anatolians who spoke pidgin Greek were considered dumb and called barbarians for saying "bar bar" in their speech.

Lydians probably would have supported Stalin.