and it should be a case by case,individual by individual basis

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Anyone who disagrees is free to challenge me

Well, let’s see if you have any takers.

Are you arguing in favor of adults having sex with children? @bimmler

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@Deleted User im saying it should be an individual by individual basis

If an 18 year old and 16-17 year old wanna bang idc

If a 15 and 16 year old wanna,idc

It's not the place of the state to meddle in people's sex lives

What about a 40 yr old and a 3 yr old?

No

That 40 year old needs to be burnt on a cross

all parties aren't able to consent and lacks the knowledge,capacity etc. To understand any of it

They're unable to cosent at all

It's just rape in that case

Kk I sent your request to MOP. We’ve done voice chat debates, you up for that?

@bimmler

Yeah

what about a 20something and a 16 year old

or a 90 something and a 75 year old

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@Ordo_Ab_Chao i don't care about either

The latter is just gross to think about

Hello

Hello

>furry

Its a joke

who even invented furry porn

the devil

lmfao

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Desensitization is the best thing that happened to the younger generations of today.

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@everyone there has been a debate requested about the age of consent, this debate will start in 30 minutes

Why that topic lol

**HAVE NO AGE OF CONSENT**

get the fuck out

lemme tear up some 5 year old booty

it should be 18 btw

ahhhhh

lemme clap those 12 month old cheeks

giuli vs chew flashbacks

smh

Pedophilia needs to be objectively defined

tbh with the uk where i live its 16 tbh everyone here tho already lost their virginity at 13

To edgy for me

im not even making that up

half my fucking school lost their virginity at 13

13

Jesus

obviously the people who arent autistic

yeah but keep in mind

they are 13 and the other person they fucked where probably 13

British people are retarded

ahem

thank you

twat

at least we aint obese, ish

Ish

ish

nah but ill admit

that could be just the city i live in

fuck im gone for 2 min and the chat went off

i live in liverpool, the most socialist city out of the entire uk

thats what i shows at least

there are a fuck tonne of these emo ass idk sadboy type faggots

so thats mainly the people who are thots

or retarded autismo gays who interchange beds like musical chairs

>when you love lolis so much you pass it as law

not lying we also have a huge amount of gays

why what country is that?

@warriorman8

Gas the pedos

Ye

indeed we do need to gas the pedos

i mean personally 16 isnt that bad

It was a joke that it may happen

because in the uk we break up from school at 16

and usually people know their wits about shit

its like a normal code of conduct like a 30 year old doesnt fuck a 16 year old

majority of ppl will be like calling the guy a nonce

but i feel it makes sense seen as even though yes today is a fucked up society a lot of ppl will lose their virginity over their school break up

This had better be some gay ass joke @ken

and most commonly if its not at the aformentioned 13 age which is only for slags its at 16, where massive parties happen for schools break up, and the huge ass time thats given

its about 5 to 6 months off so imagine how much shit they get up to

it was requested to me @Deleted User i dont agree

btw great breed of god

gay who requested

dog

you will find out later when the debate starts

doesnt america have different age of consent laws per state?

fucking dumb that should just have one

No, this is gay as fuck I refuse

Why is there an age of consent debate?

Tell me who requested @ken so I know before I leave

It better be about making it higher if it is

Also, some states have no age of consent I think

@Mahojo its about getting rid of it

I think like 13 or something ridiculous

Who's arguing for this?

@Deleted User it was someone with a unicorn profile picture thats all im saying

Oh

This is a bad topic.

i dont agree but it was asked

i think that if people want a debate then they should be able to debate

wus poppin

12 month on cheeks

?

there is a debate in a bit about the age of consent

Age of consent should be 25

change my mind

FUCKING THATS TO HIGH

change

my

mind

MUST BE AS HIGH AS YOU

FUCK

why 25

That's when you are fully mature

not everyone

if they aren't they broken and shouldn't reproduce

no i mean some people are earlier

and at that point i also believe that the drinking age should be 18

sucks for them

at 18 your a legal adult

Yeah that's a mistake

how

18 years olds are barely capable of taking care of them selves

maybe the new generation, if it was a problem before dont you think it would have changed

no

why not

life spans were shorter

and expectations were way different

In the 1500s it was like 12 n shit

But back then people lived to 20

😂

pretty much

exactly

it changed

In ye olden times young men were married at 15

if it was a problem then change it again

and had jobs

yes

we should

move it up

its not a problem yet

At 8 people had jobs in the mines

and in the army as little drummer boys

people that cant do shit for themselves either
1) cant do it bc of a physical / mental problem they have
2) the new generation

The age of consent I believe should begin at 14, HOWEVER there should be levels in it. 14 year olds can date up 16, 16 to 18, 18 to 26, then it is normal.

It should be abolished entirely and be a personal thing judged on an individual basis

@Obungus if the age of consent should be 25 then what happens when people get married at 21 or 22 then do they need to wait

yep

why

or a death squad gets them

WHAT

and they get circumcised

for a second time if needed

i have a feeling this went from serious to a fucken meme

nah if they're married they can boink

Time to debate in vc?

so why not if not married

That's bad

Or did i mess up the times?

@ken

nope your right

@everyone debate for age of consent starts now

where

It needs to be 25

👽

Everyone can only sex people born same day and same year

Problem solve

the debate is in round table

@ken where the debate be

Round table

14-17, 18-28, 28-50

@warriorman8 round table voice chat

@ken where the debate be

the age of consent should be 20

then join the debate

Ban the gay furry

dead

aye

Doberman

Age of consent

16 and up

That's the lowest I can do tho

18

Abolish age of consent, outlaw all sex outside of marriage.

Marriage requires fathers' approval. No divorce outside of criminal convictions (abuse, adultery)

Wow, it's almost as if living a moral life gets rid of so many of society's problems!

I agree

well I don't

that'd be a good solution but I love freedom too much and think the gov. shouldn't be involved in marriage

muh freedom

Can anyone give a reason why freedom is inherently good?

serious question btw

it isnt

its inhereantly great

but why

I need reasons, Kenny.

i dont see how this is serious

Just justify freedom being inherently good

If it is inherently good then it can be justified in some way

define 'inherently'

in a permanent, essential, or characteristic way.

If a person could be inherently grumpy freedom could be inherently good

bc as in america we can do things that other places dont

Why is that good though

inherently?

bc were never going to be like other places unless they have as much freedom

@Obungus freedom is the inherent state of humanity

One values freedom if they value themselves

Is it?

One could argue that hierarchy and subjugation are too

The state isnt natural,it's founder and main ideologue isn't found in your cerebellum

It's found in laws and codes

Formulated,propogated and copied by others

It's completely unnatural

Tell me, @Obungus , are you a man of god?

So is what is natural what is good?

That statement makes no sense

Grammatically

Does something being natural make it good?

you googled the definition of inherently

lol

yeah

I don't use fake and gay definitions

I mean that's fine I would just prefer if you defined it in your own words

If something is found in nature it must've had predecessors,it must've overcame challenges and trials and what is left is th refined version of what was

That's stupid

not what you said bim

Suvival of the fittest

Ok

But how does that make it morally good?

Survival of the best

Morals are subjective as they are nothing more than codes of conduct

So you have no objective justification?

Codes of conduct formulated on the basis of personal taste,relgion,ideology etc.

For what?

For freedom being good

other than it is natural or is a result of natural trial and error

It's good because it is the only political value which doesn't violate rights

Negative rights*

So what makes the violation of rights wrong?

The fact that the infringement of rights is illegitimate,unethical,immoral and is based in illogical behaviour

Says who